Survivor China

[Ontariobear]

But that's exactly what a good preview is supposed to do. Either Peih Gee wins immunity again next week or she's gone.

 

[falconfan]

Denise is such a fucking idiot. If it went to the tie breaker and Todd was gone then she'd just let Amanda/Courtney face off with PG/Erik. None of them would go after her. If Erik was gone after the tie breaker, they'd be mad at her but they'd still try to get rid of PG before her and she'd be in the same spot. Probably an even better spot since 3 people would be angry with her so they might consider taking her to the finals since they now see her as a threat because she hasn't angered anyone.

PG had another advantage with the Chinese trivia.

OK I let it slide last time Surge but just because the girl is Chinese doesn't mean she knows if they invented barbed wire or not. I know nothing about British "culture" other than American stereotypes and I'm primarily of English descent. So just because you're ethinically from one culture doesn't mean you're aware of it.


Also Denise should've tried to make a final three pack with Courtney and Amanda to me that would be smart.

 

[falconfan]

Ugh! They should have taken Turd out this week and Erik next week. I hope Amanda is successfully able to turn on Turd next week.

PG and Amanda in the finals would be GREAT because it would actually be a cliffhanger before the votes are read, since a good case could be made for both of them.

Totally disagree dude. That might be more fun to watch but come on. Why would they narrow the gap from 4 on 2 to 3 on 2... that's just dangerous. Also I still find Erik and PG highly dangerous jury threats. It's a smart move to take PG out first chance possible and it was a smart move of depriving her of her only ally. PG first than Todd. That's the smart way. When you take out Todd you also take out the safety you had in knowing he would take you.

 

[bostonboy20]

too bad Erik didn't win....but thank god now I don't have to watch anymore...lol....no offense to y'all I just am over Survivor after like the 5th season...I only sporadically watched this season cause my friend is friends w/ Erik

but since I have watched a bit...I'd like to see Denise, Amanda and PG in the final three

 

[Riff87]

WTF?! PG is Chinese, but it doesn't mean that she knows China trivia. Her ethnicity has nothing to do with her winning...

I'm sure Shii Ann and Clarence both should've won Thailand and Africa respectively because Shii Ann is Asian and Clarence is African American...

*rolls eyes*

Do you hear how stupid that sounds?! It's dumb and doesn't make any sense, just like PG advancing because it's Chinese trivia and shes Chinese.

PG is my favourite Survivor China contestant. I am rooting for her to the end.

 

[nathan482]

I think she did have an advantage.. Its clear that she knew some stuff about the culture from an earlier challenge I believe. I don't think the person said she has an advantage to win the game, but with that challenge I feel she had one.

 

[falconfan]

Falcon, if they had taken out Todd, Amanda, Courtney and Denise would still be the majority (3 against 2) and while PG or Erik may -- MAY -- be able to get jury votes, HELLO, none of them can win against Todd. I mean I think he's a stinking pile of poo but these folks have been fooled into thinking he's a "mastermind", a "student of the game" and as the architect of the alliance that has dominated the game, he will easily inherit all that respect.

If Todd and PG are in the final two against Amanda OR Courtney PG will win. She'll have Jamie's vote, Erik's, Jean Robert's, and probably James's. I think your really discounting PG as a threat. She has a totally legitimate claim to having been the most successful. She's won the most immunities. She's lasted in the minority. She's always been seen as a mastermind (A mediocre one as she is)... she's a serious threat and I don't think Amanda, Courtney or Denise could beat her. Winning is great but first you gotta get there. If they got rid of Todd they'd jeopradize even getting there. Todd might be hard to beat but it wouldn't be in his best interest to betray anyone. PG could cut off who ever she wants at this point. She has no loyalty to anyone. Todd was the better bet to keep around than Erik.

 

[falconfan]

See but I think Denise is far less likely to win than PG. Period. I think PF has a much bigger risk of winning than you're giving her credit it for.

Also who says Amanda gets the credit for ousting James OR Todd. The jury is not at camp. They don't know who's behind what and Amanda has done a good job at camoflauge. They could very easily write that off as PG being persuasive.

 

[falconfan]

Also I just get the sense that PG will rock the inevitable final 4 endurance challenge

 

[aijalon18]

i may be in the minority but i'm rooting for PG. ever since she had to contend with that bossy douchebag at the beginning i've been a fan. she also actually made some big strategic moves with her original tribe. whereas someone like todd just had the luck of having numbers and being told about the idols. i think it's amazing how long she's lasted with her old team backstabbing her, having no numbers, and everyone trying to get rid of her.

todd was the weakest guy on the cast who often sat out of challenges because of numbers. courtney's no better than todd. denise is just denise. amanda was actually a fierce competitor, who contributed a lot to challenges and engineered the james flip which was pivotal. they would have never gotten rid of him otherwise

 

[falconfan]

If Amanda believes PG is a bigger threat than Denise, then she should definitely take Denise. She still seems to think (and I agree) that Todd is her biggest threat though and for that he needs to go.

And um, Amanda can tell the jury she ousted Todd and James. If she gets Todd out next week and Denise is on the jury, she'll know this is true. And everyone who voted out James knows it was Amanda's idea as well.

And James is NOT voting for PG. He HATES her.

Just because she says it doesn't mean the jury will believe her. I mean that's what the person who gets no votes always say. They're always just like I had a larger influence than you thought and people just roll their eyes.


And I refuse to route for PG just like I refused to route for Ozzy. PG made an extremely idiotic play and she needs to reap what she sowed.

 

[falconfan]

I just had a fantasy about being gangbanged by Aaron and Colby...mmm...

So you've been routing around in my mind have you

 

[aijalon18]

Just because she says it doesn't mean the jury will believe her. I mean that's what the person who gets no votes always say. They're always just like I had a larger influence than you thought and people just roll their eyes.


And I refuse to route for PG just like I refused to route for Ozzy. PG made an extremely idiotic play and she needs to reap what she sowed.

what idiotic play did PG make? i mean no one plays a perfect game. at least she's playing and at least she's outlasted everyone else from her tribe. everyone else just hides behind the fact that they have numbers. i think she's the best female competitor this season, her only mistake is she screws up the social aspect of the game. she's the only one willing to take risks. sometimes they pay off sometimes they don't.

 

[falconfan]

what idiotic play did PG make? i mean no one plays a perfect game. at least she's playing and at least she's outlasted everyone else from her tribe. everyone else just hides behind the fact that they have numbers. i think she's the best female competitor this season, her only mistake is she screws up the social aspect of the game. she's the only one willing to take risks. sometimes they pay off sometimes they don't.

That stupid lets throw the challenges so two weeks in the future two people who we haven't even discussed this with might jump from the majority to a tie situation and maybe try and help us and then even worse she didn't even stick to her plan (which would've through an immunity idol wound up hurting her but she didn't know that) and you can't abandon a plan like that half way through it's shooting yourself in the freakin foot.

 

[Epica75]

And I really hope Turd doesn't win. He basically GAVE James two idols. Dude thinks he's the smartest player ever but he's really not. You're not King of the Game, Todd, you're just a big ole Queen.

i really don't understand the hate for Todd. "you're just a big ole queen"? dude, you're on a gay board. There are gays that act more masculine and some that are more feminine, but it's all good. If you have a problem with guys who are not "straight" enough for you, then that's a problem you have to deal with i guess.

As for the 2 idols, if you've watched survivor before, you'll notice that people with immunity idols are TARGETS because they have the immunities. And how do you win someone's trust? giving someone 2 idols will surely help your chances when that particular person has to decide if they keep you or not.

I don't think Todd has played the perfect game, nor has Amanda, who love it or not, will have to be put in front of the fact that she was second fiddle to the FIRST fiddle who is still in the game (if they both make it to final 3).. so who has done more.. the person who's in front of the line and a target and survived it, or the person who has hidden in the shadow of that person?

Right now, i like both of them and i like Denise.. i would hope they would be the final 3.

 

[falconfan]

i really don't understand the hate for Todd. "you're just a big ole queen"? dude, you're on a gay board. There are gays that act more masculine and some that are more feminine, but it's all good. If you have a problem with guys who are not "straight" enough for you, then that's a problem you have to deal with i guess.

As for the 2 idols, if you've watched survivor before, you'll notice that people with immunity idols are TARGETS because they have the immunities. And how do you win someone's trust? giving someone 2 idols will surely help your chances when that particular person has to decide if they keep you or not.

I don't think Todd has played the perfect game, nor has Amanda, who love it or not, will have to be put in front of the fact that she was second fiddle to the FIRST fiddle who is still in the game (if they both make it to final 3).. so who has done more.. the person who's in front of the line and a target and survived it, or the person who has hidden in the shadow of that person?

Right now, i like both of them and i like Denise.. i would hope they would be the final 3.

No... Immunity idols only make you a target if you run around camp telling everyone about them. Yul and Earl both won and guess what they both had... that's right an immunity idol. And Todd hasn't done anything. The only thing that he did was get Jean-Robert off and that was just a DUMB move. Amanda got James off. You certainly can't attribute the loss of Jamie, Sherea, Erik or Frosti off those were clearly group decisions. If anything James and Denise because of their uneasiness about Courtney were teh driving force between Frosti's ouster. And The only other person who was voted from that tribe before the merge, Leslie, was totally the result of Aaron. Todd just talks alot about how much of a mastermind he is. If you run around putting a target on your own back you should pat yourself on the back talking about how much you've avoided it.

 

[Epica75]

No... Immunity idols only make you a target if you run around camp telling everyone about them. Yul and Earl both won and guess what they both had... that's right an immunity idol. And Todd hasn't done anything. The only thing that he did was get Jean-Robert off and that was just a DUMB move. .

No it wasn't.. JR was untrustworthy, and would have turned at the first occasion because he had no friends in his original tribe, and he's not stupid enough to think he had. Kicking him off was a perfectly good move.. and being a "poker player", you can never know if he's lying or not. He's not one to trust. Even James who was his closest ally at the beginning was not trusting him. It was a perfectly legit move to kick his ass off.

As for the immunity, having 2 at the same time put a HUGE target on James. I don't know if he would have been the center of attention had he only had one. And Todd might have been a target if he had one. What if you have one immunity and people know about it. (cuz Amanda and frosti knew). As long as one person knows.. you're in trouble.
IMO

 

[falconfan]

No it wasn't.. JR was untrustworthy, and would have turned at the first occasion because he had no friends in his original tribe, and he's not stupid enough to think he had. Kicking him off was a perfectly good move.. and being a "poker player", you can never know if he's lying or not. He's not one to trust. Even James who was his closest ally at the beginning was not trusting him. It was a perfectly legit move to kick his ass off.

As for the immunity, having 2 at the same time put a HUGE target on James. I don't know if he would have been the center of attention had he only had one. And Todd might have been a target if he had one. What if you have one immunity and people know about it. (cuz Amanda and frosti knew). As long as one person knows.. you're in trouble.
IMO

No it was a horrible move. Gamewise JR was about three to five weeks behind everyone else. Everyone hated him. No one respected him. It would be a miracle if he could win an immunity challenge. He was the perfect dead weight to drag on into the final two/three. There really was no reason to turn on him other than he came up with teh same idea as Todd and Todd wanted to feel special and like the mastermind. JR was horrible at the game and he thought he was amazing so it was obvious he wasn't holding back he was just wrong. If you bring JR and Courtney you know they're not going to click up against you because they really hated each other that much. You jsut need to keep feeding him crackers and telling him that everything is perfect and he would be fine. That was the dumbest vote ever and it accomplished nothing except narrowing the numbers gap and throwing away a perfectly good chance to get rid of PG.

 

[Epica75]

depends on how you see the game.. i prefer to bring loyal votes like Denise instead of bringing swing votes like JR (who would not hesitate 1 second in swinging).

we see the game differently.. and obviously for Todd, it's brought him this far... so maybe the horrible play is in your head.. or what you would have LIKED to see.

 

[falconfan]

depends on how you see the game.. i prefer to bring loyal votes like Denise instead of bringing swing votes like JR (who would not hesitate 1 second in swinging).

we see the game differently.. and obviously for Todd, it's brought him this far... so maybe the horrible play is in your head.. or what you would have LIKED to see.

I can't stand JR. Why would've I liked to see that? It's just a worse play. Now PG is still around and engineering his downfall. Something JR most certainly could never do.