I can't believe what the fuck is going on in this country.
Well, maybe I should. This is the country that rejects evolution, doesn't believe in letting gay people have full rights, and won't vote for an atheist for Federal office. It should come as no surprise that people have managed to confound an issue related to the simple free pursuit of religion.
I keep hearing this word "should" in discussions of this issue. "Sure, they have the right to build the mosque, but *should* they?"
Who gives a flying fuck? There's no "should" to it. Do they have the financial and civic (permits and such) means? Is it within their constitutional right to free practice of religion? Yes to both? Okay, then it's a dead issue.
Enough of this "too close to ground zero" and "too soon" nonsense. They're attempting to build in downtown Manhattan. It's a hotbed of activity in America. They want a piece of the pie. It's not practical to ask them to relocate, as this may be for many purposes an ideal location for what they're doing.
Islam can fuck off for all I care. I'm a militant atheist, and the idea of the destruction of all world religions gives me great satisfaction. I'd gladly spit on the grave of most of the awful Islamic clerics in the Middle East who have committed atrocities in the name of their religion.
But none of that matters. Muslims are no more restricted from practicing their ghastly religion in this country than Christians, nor should they be until awful shitbags like Pat Robertson are tried for treason.
Shame on the people who have stirred up this worthless discussion, and shame on the American people for yet again pissing on the very ideas codified in our constitution by the founding fathers of this nation.
That was really good Razor..Real good.
Isn't that a little extreme?
Why is that when it comes to religious freedom we are happy to defend it and see no issue to have a mosque built near the WTC site but we don't share the same understanding when it comes to political freedom?
As much as we hate their opinions, aren't right wingers still allow to have one? As much as I despise the religion (and all religions), Muslims still have the right to practice their religion.
"Killing" and "deporting" those who think differently (no matter how wrong it is) is very hypocritical.
Kenny, Moltenrock, I respect you guys and I love it when you post. This post to you two is by no means an attack. It just that your posts scared me a little.
Sorry Ram, but we're not dealing with normal people here.Not at all.Since Reagan, and especially since 1994 the GOP has been cheerleading the destruction of our country.
Starting with Newt Gingrich's ''list of words''
http://www.skilluminati.com/research/entry/newt_gingrich_on_using_language_for_social_control/)to use when describing the opposition,right through to today,with them calling anyone to the left of Attilla the Hun a ''communist''..
These people are dangerous and their movement is cultivating violence in our country.Be it blowing up abortion clinics,murdering doctors,or speaking on tongues on a street corner babbling imprecatory prayer to defeat civil rights.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boUfcURApxY[/ame]
Right through to stoking the fires of racial tension by saying the president ''hates white people'' and isn't a citizen of this country.Or how about the ''fight them over there so we don't have to fight the muslims over here'' analogy,to describe the failed war on terrror? But while ''they'' are here,lets treat them like shit and deny them the rights that are a cornerstone of our country and it's freedoms.
They wont stop until the President is badly hurt or killed.Everyday Ram,these people get on tv,radio or are in the newspaper,desperately appealing to that one crazy motherfucker who will take a shot at the President or other key leaders in our government.Of course they will condemn any attack WHEN it does happen.What they wont do,is acknowledge their role in the lead up to violence..
I take nothing back Ram.I see what they are doing and they make me sick.Sure,not all of the republicans are bad.But taken together, a religious freak here,the teabaggers there,add in the bigots,the liars in right wing dominated media,and the thieves who are funneling all our money into the war industry and, what you have is a very, very dangerous movement when you're done.
Like I said,they are provoking violence and I hope they get back it in spades.Make them bleed.Their movement is dangerous,it's anti freedom and it's not far removed from the Taliban.I don't wanna live in a corrupt,third world society based on Biblical Law..That's where these scumbags are dragging this country.That's why I hope that, they,and their movement is absolutely destroyed with no chance of ever rising again.I see no hypocrisy in wishing them crushed.