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The expanding Israel-Hamas war

The U.S. response is rightly being counted as collusion by the Arab states. as well as many others, including lots of university students here in the U.S.

Issuing statements by the Secretary of Defense, or the Vice President about stern warnings is total bullshit.

The U.S. and Israel are ping-ponging deflective statements while Israel basically bombs a General Sherman path across Gaza.

Americans should be very attentive, for this is the beginning of us being drawn into the next war, be that with Israel's attackers now, or simply foreign enemies who will exploit this and provoke us to retaliate.

Our Israel policy is wrong, and I, for one, believe it is due to Biden's political fragility and his attempt to look strong in the eyes of the warmongers here in the States. And Democrats in the Senate will be powerless to put on the brakes for the bill, as they will have to horse trade to get the Ukraine aid through.
 
Meanwhile, as you can see on the updated maps, Israel is now moving forward with the next part of its strategy....to divide Gaza into 3 zones. Dividing it this way will give them greater control over movement and gradually isolate the communities in the centre, pushing Hamas into a smaller area in the south.

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And it appears that IDF is also moving to subdivide northern Gaza into quadrants or separated zones in order to squeeze the remainder of Hamas into ever smaller zones with chance for escape.

At this point, in northern Gaza, Hamas is beating their drum every time they take out a tank or fire one more missile into Israel...they must be mad zealots not to realize the game is over and that each and every one of them will be wiped out. The tragedy is that every one of these 'martyrs' seems to have no compunction about seeing dozens or hundreds of innocent people killed in the process of eliminating one Hamas unit.
 
Today, maps show the IDF in control of an area in the south sector of the Gaza strip adjacent to the border. They are moving to interdict the traffic on the main highway that runs from Sinai up through Gaza. This will force more and more of the Hamas and al Qassam vehicles off the main roads, reducing the ability to re-position. Again today...while Israel continues a more or less scorched earth campaign , al Qassam is excited to announce that they have successfully targeted a tank. No sense of reality at all.

In the north, it would appear that Hezbollah forces are apparently spent...the barrage of missiles from Lebanon seems to have ceased. Unlike Hamas in Gaza though, Hezbollah in Lebanon will not be obliterated in this war and likely will absorb the remnants of Hamas and al Qassam for the next generation war.
 
Israel claims it has killed another commander of Hamas...Abdel Al Aziz Rantisi...in northern Gaza.

The eradication of the command leadership of Hamas, Al Qud and Al Qassam will bring an earlier conclusion to the war...the fighters may carry on small scale guerilla actions but co-ordinated attacks will become less possible without senior command.
 
BTW: It is not a Hamas- "war". It was a terrible terror attack...Words are important!
 
Mokba and Iran really miscalculated.

Instead of tying up resources and spreading the war into the middle east, their sponsored attack on Israel will essentially doom Hamas.

The mass surrenders of Jabaliya are only the beginning.

They should all pray that their God and Israel will be merciful.

I should point out that all of these men are likely not terrorists...they are likely demanding the surrender of every man in Jabaliya and surrender of arms.

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and Palestine Square.... recently under Hamas control. IDF have obliterated any underground networks of tunnels and refuge areas.

All of Gaza City will look like this...the equivalent of being bombed back into the stone age.

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This map shows IDF with more extensive control over North Gaza but less in the South.

Once the North is secured, Expect a big sweep through the south with lots more bombing until Hamas and Al Qassam positions are wiped off the map.

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And again today...Al Qassam is crowing about targeting a tank.

Jesus Christ.

Did Gaza really think that Iran or rrZZia would swoop in to fight Israel?

And to be really blunt, I suspect that Egypt, Jordan, the Sauds and the rest of the middle eastern regimes will be glad to be rid of Gaza in the realpolitick world.

These people never stood a chance and with their obliteration dies the last tiny hope for a Palestinian state.
 
It certainly looks like an act of desperation on the part of Hamas. Saudi’s talking to Israel, Iran talking to the Saudi’s no one is talking to Hamas. If knuckling under is an unacceptable option then what’s left but to strike out? Better a dead terrorist than an irrelevant one.
 
I don't think there is any Hamas left to talk to.

They are essentially silent.

I think they are finished as a force. There seems to be no spokesperson for their 'government' or militias.

Over the last couple of days, it has only been Al Qassam firing rockets and exploding bombs, etc. and taking credit for it.
 
Israel has now completed their path across the southern Gaza strip and reached the sea, so Gaza has effectively been partitioned into smaller zones that can be controlled more easily. They also are moving to further sub-divide the south, leaving Al Qassam less and less ability to manoeuvre.

With this increased control, Israel has opened another route for humanitarian aid into Gaza. Hopefully the bombing and raids will soon be over.

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I saw that the film Oppenheimer is scheduled to open in Japan this week. Given the movies subject matter one wonders what the demand might be. We firebombed Tokyo until little was left standing and then dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, you might label it a Nakba. Japan lost a war in 1945 and the Arabs lost a war in 1948. Japan accepted its loss the arabs did not even though the Japanese had been independent for over a thousand yrs and now had to accept being ruled while the Arabs spent most of those thousand yrs being ruled by someone else.

How is It that the Japanese followed the rules of their occupiers while the Palestinians did not, was it a difference in culture or leadership and why did the Japanese have a desire to rejoin the world while the Palestinians are content sitting around Gaza looking pathetic with a Blanche DuBois foreign policy of depending on the kindness of strangers?

On the face of it what happened to Japan was worse than what happened to the Palestinians, wars are lost it has happened to others but which is harder to explain the Japanese acceptance of their defeat or the decades long refusal of the Palestinians to accept theirs?
 
Israel is reporting that flooding the Hamas tunnels with seawater appears to be a success.
 
The whole hostage thing is bizarre.

With Israel practically carpet-bombing Gaza to powder, how did anyone expect the hostages to not be killed in the process?

Although no one can blame their families for trying, the number of hostages, if alive, pales in comparison to the slaughter of innocents by Israel, so have already been counted as expendable by Israel.

Americans are trying not to watch the news of the massacre, but once our policy brings it back to us, our folly will be rued too late.
 
Norri said:
I saw that the film Oppenheimer is scheduled to open in Japan this week. Given the movies subject matter one wonders what the demand might be. We firebombed Tokyo until little was left standing and then dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, you might label it a Nakba. Japan lost a war in 1945 and the Arabs lost a war in 1948. Japan accepted its loss the arabs did not even though the Japanese had been independent for over a thousand yrs and now had to accept being ruled while the Arabs spent most of those thousand yrs being ruled by someone else.

How is It that the Japanese followed the rules of their occupiers while the Palestinians did not, was it a difference in culture or leadership and why did the Japanese have a desire to rejoin the world while the Palestinians are content sitting around Gaza looking pathetic with a Blanche DuBois foreign policy of depending on the kindness of strangers?

On the face of it what happened to Japan was worse than what happened to the Palestinians, wars are lost it has happened to others but which is harder to explain the Japanese acceptance of their defeat or the decades long refusal of the Palestinians to accept theirs?
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Both the peoples and their plights seem dissimilar in almost every way.

Japan clung to isolationism and a form of feudalism for many centuries. The Arabs were famous for being the traders who bridged the Orient and the Occident, so we ineherently more outward looking.

Japan was dragged into the commerce and opening by Europeans, and immediately resolved to catch up in many ways after the stagnation of its isolation. This industrialization eventually led to its disastrous imperial war that ended with humiliation in 1945. But they had been unified by the psychology of the emperor and their previous gains.

The Arabs had not been one people, but under a confederation of sorts during the Ottoman rule. After that, the various countries were largely the supplier vassals of Europe. When the British made the ghastly mistake of establishing Israel, the scattered Arabs were suddenly given motivation to form an Anti-Crusade to push back the occupiers. That they were outgunned by the West did not change the resentment, but ensured it.

The Japanese were not pushed off their land. The Arabs were and are.

The Japanese were not required to let the Koreans or Chinese possess Tokyo or any part of the Japanese Islands. The Arabs were forced into ghettos and into ever-increasing suppression.

The Japanese were horrific in their massacres in Manchuokuo and across the Pacific, so when the U.S. finally dealt decisive blows by carpet bombing and using nuclear strikes, the Japanese may have seen it as the fruits of their failed initiatives. Unlike the Chinese who had rebelled against the forced Cantons, Japan was just in a drive to expand for resources, not simply push out the round-eyed devils.

The Arabs, despite the Crusades or because of them, were not expansionists in the Industrial Era, so still see Europeans as both devils and paying customers in an odd mix of conflicting roles.
 
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