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So, Im Bi But a Lot of Gay Culture Annoys the S#!^ Out of Me...
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I feel your pain.
But,to each there own. Your the str8 acting Bi-Guy. Your best partner would be a similarly thinking and acting Str8 Bi-Guy or Gay Guy.
Yes,they do exsist.Most a closet cases,but oh well. such is life.
I just sit back and watch the show. I think of it a reality TV run amuck in a bar. It can be very entertaining at times.
Besides,they are our brothers in this crazy world. Just like family,we love each other,just can't stand to be in the same room together.LOL
But,to each there own. Your the str8 acting Bi-Guy. Your best partner would be a similarly thinking and acting Str8 Bi-Guy or Gay Guy.Yes,they do exsist.Most a closet cases,but oh well. such is life.
I just sit back and watch the show. I think of it a reality TV run amuck in a bar. It can be very entertaining at times.
Besides,they are our brothers in this crazy world. Just like family,we love each other,just can't stand to be in the same room together.LOL
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The rainbow flag is a symbol of pride. Maybe you are Embarrassed to of your sexuality, but real men arent.
Drag queens have a right to be just as fab as they want to. They are entertainers, let them do their job!
And techno is enjoyed by just as many straights as gays, and btw, techno kicks ASS.
BUT, i can see where you are coming from. We all get angry with how the world can view gays. We are so diverse, more so they society wants to admit, and of course they will reveal and focus on the most shocking!!! look at politics, look at celebrities, its the same damn thing.
People say they want the world to be happy and loving place, but we would rather watch car accident or make a joke at someone we dont know.
Best not to worry about it. You can't change people, only behavior.
I think (and this thread shows it) that there are a lot of gay guys who don't like the gay culture either. Most of the gay people that I have met have been more normal but the few that fit the stereotypical culture looked like they were 'trying too hard' to fit the culture. I seriously doubt if some of these stereotypes are natural or whether some guys fit them just to belong.
It is frustrating that there is little exposure of normal gay/bi men. Someone already mentioned that they get questioned about if they are really gay and I get that too. The term 'Straight-acting' is slightly irksome, as it suggests that I'm pretending to be something that I'm not.
It breaks down to too much commercialism of our society. I'm a guy, but that doesn't mean I know jack shit about cars. I like guys, but that doesn't mean I am effeminate or like wearing dresses.
I do like some techno music and fail to see how it has any bearing on sexuality. I also think the rainbow flag is a little tacky but that doesn't mean I'm embarrassed about my sexuality.
It is frustrating that there is little exposure of normal gay/bi men. Someone already mentioned that they get questioned about if they are really gay and I get that too. The term 'Straight-acting' is slightly irksome, as it suggests that I'm pretending to be something that I'm not.
It breaks down to too much commercialism of our society. I'm a guy, but that doesn't mean I know jack shit about cars. I like guys, but that doesn't mean I am effeminate or like wearing dresses.
I do like some techno music and fail to see how it has any bearing on sexuality. I also think the rainbow flag is a little tacky but that doesn't mean I'm embarrassed about my sexuality.
thought i was alone. i hate the whole scene at my school, it's irritating to me. there are so few gay guys and all of the ones i do know are extremely obnoxious to me because i don't wear pink scarves and bronzer... i'm really not exaggerating here.
Its funny... I watch these discussions and cant help but wonder...
For one sec, just forget who we are attracted to...just for the sake of the argument...
Dont you think there are guys who like one sort of music over another? Dont you think there are guys who are attention seekers and guys who are reclusive? Dont you think there are guys who are fashion conscious and ones that aren't? Dont you think there are guys into cars and sports and ones that aren't?
None... and I mean none of these traits are exclusive to any one sexual preference. No more than having blond hair or red hair.
Seriously guys... not everything in life is based on who you want to sleep with. As one of the sexes guys will always be divided into subgroups and cultures... yes being gay or bi is one but its not the one that defines what we like or our personalities.
We all find our niches, we all find our groups that we feel most comfortable with - no matter who we sleep with - because its human nature. Nothing more nothing less.
The % of gay guys who are flamboyant and who represent the so called scene do so because thats there nature... not because they are gay. The reason JUB is constantly bombarded with threads about trying to meet the right guy is simply because the vast majority by a huge margin are normal every day people who go about our lives. We blend in, because we are part of society just like everyone else.
These issues exist everywhere... str8, bi, gay... the fact that you guys have all posted the same way proves that beyond doubt.
We just gotta remember sometimes that our problems are just a scaled down version of society in general. Theres not too many we can really say exclusively exist in our cultures if you think about it.
For one sec, just forget who we are attracted to...just for the sake of the argument...
Dont you think there are guys who like one sort of music over another? Dont you think there are guys who are attention seekers and guys who are reclusive? Dont you think there are guys who are fashion conscious and ones that aren't? Dont you think there are guys into cars and sports and ones that aren't?
None... and I mean none of these traits are exclusive to any one sexual preference. No more than having blond hair or red hair.
Seriously guys... not everything in life is based on who you want to sleep with. As one of the sexes guys will always be divided into subgroups and cultures... yes being gay or bi is one but its not the one that defines what we like or our personalities.
We all find our niches, we all find our groups that we feel most comfortable with - no matter who we sleep with - because its human nature. Nothing more nothing less.
The % of gay guys who are flamboyant and who represent the so called scene do so because thats there nature... not because they are gay. The reason JUB is constantly bombarded with threads about trying to meet the right guy is simply because the vast majority by a huge margin are normal every day people who go about our lives. We blend in, because we are part of society just like everyone else.
These issues exist everywhere... str8, bi, gay... the fact that you guys have all posted the same way proves that beyond doubt.
We just gotta remember sometimes that our problems are just a scaled down version of society in general. Theres not too many we can really say exclusively exist in our cultures if you think about it.
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You aren't alone at all with that. I despise most of the gay culture as well.
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I know that here in Sacramento our predominantly gay area doesn't seem to be quite that homogenous. You'll see people of every sort; drag queen, twink, bear, straight, "normal" whatever. I've never really had a bad experience. I'm not really into the scene but I don't think badly of those who are. It makes them happy so they should do it. It doesn't make me happy so I shouldn't. I think that the exaggerated views that people get of it come from the fact that as a society we focus on extremes. Really, what would be interesting to the population at large about a gay or bisexual man who wakes up, goes to work, comes home and spends time with his loved ones? It also seems to me that you can find just as much posturing,exclusion, and meaningless hookups in any straight club or bar. It's a facet of human nature. A sad one, but one that we shouldn't overlook.
Either extreme bugs me.
I feel uncomfortable around any sort of stereotype, but we should probably accept all God's creatures or something, no matter how 'obvious' they appear.
And if you think the stereotypically straight guy culture of bad jokes, and bashing a beer can on your head is any sexier or somehow inherently better - I just think you're being kind of silly. Your mannerisms or hobbies have nothing to do with how well you are in bed. I've been with straight-acting guys that were amazing, and some that weren't. I've been with fruity bois that were amazing, and some that weren't. If you can eat my ass like it's nobody's business why do I care if you have a manpurse or not? Whether you throw a football around or not is really irrelevant to how you can turn me on. So I didn't get the whole thing either way.
Listen. It just doesn't matter what you like to do. It has nothing to do with how good a person you are on the inside, and how good a lover you are. Do not hate on the stereotypical Madonna-loving queer. And if you even THINK about insulting a drag queen, you will leave my house with one testicle.
But I don't like people that are just boring and 'in the middle' all the time too. I try to like or dislike a person based on the complex layers of their soul and various other factors.
I feel uncomfortable around any sort of stereotype, but we should probably accept all God's creatures or something, no matter how 'obvious' they appear.
And if you think the stereotypically straight guy culture of bad jokes, and bashing a beer can on your head is any sexier or somehow inherently better - I just think you're being kind of silly. Your mannerisms or hobbies have nothing to do with how well you are in bed. I've been with straight-acting guys that were amazing, and some that weren't. I've been with fruity bois that were amazing, and some that weren't. If you can eat my ass like it's nobody's business why do I care if you have a manpurse or not? Whether you throw a football around or not is really irrelevant to how you can turn me on. So I didn't get the whole thing either way.
Listen. It just doesn't matter what you like to do. It has nothing to do with how good a person you are on the inside, and how good a lover you are. Do not hate on the stereotypical Madonna-loving queer. And if you even THINK about insulting a drag queen, you will leave my house with one testicle.
But I don't like people that are just boring and 'in the middle' all the time too. I try to like or dislike a person based on the complex layers of their soul and various other factors.
i hate the whole scene at my school, it's irritating to me. there are so few gay guys and all of the ones i do know are extremely obnoxious to me because i don't wear pink scarves and bronzer.
Then don't let then intimidate you for FUCK'S SAKE. If you don't like stereotypical gays, then prove how un-stereotypical you are by coming out of the closet. Are you even out to everybody you know? Or are you afraid somebody is going to find out how gay you are by your voice or how you walk. You know deep down you're not all that manly either even if you don't wear pink scarfs. At least the pink scarf guy has the BALLS to wear pink scarves, you heterosexist hoodlum! Or like most "macho" guys you think gayness is something to inherently hide. Could that be it? I know you guys keep saying this isn't a self-hating thing but I'm beginning to wonder.
If they don't represent you, don't let the little twinks have dominion damnit. Go on, try to prove them wrong. And I will fall flat on my face laughing as you learn to accept everybody for who they are like a good Disney original channel specialist does!
Then don't let then intimidate you for FUCK'S SAKE. If you don't like stereotypical gays, then prove how un-stereotypical you are by coming out of the closet. Are you even out to everybody you know? Or are you afraid somebody is going to find out how gay you are by your voice or how you walk. You know deep down you're not all that manly either even if you don't wear pink scarfs. At least the pink scarf guy has the BALLS to wear pink scarves, you heterosexist hoodlum! Or like most "macho" guys you think gayness is something to inherently hide. Could that be it? I know you guys keep saying this isn't a self-hating thing but I'm beginning to wonder.
If they don't represent you, don't let the little twinks have dominion damnit. Go on, try to prove them wrong. And I will fall flat on my face laughing as you learn to accept everybody for who they are like a good Disney original channel specialist does!
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Here is my personal input.
I have the luck to go around the world a bit, to study and work, and that gave me the chance to meet quite a variety of PEOPLE!
I have come to the conclusion that we are PEOPLE first of all! That's the one and Only label i put on Myself! Our sexuality has (or shouldn't have) nothing to do with that!
I personally cannot 'judge' or categorize someone by his or her sexuality. I am more interested in what i have to learn, what i have to experience, what i can give and how much i can grow having a "relationship" (this is meant in its WIDEST meaning: from a 'this is the first and last time I'll ever see you', to a 'friendship' to "fuck me i can't live without you" relationship) with someone.
I personally have met extremely queer guys, extremely butch girls, and the other way around. I have met heterosexuals, homosexuals, transexuals, bisexuals, pansexuals.... and probably any other prefix the word ''sexual'' can have!
What i got from each and every person i met, was different, interesting or less, helpful or not! But in any case, i have a load of experiences, that i am very proud of!
I have learned things that i thought helpful for myself and for what i want from my life, in the same percentage from straight people, as from the queerest folks in the village!
Where i want to get is this.
Yeah, i think being a 'FANATIC' is not a good thing, taken in any context! Being that the gay scene, or the straight scene. From politics, to sports, to religion! At the end of the day, Fanatics are the ones, under my point of view (and this may be a generalization, but that's the way I feel), that get 'stuck' on one thing, and then base their lives around that!
How many times have we heard about sport fanatics killing each other because of a football game? Or, not to take it that far, people that the only conversation they can have, at any time or place, is about SEX or their Sexuality! Whatever that may be!
Well, I say, let them be them! I personally feel i am free to be who i want to be! Some will judge me, the same way i will judge someone else! It's human nature! I don't like to see fanaticism grow, but on the other hand, there is not much we can do other than being ourselves!
Be yourself 'gothamking' in any way you want to be, without hurting others.... i found that that is the only way they will learn from you, the same way you will learn from 'them'....
As for the 'scene' and all the other things you mention in your original post. If you don't like them, you don't do them! I find it as simple as that! If you don't want to go to a gay bar, no one is forcing you to, and if they are, you might want to rethink who are the people close to you!
As bad as it looks, and sounds, racism exists among EVERYONE! Just because some gay people received racist 'actions' does not mean that gay people are not racists! Just because black people received a racist approach, does not mean some of them are not racist!
We are all people! Black/white/gay/straight and all the rest of the wonderful shades in between! Until we find a way to love and accept each other for who each and everyone of us is, racism will exist!
Until then.... Have a good day, take care of yourself, and enjoy your life... it's just simply SO wonderful to be free and ALIVE that everything else .... just seems petty...
(i guess this sub-categorizes me into a 'hippy' ? ...
Peace and Love....
Spread it!)
I have the luck to go around the world a bit, to study and work, and that gave me the chance to meet quite a variety of PEOPLE!
I have come to the conclusion that we are PEOPLE first of all! That's the one and Only label i put on Myself! Our sexuality has (or shouldn't have) nothing to do with that!
I personally cannot 'judge' or categorize someone by his or her sexuality. I am more interested in what i have to learn, what i have to experience, what i can give and how much i can grow having a "relationship" (this is meant in its WIDEST meaning: from a 'this is the first and last time I'll ever see you', to a 'friendship' to "fuck me i can't live without you" relationship) with someone.
I personally have met extremely queer guys, extremely butch girls, and the other way around. I have met heterosexuals, homosexuals, transexuals, bisexuals, pansexuals.... and probably any other prefix the word ''sexual'' can have!
What i got from each and every person i met, was different, interesting or less, helpful or not! But in any case, i have a load of experiences, that i am very proud of!
I have learned things that i thought helpful for myself and for what i want from my life, in the same percentage from straight people, as from the queerest folks in the village!
Where i want to get is this.
Yeah, i think being a 'FANATIC' is not a good thing, taken in any context! Being that the gay scene, or the straight scene. From politics, to sports, to religion! At the end of the day, Fanatics are the ones, under my point of view (and this may be a generalization, but that's the way I feel), that get 'stuck' on one thing, and then base their lives around that!
How many times have we heard about sport fanatics killing each other because of a football game? Or, not to take it that far, people that the only conversation they can have, at any time or place, is about SEX or their Sexuality! Whatever that may be!
Well, I say, let them be them! I personally feel i am free to be who i want to be! Some will judge me, the same way i will judge someone else! It's human nature! I don't like to see fanaticism grow, but on the other hand, there is not much we can do other than being ourselves!
Be yourself 'gothamking' in any way you want to be, without hurting others.... i found that that is the only way they will learn from you, the same way you will learn from 'them'....
As for the 'scene' and all the other things you mention in your original post. If you don't like them, you don't do them! I find it as simple as that! If you don't want to go to a gay bar, no one is forcing you to, and if they are, you might want to rethink who are the people close to you!
As bad as it looks, and sounds, racism exists among EVERYONE! Just because some gay people received racist 'actions' does not mean that gay people are not racists! Just because black people received a racist approach, does not mean some of them are not racist!
We are all people! Black/white/gay/straight and all the rest of the wonderful shades in between! Until we find a way to love and accept each other for who each and everyone of us is, racism will exist!
Until then.... Have a good day, take care of yourself, and enjoy your life... it's just simply SO wonderful to be free and ALIVE that everything else .... just seems petty...
(i guess this sub-categorizes me into a 'hippy'
? ... Peace and Love....
Spread it!)
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I'm a bi guy who has slept with a lot of women - and is the father of two grown up kids. When I'm with a man though I like feeling 'feminine' and act and dress accordingly!! Can anyone tell me what is wrong with that?
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As for gay culture, Ive found it to be very segregated and exclusionary. In other words, pretty damn bitchy.
nah, you're thinking of parts of ALL culture. it's human nature, grow up and learn to deal with it, don't blame the group of society you so desperately want to be alienated from. and if you dislike gay culture (and gays in general it seems,) why are you on a predominately gay website?
I only replied because this awful thread was already bumped, so no one blame me hahaha
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Re: So, Im Bi But a Lot of Gay Culture Annoys the
Damn right, and if I suck off a guy after watching the game, so be it!
Seriously though I agree with the original postrr 100%. 'The Scene' just turns me off, but I let tem do whatever makes them happy and get on with things!
Damn right, and if I suck off a guy after watching the game, so be it!
Seriously though I agree with the original postrr 100%. 'The Scene' just turns me off, but I let tem do whatever makes them happy and get on with things!
KismetChild
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Re: So, Im Bi But a Lot of Gay Culture Annoys the
It's not just guys that are sick of the "scene". . .
I'm already worn out by dealing with lesbians...it's like knocking at a brick wall. My knuckles are bloody and I've barely made a dent.
I love women and men...but it seems only men return that.
*Kismet*
It's not just guys that are sick of the "scene". . .
I'm already worn out by dealing with lesbians...it's like knocking at a brick wall. My knuckles are bloody and I've barely made a dent.
I love women and men...but it seems only men return that.
*Kismet*