Robin Roberts, Jason Collins,Derrick Gordon, Michael Sam dating white gays why?

[umjreon88]

OR, famous white gays dating POCs!?!?!?

 

[rareboy]

So out of the six figures you named, four are currently fucking white guys.

I imagine that the four white guys are dating the four black guys for the same reason that the four black guys are dating the four white guys.

 

[dpnice]

I do find it strange that you would assume that a conscious choice to date white men has been made. Surely their emotions and sexual desires have played a much greater part in their choice of partner than the need to reflect a certain image to the general public.

As someone said, there are fewer "out" black celebrities and it may well be that with a reduced pool to choose from that they didn't find someone who suited them.

I think it is awesome that celebrities do have the courage to "come out" whether they are black or white. I would also assume that the fact of a black celebrity revealing his homosexuality has a much greater influence on other black gays than us millions of whites doing the same.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

The basket case isn't him.

 

[ElmosToe]

Why not?

All I did was read the title of this thread and that is the answer.

The fact that these few celebrities have come out is a miracle in itself and now it's not good enough because they are dating white people?
Maybe they are with their partners because they genuinely love them and happen to be white.

The premise of the title alone hints that they are dating said white people as a publicity stunt or something, that they are just putting on a show to make gay athletes and celebrities more accepted by whom...? white people? society? Or maybe it's an accusation that these people hate their own race and want to be white.

Here's a question, who the fuck cares..?

 

[IamNoah]

I think, for me personally, black homophobia has had a much smaller impact psychologically, emotionally, etc than Homosexual male sexual racism has (Oh who is the fairest of them all, certainly not anyone whose last name is Wong or whose first name is LeBron). But, people fall in love where they fall in love. I think it's a bit rude to try to dissect these individuals lives. If you'd like a great big race thread maybe you could go the direct route.

(Also I must say that my husband is white and every penis I've ever touched, other than my own, has been attached to a white guy.)

Edited, because the original post only had a portion of my thought.

 

[eastofeden]

At the Stormfront website and other racist sites you will hear some white people asking the same question...why some white people don't date other white people and how they are insulting their race if they don't....

Is this any different? If so...why?

Personally...I don't think it is any different.

 

[IamNoah]

And when I say my husband is white, I mean WHITE like the color of milk with splashes of pink or even angry red here or there and eyes the color of the bluest water, my Logan, my beloved Logan. And lips like rosebuds fallen down into the pale beauty of his face.

And he makes me feel like God when I'm fucking him or being fucked by him. This I think is the surest explanation for why any two humans are together. When you kiss them or make love to them do you feel like God--Almighty, Powerful, Capable of doing anything. Plus he can swallow my *whole* dick and not come up for air until I'm done (and to be honest and a little vulgar I am not a small man).

This last part I do not think relates to the Lad's pallor. See that's the rub the answer is apt to be in the individual descriptors not the the incidentals of race.

Would you like more tea or have you had sufficient?

What a lovely brooch Maude was wearing this morning.

Oh look, a bunny.

 

[rareboy]

I would also add one further thought.

It should be regarded as a huge....and I mean HUGE advance in any social structure that people can freely and openly fall in love outside their own race and associate in public. It isn't that long ago that even in the US....this was not the case.

The fact that a whole bunch of black celebrity homos are now able to be in public with their bf's is totally wonderful in my books.

 

[dachsieboy2000]

I am as white as the driven snow, but I have loved and lusted over several ethnicities. Your point in asking this question is..?

 

[LuckysRevenge]

I would also add one further thought.

It should be regarded as a huge....and I mean HUGE advance in any social structure that people can freely and openly fall in love outside their own race and associate in public. It isn't that long ago that even in the US....this was not the case.

The fact that a whole bunch of black celebrity homos are now able to be in public with their bf's is totally wonderful in my books.

Because its not that simple. There's a clear issue in the US, especially in the community, of seeing people of color as lesser.

I have no problem with these individuals but it still makes me cringe because of their likely preference for whites and rejection of blacks.

It sucks knowing that many guys out there would never even consider me desirable simply because of the color of my skin. It hurts more when those individuals are black men who understand that same feeling.

 

[IamNoah]

I think gay men are problematic enough on the subject of "race" to make a conversation potentially useful on "race" and "gayness." Just not this one. It's interesting to note that based on completely random chance/population size and number of generations in the US one would expect black white pairings to be much more common among both gay and straight people than they are/have been. (Though any glance at "African" American DNA reveals that black folk are a mixed race Northern European/sub-Saharan African "isolate" thanks to the constant reality of interracial fucking even during the centuries when marriage was illegal.)

 

[IamNoah]

Because its not that simple. There's a clear issue in the US, especially in the community, of seeing people of color as lesser.

I have no problem with these individuals but it still makes me cringe because of their likely preference for whites and rejection of blacks.

Don't assume they have a preference for "whites." I have never been with a guy who was not "white," but that does not mean at all that I do not have a major boner for guys from every single ethnic group--though I am more rarely attracted to members of some groups than others.

 

[dpnice]

Because its not that simple. There's a clear issue in the US, especially in the community, of seeing people of color as lesser.

I have no problem with these individuals but it still makes me cringe because of their likely preference for whites and rejection of blacks.

I find it strange that you use the word "cringe" as if there was some conscious plan in the fact that they have white boyfriends.

Plus the final phrase, isn't it rather an assumption on your part, unless you are related in someway to all of them that you are assured that this is a fact and that they wouldn't hook up with a black guy because he was black.

I totally understand that two black celebrities together would have a great impact on gay references for black guys but surely we don't have the right to choose partners for others nor to assume we know the reasons for their choices.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

I find it strange that you use the word "cringe" as if there was some conscious plan in the fact that they have white boyfriends.

Plus the final phrase, isn't it rather an assumption on your part, unless you are related in someway to all of them that you are assured that this is a fact and that they wouldn't hook up with a black guy because he was black.

I totally understand that two black celebrities together would have a great impact on gay references for black guys but surely we don't have the right to choose partners for others nor to assume we know the reasons for their choices.

You're right. I said likely and honestly,I say likely because I see it all the time. Literally I see it every day to the point where I'm almost right every time I guess a black guy's preference for white men.

And that's why I cringe because it often is a conscious decision whether they feel they can help it or not. It reminds me of my lesser status as a gay black male.

So these guys may have fucked a million black men. Nonetheless the image reminds me of a pattern that is too often true. It's not the fault of these celebrities and they shouldn't care. But it's still there.

 

[dpnice]

Isn't it possible though that black gays choose white boyfriends not because they are socially better but just because they are different?

As a white guy I can honestly say that when having sex with black guys the difference in skin colour was incredibly sexually evocative.

 

[xbuzzerx]

So out of the six figures you named, four are currently fucking white guys.

And, if you were to derive some kind of science from these numbers as the OP is apparently doing, then gay black men still show a preference for other black men, since black Americans are 13.6% of the U.S. population and 33% of the sample size picked another black partner out of a dating pool of other gay men that is 86.4% non-black. (Probably higher than that if you only count publicly out gay men as being part of the gay dating pool.)

So OP I don't get what you're saying-- are nonwhites only supposed to ever socialize with their own kind? Or do you operate under a presumption that all minorities interact with 100% their own race?

 

[IamNoah]

Lucky,

I think every gay man of color--with the exception of a handful of super European featured Latino guys--knows what you mean. But I still think it's not fair to assume that every guy who is dating a white guy is doing so as some kind of judgment on black folk. Honestly, when I was single I just had to take what I could get, lol, whoever came on to me or responded to my strange and clumsy advances. I've been known to snort when I laugh.

Also, in my experience the number of guys who were/are willing to date/fuck me was way higher than all those "No Blacks. No Asians. I'm not racist." profiles made me think--admittedly lots of those guys were yanking down my zipper while telling me how ugly most other members of "my ethnic group" are, but really, no one's perfect...

This is my last response here, probs. I've made too many. I also apologize for any typos. My "d" key is hardly working.

Nah. I'll be back.

Is there something *wrong* with preferring white guys? (Once again I do not, but I'm curious.)

 

[LuckysRevenge]

Lucky,

I think every gay man of color--with the exception of a handful of super European featured Latino guys--knows what you mean. But I still think it's not fair to assume that every guy who is dating a white guy is doing so as some kind of judgment on black folk. Honestly, when I was single I just had to take what I could get, lol, whoever came on to me or responded to my strange and clumsy advances. I've been known to snort when I laugh.

Also, in my experience the number of guys who were/are willing to date/fuck me was way higher than all those "No Blacks. No Asians. I'm not racist." profiles made me think--admittedly lots of those guys were yanking down my zipper while telling me how ugly most other members of "my ethnic group" are, but really, no one's perfect...

This is my last response here, probs. I've made too many. I also apologize for any typos. My "d" key is hardly working.

Nah. I'll be back.

Is there something *wrong* with preferring white guys? (Once again I do not, but I'm curious.)

Nothing wrong with it. I think there's something wrong with society that makes people believe that one race is inherently more attractive than the rest though.