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Survivor 21: Nicaragua

Brenda's reaction in that scene was such a letdown. I saw her make the little smile at Sash and when he didn't give her the idol, I was expecting a grimace or a frown or a giant >:O or SOMETHING. Instead she just kind of stared blankly.

I think that's the main reason I never fully embraced Brenda despite being portrayed as a hot power chick. She's just a boring gamebot with very little emotion. I always prefer people with a little more complexity and raw emotion, hence why Holly is my favorite this season.
 
Could someone please PM me the boot list? I am curious who makes it to the final 3.

That was shocking that the young tribe flipped. They still have Dan and Holly to get rid of.
 
If Dan doesn't go out soon I might stop watching this season.

He is fucking useless and honestly I'm embarrassed watching him. He can do absolutly nothing and has made no sort of moves or anything noteworthy during the game. Many could argue that Purple Kelly is the same way but at least she is semi-athletic and good to look at. Dan is equivalent to a sack of shit right now.
 
Brenda is TOO GOOD TO SCRAMBLE pschhhh bullshit
At least she's gone and thats a good thing even tho I think she was waiting on sash to use his idol LMAO Even Chase voted against her !! ahahahaha

And now they're showing spoilers in the previews... good edting guys !!! loool
 
That's happened multiple times. I don't think CBS expects people to pay attention to the previews in such close detail, but they're very wrong... lol. My favorite accidental spoiler was when they showed a preview of the final five in Survivor Marquesas walking to Tribal Council and Kathy clearly had the immunity necklace on her neck or something like that.

Although, I don't know why we got a preview for a new episode in the first place, because next week is going to be a recap due to Thanksgiving. :/

That's another problem I have with bigger casts. The pre-merge stretches on and on forever and then the merge part, which is what I find the MOST interesting, comes and goes in about a month's worth of episodes. Since there's only five episodes left including the finale and the recap, I'm sure we'll also be seeing another double elimination episode too. Knowing the spoiled boot list, I think it will be the episode after the recap.
 
Now Sash is the only asshole that remains. Surely the others have realized the silent snake that he is, as they did with Brenda.

I really didn't like Jane for much of the earlier episodes. But I got to hand it to her now. If winning Survivor was about ability to survive, she deserves to win. But, too bad Survivor is not really about that. After beating out the young guys 2 episodes in a row in physical challenges, she's looking like a big threat to them now.
 
I don't care what anyone says. I like Brenda. She's a bad bitch.

She knew she had no shot. There's no point in begging these assholes for anything. Nothing would have worked with those dried up haters.
 
I don't care what anyone says. I like Brenda. She's a bad bitch.

She knew she had no shot. There's no point in begging these assholes for anything. Nothing would have worked with those dried up haters.


The woman was an entitled, arrogant asshole. Sorry. When you think you are too good to communicate, too good to try and talk yourself out of a mess you got into because you secluded yourself, and thought you were too smart to get out witted, and out witted by her own crazy friend. Good she's gone.
 
Aren't there anymore hidden immunity idols to be found or does the script department only allot the remaining ones to Russell next season?
 
They only hide new Immunity Idols when the existing ones are played or the people holding them are voted out. Sash and Na'onka still have the originals.
 
Jeff's blog entry 10:

Episode 10

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/11/18/jeff-probst-blogs-survivor-nicaragua-episode-10/#more-111913

People often ask me “Hey Probst! What keeps you interested in the show after 21 seasons?”

Well, I’m guessing it’s the same thing that keeps you guys interested — human nature. At its core that’s what Survivor is really all about, isn’t it? Our nature as humans and how we behave in different situations?

Holly is a great example. Five days into the show and she wanted to quit; 22 days later not only is she still around, but she could win. What changed? Her behavior. After nearly losing her mind, she rallied. She gained a lot of respect and now is considered a threat to go to the end.

Brenda is another fascinating case study of human behavior. More on her later..

Tonight, the gold star goes to Naonka and Fabio for instigating and following through with a big move.

SASH & THE IDOL
Let’s just be clear about this idol in Sash’s pocket. (I’m referring to the immunity idol… just to be really clear.) Sash isn’t going to use that idol to save anybody but himself. No chance. Listen up future players: If you don’t have the idol in your possession when you walk in to tribal council, it is very unlikely you will have it in your hand when I ask for it. Yes it has happened on rare occasions, as when Parvati had a bag full of idols, but in most situations, the idol will be used to save the person who possesses it.

REWARD CHALLENGE
This was old school Survivor. Barrels, planks and rope. Very few rules. A group of people forced to work together and get creative. I love challenges like this. Generally speaking they don’t favor anybody, they’re easy to follow, easy to judge and they reward teamwork.

My favorite moment in the reward challenge was Benry’s “ceremonial losers backflip.” Again, another fascinating moment for my little brain to comprehend. You just lost but you still have enough energy, sense of humor, and lack of concern to do a back flip. Then again, maybe if I could do a back flip I’d have done one too!

CAMP FIRE
Yes, it really happened. While they were away at the reward challenge, back at camp their fire started to grow, and evidently it caught part of the temporary structure they had made to protect the fire from the rain.

It’s one of those great moments that make reality shows so unpredictable. It was just pure luck that the entire camp did not burn down. The juxtaposition of five people enjoying their reward by “pigging out” and volcano surfing while the other five were dealing with a disastrous situation back at camp was wonderful. Does that mean I’m some form of sadist? Or just a competent television producer? Maybe they’re just one in the same?

JANE DOES IT AGAIN
Love it. The immunity challenge was another very simple but very effective challenge. “Hang on for as long as you can.” At first glance you would guess that someone like Benry or Chase would be in it at the end. And they were. But so was Jane. The oldest woman in the game and the frailest of all the Survivors left. Okay, I’m excluding Dan.

The reason Jane did so well? It was will power. Pure will power. Once again, Jane surprised everybody and outlasted people a third of her age and two guys who were clearly much stronger.

For a moment Jane wanted to quit. The reason I encouraged Jane to stay in the challenge was because I hate to see anybody “give up.” I love when people surprise themselves by doing better than they thought they could. She’s been through hard times in life. She knows what she is capable of and she believes it. She just needed a little reminder. But at the end of the day…encouragement only goes so far. I can encourage people but I can’t do the challenge for them.

NOW ABOUT BRENDA
As I was saying earlier. Another fascinating case study of human nature. She’s very bright, strikingly beautiful, and owns her own business. She has a lot going for her in life. On Survivor she has been doing a fantastic job at managing relationships and forging alliances. She was really in a very strong position in this game.

But when things turned against her and she was forced to “scramble,” she wouldn’t do it. I was truly surprised that she never did. I believe the quote was “The last thing I want to do is start scrambling. It just shows that you are desperate.”

Uh… yeah. You’re desperate. Nothing wrong with feeling desperate in a million dollar game. You should feel desperate when you believe you are about to be voted out. That’s a very rational thought. Nobody is going to look at you sideways for feeling desperate when more than half the tribe is threatening to vote for you. Desperation is often a temporary condition on Survivor. It isn’t always fatal. Lots of people have been in trouble, aka “desperate” on Survivor, made desperate moves in response, and as a result survived the vote and ended up making it to the end. Some of them even won! That’s the game. You assess and reassess every moment of every day.

It’s a beautiful and vicious cycle. Even when you feel “comfortable” you know you’re not necessarily “safe,” and when you’re truly not safe, which makes you feel “desperate” and so you make a move to try and feel comfortable again. It’s why most Survivors need therapy when the game is over!

I wonder if Brenda even cares that she was voted out. I wondered it that night. I still wonder now. Could it be that Brenda is so used to things going her way that she doesn’t know how to scramble? Maybe that’s the answer to the riddle. Maybe that is one skill that Brenda has never tested. It’s a bummer she’s gone but proves once again that in order to win this game, you have to want to win and you have to be willing to make a move… even if it means acknowledging you’re desperate.

MOVING FORWARD…THIS GAME IS ON

Like her or not, Naonka is playing the game. She’s a fair weather participant for sure, but when she wants to play she is a pot stirrer. Marty would be proud. Naonka could win if she ends up in the final with Purple Kelly. Even then she would need to pray.

Fabio is also starting to turn it on. Last week he was laying back, playing “cool.” This week he was part of a very big move taking out a major power player. I think Fabio is really starting to figure out this game.
Lurking in the shade is Jane. If things keep going the way they are, people may forget Jane is even in the game. If Jane gets to the end she would very likely be a millionaire.

The Redeemer is Holly. I’m usually a pretty good gauge of what the audience is feeling and I think a lot of you are starting to like Holly and have forgotten about those first five days.

The “no chance” is Dan. I just can’t see a scenario in which Dan could win this game.

The other “no chance” is Purple Kelly. Sweet young woman. I like her. But she hasn’t earned it and unless she really turns it on, her best finish is to make herself a great person to take to the end because she can’t win.

Sash is “in trouble.” He’s going to have to work hard to stay alive now that his partner is gone. If he can do it, he could make a strong case that he deserves to win. Otherwise he could be gone soon.

Benry is a “long shot.” He could make it to the end based on physical abilities but at this point he doesn’t have a strong enough case to win it.

The wildcard is Chase. Chase is likable enough to win this game and wishy-washy enough to screw it all up for himself and somebody else. Being in an alliance with Chase is risky.

Did I forget anybody?

See ya next week.
 
After skimming through Jeff's blog and seeing him acknowledge Purple Kelly's existence, it reminded me that she sadly has become one of my favorites this season.

The fact that the editors are making JOKES out of her lack of screentime (Na'onka: "Kelly B, err, Purple Kelly is sitting over there"; Chase: "You never talk much" / PK: "Yeah, it's kind of funny, huh? ^_^") is just cracking me up now. And whenever she does open her mouth, it's dumb blonde gold like "MILK YOUR OWN MILK" and "Twenty years of wisdom"!

Plus she's starving out there, y'all. Such an INVP edit. :(

Also, ugh @ Jeff. Holly was my favorite from DAY ONE, thanks. His blogs are so obviously parroting what the producers want us to believe where the season will go now. "Hey, you know that crazy chick who sank Dan's shoes? Well now she's obviously a likable top-tier contender to win the game! I even care about her now and she's not a big hot alpha male like my 'friend' Colby!"
 
I was reading Survivor Sucks and in the spoilers there is some speculation about Sash doing or saying something at TC that causes Jeff to stop the cameras. The spoiler said it may be something that is never shown but may come to light once the show has wrapped the season.
 
I don't care what anyone says. I like Brenda. She's a bad bitch.

I liked Brenda too. Wish she had outlasted some of the others, and I'm disappointed that Naonka turned on her. I actually liked their friendship/alliance.
 
I liked Brenda too. Wish she had outlasted some of the others, and I'm disappointed that Naonka turned on her. I actually liked their friendship/alliance.

You realize that Jeff kind of/ sort of set this in motion at tribal. I think he planted a seed that grew, and when Holly and Jane put the suggestion out there she ran with it very nicely. It was a beautifully executed play against Sash and Brenda. It left Sash's ass blowing in the wind.

If you look at the Ponderosa clips of Brenda arriving and Alina hanging alone while Brenda and Marty talk : a little later they get a tree mail about a next day Tribal, meaning Brenda only had a day of rest before having to head back to tribal, and unlike previous Pondarosa clips, they do not show them arriving at tribal. Here comes the explosions.
 
I liked Brenda too. Wish she had outlasted some of the others, and I'm disappointed that Naonka turned on her. I actually liked their friendship/alliance.

Thank u. I'm so glad I'm not alone.

You realize that Jeff kind of/ sort of set this in motion at tribal. I think he planted a seed that grew, and when Holly and Jane put the suggestion out there she ran with it very nicely. It was a beautifully executed play against Sash and Brenda. It left Sash's ass blowing in the wind.

This why I cannot fucking stand Jeff. And it just mystifies me how he wins outstanding host every year. he's such a fucking meddler that completely undermines the integrity of the game.

He's such a sexist pig that I'm sure it killed him that Brenda was running things in the game and he just couldnt keep his mouth shut.
 
Editor: Sarah Hepola
Updated: Today
Topic:
Survivor
Saturday, Nov 20, 2010 19:01 ET
Heather Havrilesky
"Survivor's" stunning comeback
The "old-versus-young" season looked like a dud, but then the reality show yielded its sharpest weapon: Surprise
By Heather Havrilesky

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CBS
Jane Bright from "Survivor: Nicaragua"

Back in 2003, when everyone feared that reality TV show producers were actually bloodthirsty aliens sent from another planet to humiliate and demean us so thoroughly that eventually we'd commit hara-kiri on the sword of our own self-hatred, "Survivor" always seemed like the one show created by an earthling who fully grasped reality TV's dramatic potential. Unlike the "Temptation Island"s and "Paradise Hotel"s and other "Rotten Island"-themed televisual experiments of the time, "Survivor" was thoughtfully designed to highlight the charms and flaws of the assorted naifs and manipulative bastards selected to crouch on the beach together, cooking bad rice in the rain. More than just leaning into the psychological experiment at hand, though, "Survivor" set the bar higher than it needed to: The camerawork was beautiful, setting the scene by lingering on breathtaking shots of sparkling tropical waters and local wildlife, the theme song was catchy, the editing was smart and suspenseful, and the game itself was addictively simple: Stay focused, maintain your sanity, and be the last one left on the island.

Over the years, while the depraved reality three-ring circus of surgically reconstructed housewives, striving entrepreneurs, C-listers and ladies who want to marry Flavor Flav has collapsed in on itself, "Survivor" still survive -- thrives, even. After a few scattered bad seasons, the show has been on a roll lately, thanks to some well-timed twists and casting stunts (All-Stars! Race wars!), hitting a high point in the colliding self-righteousness and open hostility of "Heroes vs. Villains."

Now that the show's loyal audience has grown accustomed to these gimmicks, though, each new season requires a new stunt. While the "Old vs. Young" teams that launched the current season of "Survivor: Nicaragua" (8 p.m. Wednesdays on CBS) looked promising at first -- how would hot youngsters with brawn match up against unhot oldsters with brains? -- the formula caved in when the Youngs proved to be beautiful, strong and at least functionally smart, while the Olds turned out to be every bit as whiny, arrogant, vindictive and pathetic as … well, actual old people. Oldster Dan brought along a pair of bad knees to match his $1,600 pair of Italian leather shoes (huh?). Oldster Holly stole and buried Dan's shoes in the sand (why?), then rolled out the extra-large crazy guns by confessing her crime to Dan and everyone else. Meanwhile, oldster Marty indulged in an all-too-familiar "I am the puppet master" routine, even as he demonstrated that he had about as much strategic finesse and self-knowledge as a sock puppet. One with googly eyes and really bad hair.

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Despite their physical, mental and emotional handicaps, the old tribe had one thing going for them: former Dallas football coach Jimmy Johnson Although "Survivor" producers had never cast a celebrity on the show, it was instantly clear why they'd break their own rule with Johnson. Not only is he a longtime "Survivor" fan, but he epitomizes the strengths, wisdom and charisma that come with age. From the first day, he was a magnetic presence on his team whose natural leadership couldn't be denied. He made tough calls, he rallied the team, he calmed them when they were disappointed; this was the kind of leader that every "Survivor" player, squatting in the cold and the rain, might've dreamed of. Using only his words, he made shivering in soaked clothes while the TV cameras rolled seem like a deeply valiant and enviable act. Even better, he even made it clear that he didn't want to win at all, he simply wished to enjoy the experience and be the best team member that he could possibly be.

So what did the old team do? They voted him out almost immediately. Then they lost, and lost, and lost, and kept losing.

Now, if you're an old (old starts at 40 here), whiny know-it-all with creaky joints and a bad attitude like I am, the last thing in the world you want is to watch other old, whiny know-it-alls hobbling around on the beach, cradling their creaky elbows, moaning about their bad knees, complaining about how cocky or unstable or weak everyone else on their stupid team is. "He thinks he knows everything, but he's wrong!" the old people said of each other. "I'm the one who knows everything! Me! Owww, my back." If I wanted to hear pathetic old people whimper about other pathetic old people, I'd attend more neighborhood zoning meetings.

Meanwhile, the youngsters were frolicking about, their supple young parts bouncing in their bikinis, their awe-inspiring meat Chiclets bronzing nicely in the Nicaraguan sunshine. Of course they weren't getting along well or anything like that -- but young people are used to hating each other for no good reason. South Central bad girl NaOnka hated long-haired Spicoli-style dude (whose real name I don't remember because he was instantly renamed "Fabio" when he hit the beach -- they even use "Fabio" in the opening credits). Stranger still, everyone seemed to dislike Kelly, a great athlete with a prosthetic leg, unfairly targeting her as a threat to win the "sympathy vote" early on, even though she wasn't remotely the type to pander for a jury's sympathy. The young team was playing by mean-girl high school rules, cavalierly booting whoever seemed uncool or out of sync with the majority. And who was at the center of it all? Mean girl Brenda and her sharp metrosexual boy sidekick, Sash.

Depressingly enough, it soon became clear that Brenda was the sort of effortlessly confident popular girl who barely had to lift a finger to make the tribe do her bidding. Gigantic, gorgeous country boy Chase followed her around like a puppy dog enforcer. NaOnka made an early alliance with her and silently backed her every move. Even though Sash seemed capable of striking out on his own, he stuck close to Brenda, with her casually dismissive, insidiously passive demeanor. Like all quiet but powerful popular girls, Brenda insisted that no one yammer on about strategy or get paranoid or negative around her. Rather than playing the game outwardly, Brenda wanted everyone to mirror her calm overconfidence and follow her lead. Brenda was the anti-Jimmy Johnson: no apparent strategy, no words of wisdom, no comforting assurances for her closest allies, just shrugging and sighing.

In other words, "Survivor: Nicaragua" was really starting to suck.

But then, on Thursday night, the tide start turning. Holly says that Brenda is a threat, and she wants her gone. Benry also wants Brenda gone. Dan, wincing and grabbing his bad knees, agrees. The big surprise, though, is that NaOnka, former Brenda ally, takes her own former enemy Fabio aside, and tells him that everyone else wants Brenda gone.

Loyal puppy dog Chase tells Brenda that everyone wants her gone. And what does she do? She shrugs and sighs and basically says that campaigning to save herself is beneath her and against her personal philosophy, which amounts to something along the lines, "I rule, therefore I should continue to rule."

Best of all, the immunity challenge requires players to support their weight by holding onto a longer and longer rope, testing their strength and endurance. The final two to battle it out? Huge young country boy Chase and little 56-year-old country woman Jane. Finally, Chase falls, and Jane is the winner! A victory for unpathetic old people everywhere!

At tribal council, Brenda tells Sash to give her the immunity idol using only her big brown eyes, but instead Sash gives her the Heisman. Almost everyone, including Chase and Sash, votes Brenda out. Now we see how far shrugging and sighing gets you in this game.

Episodes like this one demonstrate exactly why "Survivor" has survived all these years. After weeks of predictable, depressing developments, there's an unexpected uprising, and the whole season is transformed. Next week, a whole new game begins, because all of the preexisting alliances have been tossed out the window in one fell swoop. Meanwhile, all of our prejudices have been overturned: Oldster Holly turns out to be sane, sidekick Sash turns out to have a mind of his own, dimbulb Fabio turns out to be much smarter than he at first appeared, and oldster Jane turns out to be the toughest of them all.

This is what we want from reality TV: We want to be surprised by real people. We want to think we have them figured out, only to peel off new layers and discover new strengths, new weaknesses, new peculiarities, and new charms. Somehow, against all odds, "Survivor" delivers.



* Heather Havrilesky is Salon's TV critic and author of the rabbit blog. Her memoir, "Disaster Preparedness," is due from Riverhead Books in December 2010. More Heather Havrilesky
 
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