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Star Trek - Did you know this?

Yes, you're talking about Susan Oliver as "Vina". The Talosians made her appear in a variety of forms to excite Captain Christopher Pike. But ol' Chris was one tough nut to crack, LOL!

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Like you I've heard a lot of stories surrounding the Start Trek Original Series. But for now I'd like to say that Susan Oliver and me go waay back. Just like many of the character actors appearing on Star Trek, Susan had roles on many TV series in the 60's. By the time she played "Vina" Susan was very familiar to TV viewers nationwide. As a kid it was fun to see a familiar face in an episode of Star Trek.

Remember that at the time Star Trek was just another TV show. Few, if any, of the guest stars knew that Star Trek would make them immortal. Susan was all over TV as I grew-up. She starred on "The Andy Griffith Show" and "Gomer Pyle USMC". Susan could appear anywhere from "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." to "The Wild, Wild West".

Now tell me, do you remember Sherry Jackson?

She made quite an entrance on Star Trek as an android. This was the episode that debuted Majel Barrett as Christine Chapel. Not only is Sherry Jackson beautiful, she's a sci-fi buff and also appeared on "Lost in Space". Notice in this clip how ominous the mood is, you know something is up, and it's bad.


We may already be at the point where Star Trek may be the only legacy for many of the familiar character actors from my generation. With each passing year we lose someone that feels like family to me. To the actors that have entertained me for near 60 years I can only say, "Thank You".
 
Now tell me, do you remember Sherry Jackson?

I remember her, but not very well. If the guest stars didn't make a name for themselves later on, they were just another name in the credits.

For instance, I remember Barbara Anderson (Eve Whitfield, Ironside) as Lenore in 'The Conscience of the King', and Diana Muldaur who went on to become Dr. Polaski in TNG. And, of course, Lee Meriwether, Frank Gorshin, Ricardo Montalban, Gary Lockwood, Sally Kellerman, Kim Darby, Julie Newmar, Jane Wyatt, Vic Tayback, Ted Cassidy, David Soul, Jill Ireland, Keye Luke, Clint Howard, and lots of others.
 
Slightly off topic, but just more current:

Chris Pine: ‘It’s About Fucking Time We Had A Gay ‘Star Trek’ Character.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chris-pine-gay-star-trek_us_57d2e4b1e4b03d2d459a23be?section=§ion=us_queer-voices

There was a hint of one on TNG.

There was supposed to be, but there never was:

According to The Advocate, Roddenberry promised that in the then-upcoming fifth season of TNG, gay crew members would appear on the show. Other stars of the franchise chimed in, with Leonard Nimoy (who played Spock) offering his support in a 1991 letter to the Los Angeles Times saying, "It is entirely fitting that gays and lesbians will appear unobtrusively aboard the Enterprise—neither objects of pity nor melodramatic attention."

However, Roddenberry died soon after his interviews and the announced plans to have a gay crew member on TNG never materialized. Control of the Star Trek franchise fell to Rick Berman. While no gay crew members appeared on TNG, "The Outcast" was one episode that was intended to address the subject of sexual discrimination in the Star Trek universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_in_Star_Trek
 
The hint was something that Counselor Troi said to a crew member. I don't recall what she said, which season, or episode. It was very subtle.
 
^ I found this:

Gene Roddenberry had made public his plans to add gay characters to the show (with Geordi La Forge reported to be one such character in the original series treatment), and had even commissioned scripts to introduce them at the start of the series' run. However, with his declining health and subsequent death leaving Executive Producer Rick Berman in charge of production, these plans were scrapped and as of 2015 no overtly gay characters have appeared in any "Star Trek" TV series or film, though several were originally scripted as such. Though no public reason has ever been cited for this omission, writers David Gerrold, Ronald D. Moore, and actors Leonard Nimoy, Kate Mulgrew and Scott Bakula have all obliquely point to Berman as personally vetoing all attempts to introduce LGBT characters into the "Trek" universe. Star Trek, long praised as a pioneer in introducing awareness of social causes into popular entertainment, has been criticized for having cold feet on this particular matter.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092455/trivia (Fascinating reading if you're into TNG trivia.)
 
As I was saying, it wasn't blatant in your face stuff. 99% of the watchers wouldn't have caught it. The gay ones would've.
 
All these years I only heard rumors about introducing "gay" characters on Star Trek. Beyond the show itself the cast may have been far more accepting of all types of ideas concerning the future of the series.

I have no way to prove what I'm about to say, but by the time Star Trek was in the development stage the 1960's pace of change was moving ever faster as the world was leaving the 1950's behind, finally. Certainly the year 1964 looms large in the planning behind Star Trek. As a little boy it seems like an unspoken agreement had taken place and everyone agreed that 1964 was the year the "Go-Go 60's" began earning its reputation.

I'm very lucky to have found you guys here at JUB to offer background on Star Trek lore. Waay back in 1983 I read a book called , "The Star Trek Companion". It was from that book I saw this photo for the first time:

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Hope you guys feel the same way I do - I'd like to know more about the behind-the-scenes goings-on during production of, "Where No Man Has Gone Before". I'm thinking of a sequel: "Where Most Men Go Every Chance They Get".
 
As I was saying, it wasn't blatant in your face stuff. 99% of the watchers wouldn't have caught it. The gay ones would've.

I know you said it was subtle, but I can't find any reference to it, and I've seen the series dozens of time. If she said it, I didn't catch it.
 
Well, they just started the series again on Labour Day. I remember the scene now, but not the discussion. I'll keep an ear out for it.
 
Was anyone else able to catch the airing of the Actual Pilot on Saturday on Me TV? The one NBC rejected (but parts were used later as the two-parter).

Despite being a fan of TOS, I'd never seen it start to finish, and as I understand, it's been a rare event.

I am sure glad they reinvented the Warp Drive sequence--it was pretty bad. If you didn't see it, it was kind of a double exposure, with all the cast just 'frozen' and a see-through Enterprise whizzing through space, all the while a slightly altered theme song played while they were in warp.

Guess that's why they make pilots. :D
 
^ It's been broadcast here a number of times on our 'Space Channel'. Usually it's broadcast in holiday marathons of the original series.
 
I love this thread. Long time lover of Star Trek. I was a baby/toddler when it first aired but when it was in syndication, I watched it constantly. As for gay characters I recall only once on Next Generation. Remember when Riker fell in love with -gasp- a non female alien? of course, it wasn't male either and was played by a female. What a letdown! I would've liked for Riker to have fallen for a male alien. Tall, dark, bearded, and hairy chested. At least one scene with the alien and Riker shirtless and kissing. That would've been hot! Need it be said, I've got a thing for Riker. On Deep space Nine, Jadzia kissed another woman. Or, rather the worm things inside them, kissed. One male and one female. Still, it looked like the women kissed. There was flack but two hot girls can always get away with it. I'm not as familiar with Voyager and Enterprise. Did anyone gay come out on them? Possibly Chakotay?

And now Sulu, after being straight for 50 years is now gay? With 20 seconds of innuendo? I'm already hearing nasty comments about it and nobody wants to see sex on Star Trek. it's a family show. Since when? From the beginning, it was all sex. Kirk has banged so many women, McCoy had to work overtime on STD treatments. lol Incredible amount of sex in TOS.

And the OP's post. I've seen that episode many times but never noticed that connection with Mayberry. Then again, there's more than one barber named Floyd on the planet. lol Maybe Kirk was in Mayberry. He'd be all over Aunt Bee. Hey, I remember somebody theorizing that the barber Floyd might be gay. maybe. Joan Collins! To me, she's always Alexis, the British superbitch!
 
Jadzia was a Trill. The 'worm' was basically male. That's why Sisko often referred to her as "old man". Sorry, Riker was as straight as they come. No gay characters on Voyager or Enterprise.

Sulu (George Takei) was in the closet for all those years. Coming out would've destroyed his acting career.
 
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