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So should this guy be a policeman ??????

Telstra

Telstra

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He seems like an idiot running and shouting
as if he is the most important person ....

 
I love the way arm chair warriors sit in their living rooms and decide who is doing the right thing and who is not. We should judge people based on cell phone videos taken by bystanders who are part of a group of unruly citizens. Why don't you go to the police academy and do the training, so we can see how you react when confronted by a group of angry teenagers. It's become fashionable for people to disrespect and ignore the police thinking that they can do and say whatever they like. It's also fashionable for people like the op to sit in their living rooms and decide what is right. its bullshit. Did you see the video taken from another angle where there is a large guy in a blue short running toward the officer with his hand in his pants waist band? Did you see that video?
 
of course you do.....
 
IF a police officer has a valid legal reason to physically detain someone then the officer is right to make it happen even if the person does not cooperate, and even if the person gets injured.

IF a bunch of bystanders don't like it and they all rush in or try to rush the officer, they should expect to get sniped. They can't fucking interfere. If they think the officer is doing something wrong then they don't get into it, they file a complaint.

IF the police officer is in the middle of some legal police action for safety or security, the officer isn't running around "like he is in charge," he is in charge.
 
It's easy to look at snippets of videos and decide who's right or wrong, but the things not shown on the videos are just as important to make a logical judgement.

I would trust the cops judgement long before I would place any trust in these kids.
 
Reading about the quite large media coverage of this im inclined to say the cop was a shit. It was a load of 14 year old teenagers trying to go swimming and being told no,followed by an argument between a girl and a local resident. The fact the cop turned up at this and just went nuts is clearly piss poor on his part - they were fucking kids and a cool head would have sorted this out a lot better. Instead he ran about the place swearing, pulling his gun on people and doing fucking forward rolls about the place and expected them to react with calm. He seemed like a moron and needs to be better trained, but it was not the worst thing ever.
 
That was the first time I saw the full video. It's still way too much unneccesary police overreaction.

He begins as he means to go on with his ridiculous barrel-roll as if he's an action hero on a movie set, then he's just desperately trying to control an uncontrollable situation and using too much force and violence while he's doing it.

There's no point in having police who lose their temper and have anger issues. When you're in a rage things can escalate. He pulled his gun out and could have been THAT close to shooting one of the kids.

I don't understand why they couldn't have just calmly walked around, asking questions, getting information, investigating, being methodical, level-headed, taking names if there were any problems.

It's what the police in most other countries would have done.
 
The barrel roll is so good - it just means the teens are going to take the piss with you. Jeez I would still laugh in a cops face if he done that.
 
I have always respected the police but in return I expect a little respect from them. Not for them to rush around yelling "fuck" this and that or "shift your arse".

A difficult situation I accept but one handled extremely badly.
 
Telstra said:
i see the police running like a headless chicken
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And we see you posting like a brainless idiot. Does that mean you shouldn't be allowed online? By your own..... I hate to dignify it with the term logic, but there isn't anything to describe it.... the answer would be yes.
 
FPNY said:
I love the way arm chair warriors sit in their living rooms and decide who is doing the right thing and who is not. We should judge people based on cell phone videos taken by bystanders who are part of a group of unruly citizens. Why don't you go to the police academy and do the training, so we can see how you react when confronted by a group of angry teenagers. It's become fashionable for people to disrespect and ignore the police thinking that they can do and say whatever they like. It's also fashionable for people like the op to sit in their living rooms and decide what is right. its bullshit. Did you see the video taken from another angle where there is a large guy in a blue short running toward the officer with his hand in his pants waist band? Did you see that video?
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I don't know man, his been suspended now and you can see from fellow policemen in the video that they clearly can tell his lost it and try to calm him down a number of times but fail. He was clearly having a really really shit day or something and handled this awfully.
 
JohnnyAnger said:
I don't know man, his been suspended now and you can see from fellow policemen in the video that they clearly can tell his lost it and try to calm him down a number of times but fail. He was clearly having a really really shit day or something and handled this awfully.
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yeah, and then he runs in to this situation and he's going to lose his career over it. No body has even heard his side of the story yet, but he's suspended. I wouldn't be a cop today for all the money in the world. We live in a hostile, litigious society that is soon to be run by the marauding public. You'd all better go buy guns!
 
FPNY said:
yeah, and then he runs in to this situation and he's going to lose his career over it. No body has even heard his side of the story yet, but he's suspended. I wouldn't be a cop today for all the money in the world. We live in a hostile, litigious society that is soon to be run by the marauding public. You'd all better go buy guns!
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This guy didn't have the discipline or stability to be doing a job where he was out dealing with the public.

I'm sorry. I do not feel sorry for people who are doing jobs they can't handle, do them badly, and the end up terrorizing, beating, hospitalizing or shooting people to death. And I don't feel sorry if they lose their career over it.

If someone can't handle the pressure of doing ER surgery, would you extend to them all kinds of allowances for fuckup days he shouldn't lose his career over?
 
xbuzzerx said:
This guy didn't have the discipline or stability to be doing a job where he was out dealing with the public.

I'm sorry. I do not feel sorry for people who are doing jobs they can't handle, do them badly, and the end up terrorizing, beating, hospitalizing or shooting people to death. And I don't feel sorry if they lose their career over it.

If someone can't handle the pressure of doing ER surgery, would you extend to them all kinds of allowances for fuckup days he shouldn't lose his career over?
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Exactly this.
 
xbuzzerx said:
This guy didn't have the discipline or stability to be doing a job where he was out dealing with the public.

I'm sorry. I do not feel sorry for people who are doing jobs they can't handle, do them badly, and the end up terrorizing, beating, hospitalizing or shooting people to death. And I don't feel sorry if they lose their career over it.

If someone can't handle the pressure of doing ER surgery, would you extend to them all kinds of allowances for fuckup days he shouldn't lose his career over?
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This.
I still think he should NOT be a policeman.
If he is doing his job correctly, he should be calm, walk and not run (might out of breath in mins) and talk firmly.

Therefore he should be sacked for running like a headless chicken ... etc.
 
I think proper judgement of the officer belongs to an independent panel with full access to all possible information regarding the incident. I don't have that, but it's hard to imagine an impartial viewer watching the video and concluding it was policework well done.

FPNY said:
I love the way arm chair warriors sit in their living rooms and decide who is doing the right thing and who is not.
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Works both ways.

bankside said:
If they think the officer is doing something wrong then they don't get into it, they file a complaint.
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Prior to 2001, as in a lot of places, complaints against the police in my city were handled as an internal investigation by the police themselves. This didn't work, and it sucked for obvious reasons, and an independent police review commission was set up.

I couldn't find whether or not the McKinney Texas police department polices themselves.

I think citizens everywhere should routinely know how complaints about their own police are handled.
 
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