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Roy Moore

Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in Alabama, was banned from a mall in the early 1980s after he repeatedly attempted to pick up teenage girls, former mall employees and local police told The New Yorker.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-alabama-mall-banned-roy-moore-in-the-80s-for-pursuing-teens

And I can believe this of him.

There has always been something totally creepy about this guy. The initial accusations provoked it and now the truth will out. Of course Alabama has a low age of consent for sexual contact, and someone older than 19 fucking anyone over 12 years of age is only a misdemeanour, but enticing them into your home for sex was a federal offense.

Give me any religious person who is vocal about what other people do in the sheets and I guarantee you are going to find some nasty stuff in their history.
 
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I think this is an excellent time to see these people for exactly who and what they are..and always have been...

Watching the reactions from his fans and knowing how they reacted to everything else with their pious righteous bullshit and using God as a weapon of choice....I hope other people are paying attention.

The real story here are the fans....these are the same people who spend alot of time and energy condemning LGBT people.....take a good look at them...
 
Benvolio said:
No one is defending pedophilia, but the statute of militating has no doubt run on this after 30 years or whatever. There is a good reason for statutes of limitations. After all these years it is almost impossible to determine the truth with confidence. Memories fade, witnesses die, documents disappear. The defendant is unlikely to remember an alibi or other defensive facts. What were you doing on the date this act is supposed to have occurred? His witnesses may be dead or unable to remember. If someone wants to make such a claim it should be made, in most states, soon after the child reaches majority or never. Since there could be no criminal or civil suit, the same considerations should preclude considering him guilty.
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On that date I was waiting to be born into a world where tidal waves of women can admit that they were violated and men can admit that they were victims of a priest. I am a lucky man.
 
The reaction has been swift:

Today over 50 Christian ministers released a letter endorsing Roy Moore, the GOP nominee in the December special election for U.S. Senate in Alabama. Their endorsement comes days after Moore was accused by multiple women of sexually assaulting them when teens. The clergy wrote:

We are ready to join the fight and send a bold message to Washington: dishonesty, fear of man, and immorality are an affront to our convictions and our Savior and we won’t put up with it any longer. We urge you to join us at the polls to cast your vote for Roy Moore.​

I thought that child abuse was an affront to Christian convictions and our Savior. Jesus said at a time when children were not valued that they should be. It astounds many that any Christian would defend Moore. To do so, you have to replace Bible with GOP platform.
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You can read the reactions here: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...re-show-crisis-in_us_5a0a5590e4b0065239218392

Here's the reposted letter from Roy's website: https://www.roymoore.org/In-the-News/1/Pastor's-Letter
 
eastofeden said:
I think this is an excellent time to see these people for exactly who and what they are..and always have been...

Watching the reactions from his fans and knowing how they reacted to everything else with their pious righteous bullshit and using God as a weapon of choice....I hope other people are paying attention.

The real story here are the fans....these are the same people who spend alot of time and energy condemning LGBT people.....take a good look at them...
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Ironically, this speaks to the moral bankruptcy of the Christian Right. Who has ever threatened their right to worship and live as they choose? NO ONE. Do I give a flying fuck what they do in the privacy of their own cults, or congregations as they euphemistically refer to them? Do I care about their sex lives, or absence thereof? Fuck no! They have the right and freedom to be and believe whatever they fucking choose. Why, oh why, then to these bigots care what we do or don't do? Morally bankrupt, because they will ignore what is right, decent and legal to promote an excuse for a man who will promote their agenda in Congress. Gay agenda: I want to live and love how and whom I choose. Christian Right Agenda: I want to kill all the fags, and jews and muslims and any fucking body who doesn't accept the dogma that feeds my soul. Do you know Jesus? Never met him. However, from what I understand from a misspent youth in catechism, Jesus was about love and acceptance. These people speak about the Good News, but cling to the Old Testament....the Torah? Whoa. To Roy: Some have said you can't convict him of a crime. These supposed events took place too long ago. As if that is a justification for a grown man seeking out teenage girls for sex? Is the hate and bigotry of the Right so overwhelming as to ignore what is before us? Are we devoid of the milk of human kindness such that we accept that which is morally unacceptable? Do we need a trial? Do we need indictments? Here is someone who so wants to insert his supposed Christian precepts into the legal and political domain, but chases teenage girls for sex, because they can't say "no"....and if they do, who will believe them? He was the Ass't DA? WTF, people? Go to church, love Jesus, obey your Lord God....and vote for Roy Moore. If the Christian Right can do this, then how can they be worthy of the redemption they seek? They are no better than the Catholic Church when it comes to rationalizing abuse of power and the sexual abuse of the vulnerable whom they are sworn to protect.
 
cocksucker4use said:
They are no better than the Catholic Church when it comes to rationalizing abuse of power and the sexual abuse of the vulnerable whom they are sworn to protect.
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They're worse, and more hypocritical, than the Catholic Church...which is a close second.

For example, the Catholic Church isn't saying that gay people should be KILLED, but some powerful Republicans are - they're saying that anybody should have the right to deny any and all services (even including emergency health care, etc.) from LGBT people, just because it offends them morally.

Think those "Freedom of Religion" laws that some states (ALWAYS Republican) are trying to pass, giving absolute and unlimited right to discriminate - and these laws are all about gay people. It's the sole reason-to-be for these laws. (Has any state passed any of these laws entirely?)

Uh, I think letting gay people DIE from lack of care - because maybe even somebody who is atheist makes the decisions at that hospital and he/she happens to hate these people. (Of course, NO religious test will ever be applied to these claims, so an atheist can claim "religion" and entirely get away with it.) Or, it could be Jews, or immigrants, or homeless.

Or you.

As much as I want to say Roy Moore fall (and HE is one who would, I think, truly rejoice in the death of LGBT people - perhaps the most horrific person in Congress in my lifetime if he gets there), I find myself questioning the timing of these allegations...BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, there is the thing that he was banned from the Gadsden Mall for lewd conduct toward girls, so there is at least some smoke, and maybe also a "fire" after all.
 
OMG...I just saw Mrs Moore for the first time....

She has my mother's crazy eyes and demeanor....

I can't tell you why.,..but I wouldn't trust her any more than I trust her husband.

If I were in the accuser's shoes..I would be more afraid of her than him at this point.
 
Me: Everything in politics can't be partisan, there's gotta be a line somewhere.

Alabama conservatives: Watch us vote for this child molester over a democrat.

Only in the bible belt can a politician say that giving blacks the right to vote has created problems for our country, and yet that's not even the worst thing he's said/done.
 
cityboy-stl said:
^ If Moore were a Democrat, Ben would not say the same thing and he would be calling for his head. Hypocrite.
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Talk about hypocrisy, Trump jumped all over Franken for one accusation and has been silent about the multiple accusations leveled at Moore. He should have commented on both or preferably remained silent regarding both. After all, there were many of the same accusations against him during the campaign, no doubt labeled fake news with insults thrown at the accusers. I wish he would just disappear.
 
Trump has zero credibility on most everything, but calling out Al Franken while going so easy on Moore(and especially ignoring his own nasty behavior towards women symbolized by that infamous video with Billy Bush) takes the cake. STFU, already, Donald!

The one thing though during this firestorm over men behaving badly is now even some Democrats , realizing that it's in the best interests of America that they are fully credible on this have come on board with that they should have been demanding the very same accountability out of Bill Clinton, who was hit by a number of credible abuse allegations, while he was in office. If we're going to get rightly upset over Donald Trump's "grab em by the pussy" inexcusable attitude towards women,(which have included some very outrageous behavior in his own right ) and believe Roy Moore accusers regarding their accounts of improper conduct... Juanita Brodderick and others should have been treated with the same seriousness and support, whatever the feelings about Clinton policy.For the most part, nothing ever came out that cast doubt on their stories... it was just promoted as the rantings of far right conservatives. It wasn't, and Clinton should have been held to account... Hillary's ire was set against these women, not her husband. Ambition, as always, trumps everything(pardon the pun) in the Clinton household. This is NOT to minimize the Moore or Trump allegations at all... Moore certainly appears to be a serial chaser of teen girls(and he WAS banned from at least one Alabama mall back in the 80's for his conduct towards them) and Trump is a pig, always was and always will be. But there should be NO sacred cows, even if on the issues they're on the more enlightened side more often than not. Because if that's the case, it always can be played up by the other side that the Dems are hypocrites involving women... there should NEVER even be a shadow of a doubt that conduct disrespectful or abusive towards women are absolutely inexcusable no matter who the accused is, what party or philosophy they espouse.

On the Senator Al Franken case, what was done was incredibly immature and disrespectful, but he did agree to a full ethics review on the matter and his apology to the woman involved was accepted. However, no one defended his conduct even in his party. I believe calls for his resignation are unwarranted as he has taken responsibility for and understands how his actions were hurtful and wrong... even if jesting, he went past the boundaries he should have respected and adhered to and he realizes that and has humility and regret. Something neither Trump or Moore have shown in the slightest, and instead push on ahead with politicizing and making partisan and hypocritical statements... and which Bill Clinton didn't ever show either.
 
fabulouslyghetto said:
You can't make this stuff up. Alabama governor BELIEVES the accusations and is STILL going to vote for him "because he's a republican."

https://latest.com/2017/11/al-gover...-but-ill-vote-for-him-because-hes-republican/
Then again this is Alabama, not known for producing the brightest minds in the country.
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Losing the Senate seat would mean at least two years of Congressional deadlock worse than it is now. Something that happened 30 years ago probably is not important enough to justify voting for deadlock.
 
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