The Christina Aguilera Mega-thread

[J-23]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

By the way, for everyone slamming her for taking so long between albums, have you forgotten that she got married and had a kid AND did her first film around the same time she started work on Bionic? I'm sure alot of her "career time" is now spent being a wife/mom. Jeez.

But it's not as though these songs require any real thought or effort. I mean, Britney's tracks from Blackout demonstrate a higher quality and production value, and they were hastily slapped together while she was experiencing a nervous breakdown. Do you honestly think it takes half a decade to pen a masterwork like "All the boys think it's cake when they taste my woohoo"?

Actually, ALOT of people (including myself) thought Gaga was copying Christina (particularly her look) when she first came into the public eye.

Yes, because many people don't keep their finger on the pulse of the music industry. "Just Dance" was released in April 2008; "Keeps Gettin' Better" in September 2008. It's simple math.

The idea that Christina was/is copying Gaga (regarding her music or her image) is ridiculous to me, because Christina was doing exactly what she's doing now years before Gaga released anything! Christina has many advantages over Gaga (for one, she can actually sing), so there's no need for her to copy her. Yes, electronic and dance music has become alot more popular in recent years - but Gaga is far from the founder of dance music (or bleached hair).

Again, nobody claimed that Gaga invented European-influenced dance-pop, but it's noteworthy that once she brought it to the American market, Christina (ever the brainless fad-hopper) attempted to do the exact same thing. What happened to her personal identity as an artist?

And as for the laughable idea that Gaga can't sing... Well, I refuse to dignify that with a response because it's clear that you've never listened to her albums. And Christina is far from an impeccable vocalist; her voice lacks any semblance of soul or emotion whatsoever. She sings about self-esteem in the same tone that she sings about her abusive childhood in the same way that she sings about kissing girls in the club. She's an automaton with no real sense of music.

LAME! Most everyone thought that woman was a damn drag queen when they first saw her. That doesn't necessarily mean she was dissing her (or her fans). In case you didn't know, just after Perez Hilton thought it would get him attention by recently telling everyone Christina is copying Gaga, Christina was the first (and only) person involved to issue a statement saying how sexist and unnecessary it is to pit two female artists against one another. In the same statement, she called Gaga "great" and said she appreciated her as an artist.

Christina fans should recognize that comparing ANYBODY to a drag queen is very dangerous territory. I mean, really?

And, once again, your information is wrong. Christina was NOT the only person who made a statement regarding the feud. Gaga, a TRUE lady, was quite diplomatic about the whole situtation, stating "I don’t take offense to it" and "I have no enemies." Unlike Christina who just recently started up with her again in a cheap effort to stir up publicity for her feeble attempt at an album. What an insufferable wench.

 

[Simon Spark]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

And as for the laughable idea that Gaga can't sing... Well, I refuse to dignify that with a response because it's clear that you've never listened to her albums.

You're right, I don't. But I've been tortured by her fans' car CD players enough to know, compared to Christina, she is extremely limited as far as her vocals and range. I'm not saying Gaga is a terrible singer; Christina just blows her away. If you want to talk about lyrics, Christina has addressed many subjects while all I've heard from Gaga is sex (which isn't necessarily a bad thing...but if that's all you stand for, then there's a huge problem) and the glamorization of fame (yeah, a great message for today's already shallow/superficial youth!! ).

And Christina is far from an impeccable vocalist; her voice lacks any semblance of soul or emotion whatsoever.

This is a joke, right? If not, I suggest you unplug your ears, because she is quite possibly the most soulful singer of this generation. Have you not heard "Impossible"/"Voice Within"/"Walk Away"/"I'm OK" from Stripped or "Hurt"/"Makes Me Want to Pray" from Back to Basics or her cover of "At Last" (among others)??? Hell, even her debut was filled with soul no scrawny little teenage white girl has any business having!

We could go on for days debating who copied whose look, but honestly that's just silly and rather pointless (for the record, though, Christina has been experimenting with her image from day one). As for your other comments, I think they've already been addressed at least once in this thread. Speaking for myself, I actually detest modern pop music, but I am a huge Christina fan/supporter - and that speaks volumes about her talent and artistry.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Christina's ballads are always solid, I wasn't talking about them.

The deluxe edition songs are unquestionably better and unique in contrast to the generic songs on the standard edition. She wanted something 'bionic', not 'generic'. This album would have been huge if all of the commercial songs weren't played to death over the last four years.

Aguilera doesn't need commercial-friendly, generic and shitty songs. She has already established a solid fan base. She can now sell CDs off name alone...so why she is teaming up with people like Polow blows my mind. The Ladytron, Sia, Goldfrapp songs...that's what we were all hoping for. Something fresh from a major artist.

The album is receiving garbage reviews...which is really sad because we all know she's better than this album.

Okay, that's a better way of stating it. The songs on the deluxe edition are a huge contrast to the standard edition; however, you still cannot say that they are better, because of that alone. My point about a song like Monday Morning or Birds of Prey is they are generic, but they are not the current trend. However, they are far from innovative.

I definitely agree with you about her name being able to carry her as far as selling. I have not read any of the reviews, but I do not base my ideas off them anyway, not to say that you do.

 

[matt1980111]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

So I'v spent the entire morning with this album and I really enjoyed it. There were a few songs I'll probably not listen to again (Bionic, Elastic Love and Sex for Breakfast) but there are quite a few amazing songs.

My two favorites are You Lost Me and Little Dreamer. You Lost Me has got to be the best ballad she ever produced. It's so raw and emotional.

I don't know what it is about Little Dreamer that I love so much. Her vocals are much more reserved than she's used to doing but I works. The music and her vocals make something very special imo.

Of course, she has other standouts like Lift Me Up and Birds of Prey. All in all, it's a great album. I really enjoyed 90% of it. That's more than I can say for most music out nowadays.

I'll be listening to it for quite some time.

 

[G-Lexington]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

I sat through the album today. And "sat through" pretty much sums it up. I won't be back.

Although "You are, mommy" was one of the funniest/god-awful moments I've heard in some time.

Lex

 

[Simon Spark]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

And, once again, your information is wrong. Christina was NOT the only person who made a statement regarding the feud. Gaga, a TRUE lady, was quite diplomatic about the whole situtation, stating "I don’t take offense to it" and "I have no enemies." Unlike Christina who just recently started up with her again in a cheap effort to stir up publicity for her feeble attempt at an album. What an insufferable wench.

I hadn't heard she spoke about it, too. Excuse my lack of Gaga knowledge.

I did read Christina's OUT article, though - and calling Gaga a "newcomer" and saying she's "fun to look at" still don't equal talking shit about her. She is technically a newcomer and why else would anyone wear the crap she wears if not to be looked at (isn't that her "art" after all)?? By repeatedly comparing them, it's clear the writer is the one ready to start a feud between the two, not Christina. And I believe her when she says she's out of the loop as far as what's popular - if you're busy working and being a new mom, it's hard to keep up to date with pop culture.

 

[EqualsThree]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

All this album does is give Christina fans something to appreciate/love after all this time.

She won't be winning over any new fans with this album, hopefully her next one will though.

 

[spice up your life]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

iTunes chart update:
#1 The Netherlands
#1 Luxembourg
#1 Germany
#1 Italy
#1 Spain
#1 UK
#1 New Zealand
#1 Mexico

iTunes USA:

Bionic Deluxe #3 (=)
Bionic STD #5 (+10)
Bionic Deluxe #28 (-3)
Bionic STD #105

 

[EqualsThree]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

^ Holy shit it went to #1 in New Zealand? Didn't know that

 

[J-23]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

You're right, I don't. But I've been tortured by her fans' car CD players enough to know, compared to Christina, she is extremely limited as far as her vocals and range. I'm not saying Gaga is a terrible singer; Christina just blows her away.

I guess I'm just not fooled by Christina's tiresome vocal gymnastics. She can do all the unnecessary runs she wants, and it still won't make her a captivating performer. If the ability to sustain a note automatically made a person a good pop artist then opera singers would rule the Top 40. But they don't, which is why Christina's fanbase is so rapidly deteriorating... People are sick of her.

If you want to talk about lyrics, Christina has addressed many subjects while all I've heard from Gaga is sex (which isn't necessarily a bad thing...but if that's all you stand for, then there's a huge problem) and the glamorization of fame (yeah, a great message for today's already shallow/superficial youth!! ).

If the only songs you've heard from Gaga are ones about sex, then I'm not sure how to respond since you're claiming to be uninformed about 50% of the artists being discussed. Give "Again Again," "Brown Eyes," "Speechless," or "So Happy I Could Die" a listen.

As for her songs about fame, it's called satire. This is a nice link that one of my teachers once shared with me: http://www.virtualsalt.com/satire.htm. Maybe that'll help you out.

This is a joke, right? If not, I suggest you unplug your ears, because she is quite possibly the most soulful singer of this generation. Have you not heard "Impossible"/"Voice Within"/"Walk Away"/"I'm OK" from Stripped or "Hurt"/"Makes Me Want to Pray" from Back to Basics or her cover of "At Last" (among others)???

Yep, heard all of them and was unimpressed by all of them. Her mindless, predictable vocals undermine any sense of sincerity or vulnerability that those songs possess. It's sad to see her drive them into the ground that way.

I did read Christina's OUT article, though - and calling Gaga a "newcomer" and saying she's "fun to look at" still don't equal talking shit about her. She is technically a newcomer and why else would anyone wear the crap she wears if not to be looked at (isn't that her "art" after all)?? By repeatedly comparing them, it's clear the writer is the one ready to start a feud between the two, not Christina. And I believe her when she says she's out of the loop as far as what's popular - if you're busy working and being a new mom, it's hard to keep up to date with pop culture.

The fact that she cackled while making those remarks leads me to believe that they were anything but innocent observations. And yes, Gaga is relatively new... Before hitting it big, she paid her dues playing in bars and clubs while waiting tables to make ends meet. Christina, on the other hand, was picked by Disney to become America's next perfectly-placed pop product. This is probably why she has no artistic identity and is forced to plagiarize other performers.

 

[Simon Spark]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

It's obvious we disagree here. I, by no means, am trying to convert you or anyone else into being a Christina Aguilera fan - and I'm honestly not even trying to slag Lady Gaga. The bottom line is I simply think the former possesses more talent and substance than the latter. Yes, I am well aware of what satire means. I realize, by replying to you, it seems as if I'm interested in this HER vs. HER debate, but really it bores me to tears. Of course not everyone is going to like this album (even her fans have rather schizophrenic opinions on which songs are good/bad); I'm just saying I happen to think it's amazing. You clearly don't. And that's OK.

 

[modernaire]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Just laughed through that MTV perfromance with a friend. Light-up hearts on her panties was supposed to be the big WOW?!?!

She's such a dork for that. The performance was incredibly lazy...she sat/stood through most of it. While she was standing there lip-synching, she could've atleast been dancing! I don't wanna rain on her fan's parade, but her increasing irrelevance is palpable from that performance....just awful.

 

[samsonite]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Chart prognosticators are saying she'll debut at #3 on Billboard's albums chart behind the new Twilight soundtrack and the Glee album. They're expecting her to sell anywhere from 100-120k. If that comes to fruition, that is pretty darn sad! LOL.

 

[aijalon18]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

it's definitely a solid album. But she's releasing all the wrong singles. So I dont think it'll win her any new fans. Plus her look for this era is HORRIBLE. It doesnt even really go with bionic. I really wish she would have had brown hair. That way a lot of the Gaga shit would end. But she seems to think very oddly.

 

[matt1980111]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

^I agree. I still think there's time to save this album. The key is the next single and video. Dye the hair and do something non skanky....she'll be fine.

 

[aijalon18]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

^Did you see those pics from the set of Burleseque. She looked so pretty with that dark blonde weave/wig. Way better than anything Bionic-related thus far. Even people that hate her thought she looked great like that.

 

[Ekim23]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

^Did you see those pics from the set of Burleseque. She looked so pretty with that dark blonde weave/wig. Way better than anything Bionic-related thus far. Even people that hate her thought she looked great like that.

her B2Basics era was her best anyway

 

[DigitalFudge]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

Excuse me


Lets get glam.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGYjh1jybYQ[/ame]

 

[bostonboy20]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

here's how Perez Hilton thinks Christina can fix herself....he doesn't really give many great tips...though he thinks he's giving her the holy grail....

can't figure out how to embed his videos on here so here's the link

http://perezhilton.com/tv/How_Christina_Aguilera_Can_Turn_Things_Around/?ptvid=9593c4b766005

 

[matt1980111]

Re: Aguilera: Bionic [Spring 2010]

^I don't know anyone in entertainment as annoying as this talentless hack is (um...well besides Speidi). I don't know what I'm more insulted by: the fact that this jerkoff is famous or the fact that this jerkoff thinks he has enough knowledge and talent to advise someone on how to get their career on track (um...have you listened to that bum he's promoting?.

Note to Perez: If you weren't fat, gay and rude, you wouldn't be famous.