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Rolf Harris; do you care?

pat grimshaw said:
Do you have an "impression"? Do you have a "feeling"?

I suggest you re-read my words in this thread and look at the documentary evidence I have presented in this thread.

My gripe is with the small amount of documentary evidence presented in the trial and the very LARGE amount of undocumented impressions and unquantifiable memories given by invisible 'persons unnamed'.

I get annoyed at this cloak of secrecy.
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I think the cloak of secrecy might have to do with what news papers are/are not allowed to report on - if they gave the time and dates everything happened it might become obvious to identify the victims ect. I am not certain on that, but the press wont be allowed to say everything. I mean in the case of his daughters friend, they have exact dates for when it happened as it occurred on a holiday.

But what is documented evidence in these type of cases? Do you want to watch a film of him groping young girls? It just seems you want to find an excuse to let him off - or at the least that is how it's coming across.

Anonymity for the victims of rape is massively important and I can't believe you think it would be better to have them be named in front on the world - for what purpose? Scare them from coming forward?
 
That Vanessa Feltz and Linda Nolan need to hop back on their broomsticks get their cauldrons out and find another way to stay relevant.
 
pat grimshaw said:
.....................My gripe is with the small amount of documentary evidence presented in the trial and the very LARGE amount of undocumented impressions and unquantifiable memories given by invisible 'persons unnamed'.

I get annoyed at this cloak of secrecy. ................................
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Okay for my own peace of mind I will assume that you think he should have been prosecuted. Though you have not actually confirmed that in black and white.
 
dpnice said:
Okay for my own peace of mind I will assume that you think he should have been prosecuted. Though you have not actually confirmed that in black and white.
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I think he does not think he should have been convicted though.
 
^1st world no got a think it alls a dun ins back gorund fa um by a many lands great folk of nice ans propa ans stuff^
*mors tea?*
gon pee tanks

anyway

UN got a how many membas?

-HAAAAAAAAAAAAA_

SSH"

thankyou

Internt 2 gon figa out wot day is one day
_OOOH MA GOSHYS_
 
He has the arrogance and complete lack of apology to imply that he has nothing to be ashamed of apart from cheating on his wife.
I remember Jonathon King saying long and loud that he was not guilty of abusing 14 yr olds despite the overwhelming evidence
 
I didn't follow the trial or even know who this person was. Certainly the passage of time interferes with the function of any court, and dims the eyes of the court in considering whether something is a fact. But I wonder if credible allegations were made back in the day, and sat, unchanged all these years, in a society that coped poorly with celebrity and sexuality. If society has finally opened its eyes to the idea that celebrity does not insulate someone from accountability, and sweeping sexual crimes under the carpet isn't "the best for all concerned" then certainly I'm glad the charges would have proceeded on the basis of what might have been reported so many years ago.

pat grimshaw said:
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If anything good has come of this, it's that we now know Russell Brand's social commentary to be as coherent and insightful as his economic commentary. A generation ago his words would have appeared on the printed page and I could have put them to good use. But broadcasting his video pontifications from the bottom of the birdcage toward the arse of my parrot hardly seems to accomplish anything.
 
bankside said:
I didn't follow the trial or even know who this person was. Certainly the passage of time interferes with the function of any court, and dims the eyes of the court in considering whether something is a fact. But I wonder if credible allegations were made back in the day, and sat, unchanged all these years, in a society that coped poorly with celebrity and sexuality. If society has finally opened its eyes to the idea that celebrity does not insulate someone from accountability, and sweeping sexual crimes under the carpet isn't "the best for all concerned" then certainly I'm glad the charges would have proceeded on the basis of what might have been reported so many years ago.
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roman empire just a yesterday ans Cleopatra just got nippulls a nice glazed
anyway

long great public insulate ta go burb out stuff on itnerent 2 wot awsum

thankyou

Angelina Jolie wanan tak big cane next time ans hit it home ta da worlds dickydoos
 
JohnnyAnger said:
...I don't understand your links by the way? Some old friends of his saying they are sad? What does that have to do with your opinion?
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I was having a quiet chuckle at Cilla Black not knowing what to say about this tawdry case and remembering how often she complained that her fans had deserted her because she had the temerity of betraying her working class roots by having that nose job.

And I was imagining that Sacha Wass and her femi-nazi brigade would be attacking the diminutive Mr Corbett for being condescending by calling the interviewer 'darling'.
 
bankside said:
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If anything good has come of this, it's that we now know Russell Brand's social commentary to be as coherent and insightful as his economic commentary. A generation ago his words would have appeared on the printed page and I could have put them to good use. But broadcasting his video pontifications from the bottom of the birdcage toward the arse of my parrot hardly seems to accomplish anything.
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Is your first sentence sarcasm?

I think there's a mega-difference between the printed word and the spoken word. Most commentary on current TV docos seem acceptable when they accompany good visuals on the TV screen. But they turn to rubbish when you see them transcribed to the page.
 
print ors a spokes alls uselees wen 1st world fa eva ans eva suckin shit up ears ans spit it out ons each oda so no gotta miss teys slippas

thankyou
 
bankside said:
I didn't follow the trial or even know who this person was. ...
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I notice how you use the past tense. :lol: He "was" an "entertainer" of sorts but not to my taste.

He had a modicum of talent in drawing and in writing ditties. He had more talent than Jimmy Fallon, Jonah Hill Feldstein, Ellen de generes, and all the other teens who appear in JUB's Male Celebrity forum, Chris Brown, Eminem and all the other North American bilge that the mega-powerful American Entertainment industry pushes onto the rest of the world. :mad:

I like what you say here—

bankside said:
... Certainly the passage of time interferes with the function of any court, and dims the eyes of the court in considering whether something is a fact. But I wonder if credible allegations were made back in the day, and sat, unchanged all these years, in a society that coped poorly with celebrity and sexuality…..
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You mention the passage of time. I mentioned it earlier in post #102 when I mentioned that the English monarch takes a long-term view of the passage of time and doesn't engage in the current fads of the fickle commoners and their blind love in TV celebrities.

Today's newspaper has a District Court Judge Garry Neilson also referring to the passage of time—

just as gay sex was socially unacceptable and criminal in the 1950s and 1960s but is now widely accepted, “a jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now ‘available’, not having sexual partner”.

He also said the “only reason” that incest is still a crime is because of the high risk of genetic abnormalities in children born from consanguineous relationships “but even that falls away to an extent [because] there is such ease of contraception and readily access to abortion”.


:?
 
blink"

mars colony here a lifejacket if ya run out a gas
& ooh tinkyou&

thankyou

_so planet still round ten?_
maybe not yet fa lot 1st world
 
pat grimshaw said:
I was having a quiet chuckle at Cilla Black not knowing what to say about this tawdry case and remembering how often she complained that her fans had deserted her because she had the temerity of betraying her working class roots by having that nose job.

And I was imagining that Sacha Wass and her femi-nazi brigade would be attacking the diminutive Mr Corbett for being condescending by calling the interviewer 'darling'.
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Just put JohhnyAnger on ignore he will only attack your posts and challenge them if you don't, you will find your time here much more enjoyable if you don't engage In his baiting that's all he ever does.
 
mikemizanin729 said:
Just put JohhnyAnger on ignore he will only attack your posts and challenge them if you don't, you will find your time here much more enjoyable if you don't engage In his baiting that's all he ever does.
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I was not attacking him, he appeared to be wanting to let him off. When I asked him on it, he posted links to Cilla Black. I only asked him again what his position was. I don't really care either way, I just wanted him to be a bit clearer on the topic.

I doubt Pat will feel I was going out of my way to attack him maliciously...
 
mikemizanin729 said:
…ignore..
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:-) Mike, Johhny is just behaving like I might have ten years ago. Besides I usually wait a while before putting someone on ignore; human beings are moody and can be terse, serious, ironical and whimsical in turn so I wait for 6 months or so before putting those JUB mono-maniacal stalkers on ignore.

I do notice even the more sensible, regular JUBbers do get pleasure in criticizing anyone who's different. Telstra and Jayqueer present alternative viewpoints and SO MANY JUBbers would queue up to criticise them which made them very popular posters.

I used to be stalked by a JUBber who called himself JUB's "Policeman". :eek: (*S*) He wants everyone to conform to his ideas. :##: I call that fascism.
 
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