Someone please explain children out of wedlock and single parent homes...

[Lostlover]

Oh wow, you really are a dumbass, aren't you?

First of all, telling it like you see it is not the same as stating the 100% truth. Not in the slightest. Telling it like you see it is, by nature, expressing your opinion. Let's just get that nonsense logic out of here. I sure as hell hope you don't teach the fact/opinion exercise. Otherwise your poor students are screwed.

Second, to say that a mother giving birth out of wedlock is comparable to a molester or a prostitute is stunningly offensive to so many people here and so far from accurate that I can't believe you were even able to type it. You really, truly are a disgusting individual with a void in place of your heart and a taco in place of your brain. You should not be allowed to teach anyone, nor should you be allowed to come within 100 feet of a child.

There's a difference between a child molester and a woman that shacks up. I just said I don't have empathy for either.

But can you tell me the difference between a prostitute and a shacker upper, besides money exchanging hands with a prostitute?

Again, I've seen this destroy families just like an alcoholic father. Except in society, there is no sympathy for alcoholics. You can't deny my experiences and what I've seen. And we all know there are hard statistics out there backing up everything I'm saying. So why play naive?

 

[blackbeltninja]

^Yes, it reminds me of you.

You decide with a knee-jerk response that everyone who disagrees with you is flat-out wrong regardless whether their facts are correct or not and whether yours are correct or not, and add some pop-psychology babble to it to give your observations (read: accusations) some weight.

I'd say that is pretty self-righteous. Would you agree?

-d-
PS: Your style of address of other members in here is also extremely fucking patronising
PPS: We were poor and struggled a fair amount. We were not poverty-stricken. Want another go?

 

[sixthson]

Wow, JohannBessler! Condescend much?

In the name of psychology, you presume to judge another while being guilty of your own self righteousness.

Your post reminds me of a verse in Matthew. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

 

[blackbeltninja]

^It's neither here nor there, but "If you don't like your job, why don't you just quit it?" is in fact a perfectly honest question and deserves an honest answer. I can't change your circumstances; you can. If you're not prepared to change your circumstances, get off the cross and quit bleating on about how hard done by you are. At some point you do stop being a victim and simply become complicit.

What I said to esquire was that his circumstances and mine are not dissimilar. Is it regarded as self righteous to remark on common ground shared by two people? Do me a favour, Johan - I like my doctors to be qualified, so if you're going to persist with the psychiatric analyses I'd like to see some credentials, please. Otherwise please preface everything with "here is an unfounded opinion which I have just pulled out of my arsehole" so it's patently obvious to everyone that you're simply making shit up as you go along.

It would also help if you posted a picture of yourself dressed as a clown. Thanks.

-d-

 

[blackbeltninja]

^ You don't find that this is an incredibly self-righteous thing to say?

No.

(BTW, I never complained about my own job. It was another poster to whom you delivered your remarks;I merely called you out on them.)

It doesn't matter who was complaining about anything. The observations and suggestions stand in any case. If you want someone to agree with you wholeheartedly, pay someone to do so

-d-

 

[Ram]

I think you should focus more on the kids and less on the parents. Whether the kids are terrible or not, it's your job to provide an opportunity for them to learn and grow. If you think they are terrible kids, they will be terrible kids.

As a kid, I was a cunt. Or is. Whatever. I am always grateful of the opportunities my teachers gave me to change and better myself.

If you hate the parents so much, maybe you can challenge your dislike into motivation to ensure that the kids don't turn out to be like their parents.

Now I can NEVER be a teacher because I fucking hate the naughty ones. Fuck opportunity, I will school and read the shit out of them. I know it's the wrong thing to do but I know myself. Maybe you should ask yourself if you are in the right profession in the first place.

 

[lambdaboy]

I am an American livining in London lest you think this only happens in the U.S. your wrong. I can not tell you how many girls ( I can not call 15 year olds women) are pregnant poor and on welfare. There boyfriends if they are still with thm never live with them and rarely work that way the girl gets welfare.

And if anyone thinks this is about race forget it the majority over here that do it are whiter than my ass.

Not getting married is fine, having sex is fine but being so stupid as not to use birth control when you can not afford to raise a child is selfish.

Anyoen who thinks I am a jack ass can F off

 

[healingduck]

I think the point the TC missed is that not all the kids are that way because of single parent families. Even if they are, it may not be because the mom was a whore and didn't care what happened to the kids. Especially now-a-days, people can have a job one day, and be jobless the next. I'm pretty sure juggling a job and kids isn't exactly easy. Like the other guy said, consider another profession.

 

[sixthson]

I think Ram is right. The OP's focus, as an educator, should be on the child. It's a wonderful thing when parents are involved with the teachers who teach their children. But the truth is, there are lots of parents who just don't care. They want the schools to do their job.
A teacher probably can't change a parent, but a good teacher will definitely change a child. It may not show up for years, but it does happen.

A teacher changed my life.

 

[MMMonsterBoy]

Why the hell do you care? Worry about your own dick. When you have children, raise them to be absolutely perfect because you give a damn. As we all know, life really is that simple [/sarcasm]

 

[Lostlover]

I don't hate the kids. I like them. A lot of times the kids are who they are because someone dropped the ball at home. I was afraid of my parents finding out that I was acting up or not doing my work. These days kids are best friends with their parents. (I'm in my 20's sounding like my parents here.) I heard of one mom and son texting each other during a parent teacher conference.

Following through on inappropriate behavior is futile. Again, who is holding the child accountable in a broken home? The overburdened mother? The absent dad? Grandma? Grandpa?

High school aged males listen to their fathers more than their mothers. I called a father I knew personally about his son and the son's behavior changed. And then his mom wrote me one of the nastiest letters for calling the father. Of course they weren't married and were playing house, but the father was abusive and beat the son. And how was I supposed to know this?

I think you should focus more on the kids and less on the parents. Whether the kids are terrible or not, it's your job to provide an opportunity for them to learn and grow. If you think they are terrible kids, they will be terrible kids.

As a kid, I was a cunt. Or is. Whatever. I am always grateful of the opportunities my teachers gave me to change and better myself.

If you hate the parents so much, maybe you can challenge your dislike into motivation to ensure that the kids don't turn out to be like their parents.

Now I can NEVER be a teacher because I fucking hate the naughty ones. Fuck opportunity, I will school and read the shit out of them. I know it's the wrong thing to do but I know myself. Maybe you should ask yourself if you are in the right profession in the first place.

 

[Lostlover]

I am an American livining in London lest you think this only happens in the U.S. your wrong. I can not tell you how many girls ( I can not call 15 year olds women) are pregnant poor and on welfare. There boyfriends if they are still with thm never live with them and rarely work that way the girl gets welfare.

And if anyone thinks this is about race forget it the majority over here that do it are whiter than my ass.

Not getting married is fine, having sex is fine but being so stupid as not to use birth control when you can not afford to raise a child is selfish.

Anyoen who thinks I am a jack ass can F off

This is my attitude. If you want to screw yourself, go jump off a cliff. Just don't bring children into your games and then expect schools to raise them.

I've been wrong many times on here, but this time I'm sure as hell in the right. Experimenting with children is shameful.

 

[Musik2400]

And what's wrong with being friends with your parents? I was close in this way to my parents, and respected and listened to them BECAUSE they treated me with respect, and like a friend.

also was a lot more inclined to listen to my mother than my father, because as a teenager I thought my father was a know-it-all arrogant asshole who's narrow view of the world had kept him anchored to a shitty job his entire life, making him never truly successfull.

 

[Lostlover]

And what's wrong with being friends with your parents? I was close in this way to my parents, and respected and listened to them BECAUSE they treated me with respect, and like a friend.

also was a lot more inclined to listen to my mother than my father, because as a teenager I thought my father was a know-it-all arrogant asshole who's narrow view of the world had kept him anchored to a shitty job his entire life, making him never truly successfull.

Because they're your parents, not your best friend.

 

[Lostlover]

About as shameful as an educator comparing single moms to prostitutes...or his inability to see the difference. And you're sure as hell that you're in the right.

Again, single moms and prostitutes are both giving it away, except the prostitute is getting paid for it.

It takes a real special woman to open her legs, have a baby in her for 8 months and not demand any type of commitment from the [STRIKE]father[/STRIKE] sperm donor. Seriously, if that was your sister getting knocked up, wouldn't you have a talk with her? Shaming the family? No self pride?

I don't have any sisters. But I sure would have a talk with her.

 

[Musik2400]

Because they're your parents, not your best friend.

See but all your doing here is begging the question, not actually giving me a solid reason.

 

[Lostlover]

See but all your doing here is begging the question, not actually giving me a solid reason.

Do your friends provide/d you shelter? Clothes? Did they give birth to you? Did they teach you right from wrong?

If you respect your parents as much as the friends you've made through school or the neighborhood, I'm at a loss for words.

 

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[sixthson]

Again, single moms and prostitutes are both giving it away, except the prostitute is getting paid for it.

It takes a real special woman to open her legs, have a baby in her for 8 months and not demand any type of commitment from the [strike]father[/strike] sperm donor. Seriously, if that was your sister getting knocked up, wouldn't you have a talk with her? Shaming the family?

First of all, let me say that you are truly an asshole of the highest order. If the mods wish to ban me for this, then so be it.
Your smug condemnation of unwed mothers as whores and your complete disrespect even for your own mother when you talk about her keeping her legs closed until marriage only shows your utter contempt for all women. What decent son would even consider saying such a vile thing to his Mom?

Having said that, I believe families need to be planned. This means the parent needs to be as emotionally, psychologically and financially prepared as possible to raise a child. Parenting is a lot of hard word and while single parents have all my respect for making it work, I have no idea how they do it alone, especially young women who have not completed their educations and begun careers and become living independent lives.

As to your remark about "shaming the family", you apparently overlook the fact that much of the world see gays as a blight on the family, too. According to them and other haters, like you, we threaten to bring down society.
And make no mistake about this: you are a hater!

For the sake of argument, let's say having children out of wedlock is wrong. How does your heaping condemnation and shame on them help anyone?

I realize nothing anyone says here will make any difference to you because like most attention seeking whores, you don't care whether the attention is positive or negative, as long as someone notices you.

Enjoy it.

 

[Lostlover]

I never called unwed women whores. I'm very aware that some unwed mothers have children with men they've been living with for years. Let's not lie to make points. I love having sex just as much as the next person, except I'm not bringing children into the equation.

If your sister was an unwed mother, wouldn't you talk to her about shaming the family? Or her stacking the statistical chips against her child, before he or she is even born?

Wow. Being gay doesn't involve experimenting with children. There's no comparison between having children out of wedlock and having a gay child. One is out of the control of people and the other could very well be prevented. You might forget to wear underwear, but not a condom.

As for shaming MY family for being a part of the gay community, I don't think that is possible. Every adult over 24 in my family is a college graduate. College graduates, statistically speaking, aren't opposed to gay rights as those that aren't educated. And college graduates also don't have children out of wedlock. So I'm pretty much accepted in my family. A family that ranges from tree hugging liberals to toxic evangelicals.

And PS: I don't report people for disagreeing with me or name calling. When you're right, there's almost nothing someone else can say to change the facts. Despite being a strong supporter for free speech, I don't call other posters names when addressing them. It gives the impression that you don't have a leg to stand on.