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On-Topic The NRA in Disarray

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The headlines from this story are pretty eye-popping...


The N.R.A.’s Longtime C.F.O. Was Caught Embezzling Before Joining the Organization, Former Colleagues Say [New Yorker]

NRA money flowed to board members amid allegedly lavish spending by top officials and vendors [WaPo]

Looks like they've been siphoning off millions into their own pockets and the pockets of their cronies and relatives. Perhaps they should apply for jobs in the White House? They would fit in well there.

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It wouldn't be a bad thing.... if they were back to their original mission of being a gun safety organization... instead of a front organization whose purpose is to launder money for the gun industry.

Too late. They need to lose their exemption, convict the board and the officers, confiscate all property purchased with embezzled money, and sit on someone until they squeal about who's complicit in Congress.

That and the Russia thing - remember that?
 
^ Any organisation that contributed millions to political campaigns should not be tax exempt.
 
^ If the NRA is a non-profit organisation allowing it to be tax exempt, why does it had so much money of their own to throw at Trump? That, to me, sounds like 'for profit'.

^ For once and for all, the NRA should be stripped of tax free status.

It is a political organization. Pure and simple.


"The NRA" is actually a set of distinct organizations. One of those is basically a super-PAC, and those can throw money around pretty darned without limit. Others teach gun safety, train police, and more -- and those are both not-for-profit and apolitical.

This is one reason the ACLU is standing with the NRA in this: super-PAC money is regarded as "speech" and the ACLU resists any limits on speech.
 
...This is one reason the ACLU is standing with the NRA in this: super-PAC money is regarded as "speech" and the ACLU resists any limits on speech.

How much "speech" was used to pay for those plane trips to the Bahamas, the custom-made suits, the hotel rooms at the Four Seasons for LaPierre's niece and the 10,000-square-foot mansion for LaPierre? Or was that covered by the fees from the gun safety classes? ;)

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The NRA for awhile now is about making that whore Lapierre money. He'll take any dick willing to pay. it just so happens that the sleaze on the right has far more johns.

We shouldn't make the mistake of thinking that there is any kind of actual political or philosophical reason for the ass-licking Wayne likes to provide. He's just a whore and renewable energy doesn't pay - probably because it's not trying to fuck people over.

The real story here is that La Pierre was a nothing before he and the board agreed they needed a PR firm to run the fund-raising. That firm was Ackerman-McQueen, and they took La Pierre and made him a demagogue-like spokesman, training him in all the ways to stir people up, ghost-writing books for him to put his name on, building him into this hero image that convinced an awful lot of people. He was a crap public speaker until they got him coaches who pretty much tore his poor skills to shreds and re-trained him.

This relationship made La Pierre look good enough that his salary kept getting raised, while he essentially let Ackerman-McQueen take over running the NRA, effectively signing over his duties and serving as a figurehead. As money rolled in, Ackerman-McQueen got a chunk of it under standard fund-raising practices, and since money rolling in equates to success in the eyes of most Americans, Ackerman-McQueen was allowed to take over more and more of the political side of things.

Many NRA members realized over two decades ago that something was fishy, especially when LaPierre, guided by the PR firm, declined to push issues that could have been won and would have firmed up the Second Amendment, instead spinning things into more appeals for more money. Two different reform movements over the years were smacked down, and after each one -- as well as after some membership-driven moves to change the by-laws to make the organization more responsive to its members -- the Board was persuaded to propose changes which actually put even more power into the hands of the executive vice president, which has been La Pierre so long that few NRA members remember anyone different. Over time it's been made difficult to get anyone not a crony of La Pierre elected to the Board, turning that into a decent rubber-stamp outfit that would just lap up whatever Ackerman-McQueen fed La Pierre as his lines for the day.

So while La Pierre has certainly sucked up whatever perks that could be wrangled from the Board, and gone overboard taking advantage of them as this all went to his head, the real story is an ad agency hired to manage fund-raising built a money machine that had little to do with actually defending the Second Amendment and quite a lot to do with milking what they regarded as an unstoppable cash cow. And what's happening now was described as the inevitable outcome by some of the reform elements twenty-five years ago.

If you actually sit down and talk to NRA members, the stereotype breaks down quickly. Most of them are not opposed to regulation, are not political zealots, and are actually interested in protecting wildlife and the environment. But that doesn't make good T.V. so you only ever see slavering trailer trash showing their ass in public in the most ignorant way possible.

The NRA is actually quite effective in the realm of "protecting wildlife and the environment"; one of the sub-organizations is dedicated to that. But that, along with the fact that the NRA has gotten awards for advancing gun safety from respected organizations, doesn't play well for the media, any more than the fact that the NRA trains police or supports suits defending the FIrst Amendment.

For a long time I've asked why the NRA people I know who are complaining about the political wing are still sending them money, I always hear that the NRA does other things - well, now we know, it's doing shit but taking the cash. It didn't start out that way, but when you spread your legs for dirty sleaze, you get the clap.

No, it's doing a lot --but no one looks at all the good things when the big event of the PR-driven machine is always focused on money.
 
NRA is against background checks correct ??

No, it just points out that they accomplish absolutely nothing except to encourage criminals to steal guns (often from police officers) and/or make their own (which is becoming more and more common).

The NRA even fought for common-sense on the background check issue, pointing out that if it's to be useful then private sellers should be able to use it to check on people wanting to but their guns -- so if I wanted to sell a hunting rifle and Bob Mobber showed up to buy it, I'd be able to call in and find out if Bob was prohibited from owning one. The real travesty of Democrats killing that approach is that if I as a private citizen learned that Bob Mobber was a felon, I'd be able to call the sheriff on him immediately, but gun stores can't do that as it turns into a violation of constitutional rights! [In fact laws making background checks mandatory have made it impossible to prosecute felons for trying to buy guns; it's effectively a "get out of jail free" card for bad guys.

The NRA also keeps pushing for laws to require federal agencies to actually report information to the background check data base, something that would have stopped several mass killers in the last few years, but Democrats have opposed those efforts.
 
I'm not sure, but I think that if that whore Lapierre had the authority to spend the money, and just did so unethically, that's not criminal. I think all they are in trouble for is the disposition of their exemption status.

Which they're not likely to lose since the political side is a PAC, and those can do just about anything they want.

It really is time for this:

An Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:

Whereas only living, breathing human beings are capable of speech or other expression;

I. Only living, breathing citizens and legal residents of the United States have any rights pertaining to the political process;

organizations formed by living, breathing citizens and/or legal residents of the United States for the express and sole purpose of engaging in the political process, and funded solely by living, breathing citizens or legal residents of the United States, shall be deemed as those citizens and legal residents acting in concert.

II. Only living, breathing citizens and legal residents of any of the several states may participate in any fashion in the political process of their particular state.

III. In matters of law regarding or impacting citizens or legal residents of the United States, that interpretation or judgment which best upholds or strengthens the individual rights of citizens and legal residents shall prevail.
 
Isn't it REALLY interesting that, with secret police now asserting authoritarian powers, the NRA is nothing than crickets?

Their purported raison d'etre was arming themselves, to protect against an authoritarian government, because that cannot be allowed, and NRA "militia" would use their guns to stop a government takeover. It's happening right in front of their eyes.

The NRA isn't "nothing but crickets" -- they've been pointing to the fact that there have been very few peaceful protests in Portland because in fact mostly it's been rioting, attempted arson, attempted murder, vandalism, defacement of public property, and more. There have only been a couple of instances where the federal agents -- who aren't "secret police; they wear their insignia -- have gotten out of bounds, and there isn't enough information on those for anyone to make useful comments.

BTW, there's no "government takeover" to oppose, at least not with guns. Almost all the activity of federal agents has happened within easy throwing distance of the Mark A. Hatfield federal courthouse, and that has been aimed at stop the arson, etc. noted above. The only "takeover" happening is Trump's sending in (militarized) federal agents without consulting with the governor or the Portland mayor -- and that's not the sort of thing that can be opposed with guns.

The action that can be taken concerning that is being taken: Oregon is suing the federal agencies involved. I don't know that it will go anywhere, since the Constitution authorizes the protection of federal property, and the few instances of agents acting away from that property can be easily dismissed as agents acting badly. That's too bad, since a federal court with any respect for the Constitution would rule that federal agents defending federal property have to stay within the bounds of that property except to stop real threats (and ripping down plywood barricades meant to protect federal personnel isn't a real threat, besides which that was best met right there on the property), and must first request the governor of the state to act, and even then must coordinate with the local jurisdiction, which in this case would be Portland's mayor and police chief.
 
It wouldn't be a bad thing.... if they were back to their original mission of being a gun safety organization... instead of a front organization whose purpose is to launder money for the gun industry.

That gun industry claim is so far from the truth...

The NRA has the gun industry by the balls (maybe not after the current mess); companies are wary of doing anything to upset the NRA because the NRA has demonstrated the power to ruin a company.

Besides which, hardly any corporate money goes to the political side; they support the shooting ranges that teach gun safety to all ages, the gun safety programs in schools, police training, the wildlife/hunting advocacy, and such -- all the original NRA concerns.
 
The headlines from this story are pretty eye-popping...


The N.R.A.’s Longtime C.F.O. Was Caught Embezzling Before Joining the Organization, Former Colleagues Say [New Yorker]

NRA money flowed to board members amid allegedly lavish spending by top officials and vendors [WaPo]

Looks like they've been siphoning off millions into their own pockets and the pockets of their cronies and relatives. Perhaps they should apply for jobs in the White House? They would fit in well there.

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Most of those are standard practices. But remove the standard practices ones and the remaining look more than a bit fishy.

But even add them all up and they just begin to scratch the totals La Pierre has been involved in!
 
^ Any organisation that contributed millions to political campaigns should not be tax exempt.

The PAC laws cover it -- all PACs are tax-exempt, whether they support environmental issues, anti-racism, religious freedom, improved education, or individual rights.

But no PAC money should be allowed except what comes from individual citizens; no corporations, unions, churches, fraternal orders, or whatever, and donations to PACs should have a limit per individual donor -- billionaires shouldn't be able to set up a PAC and generate a list of supporters but then write 95% of the checks themselves.
 
How much "speech" was used to pay for those plane trips to the Bahamas, the custom-made suits, the hotel rooms at the Four Seasons for LaPierre's niece and the 10,000-square-foot mansion for LaPierre? Or was that covered by the fees from the gun safety classes? ;)

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Yeah, La Pierre's mansion is "speech"!

It says "I'm ripping you off and you keep cheering me!" (we need a "Sucker!!" emotie)

The Bahamas trips were one thing that started this show, as members noticed and complained -- and typically, the ad agency running the place moved to make it even harder to hold anyone accountable, pushing changes to the bylaws that made the Board even more a crony committee than before and changes harder to make unless the Board proposed it.
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BTW, by law, fees for gun safety classes can only go to the instructors and facilities providing the classes -- money from those only goes to the NRA in the form of those instructors keeping up their own training and certification.
 
"NRA stole $63 MILLION from its members,
proving gun ownership
does NOT protect you from being robbed."
 
Inexplicably La Pierre not been charged with any crime.
 
Inexplicably La Pierre not been charged with any crime.

If they do what they usually do, they'll start with charging lower level people, get them to plead and get them give evidence against the next layer up until they get to LaPierre. Trump's DOJ won't charge him with tax evasion, though. So that would probably have to wait until after the election.
 
Thanks. I've never paid any attention to the man previously--other than to note that he heads a disreputable and destructive organization--but he seems to be thoroughly despicable.
 
(From linked article)
Seeking to dissolve the NRA is the most aggressive sanction James could have sought against the not-for-profit organization, which James has jurisdiction over because it is registered in New York.


The NRA holds [itself] out as a charitable organization, but in fact, [it] really [is] a terrorist organization.

Letitia ‘Tish’ James on Becoming New York’s Next Attorney General (Ebony; October 2018)

Letitia James assumed office as the Attorney General of New York on January 1, 2019.​


New York Consolidated Laws, Not-For-Profit Corporation Law - NPC § 1101. Attorney-general's action for judicial dissolution

(a) The attorney-general may bring an action for the dissolution of a corporation upon one or more of the following grounds:

(1) That the corporation procured its formation through fraudulent misrepresentation or concealment of a material fact.

(2) That the corporation has exceeded the authority conferred upon it by law, or has violated any provision of law whereby it has forfeited its charter, or carried on, conducted or transacted its business in a persistently fraudulent or illegal manner, or by the abuse of its powers contrary to public policy of the state has become liable to be dissolved.

Attorney General James alleges in her complaint that the NRA violated multiple laws, including the laws governing the NRA’s charitable status, false reporting on annual filings with the IRS and with the OAG’s Charities Bureau, improper expense documentation, improper wage reporting, improper income tax withholding, failure to make required excise tax reporting and payments, payments in excess of reasonable compensation to disqualified persons, and waste of NRA assets; in direct violation of New York’s Estates, Powers & Trusts Laws; New York’s Not-for-Profit Corporation Law; the New York Prudent Management of Institutional Funds Act; and New York’s Executive Law. The illegal nature of the four individual defendants’ action also violated multiple rules of the NRA’s bylaws, the NRA’s employee handbook, and the NRA’s policy manual.

Attorney General James Files Lawsuit to Dissolve NRA (Letitia James, NY Attorney General; August 6, 2020)

Do we really want an elected attorney general to try to destroy a prominent nongovernmental organization that is arrayed on the other side of the political spectrum from her?

… That is the kind of politicization of the legal system that President Donald Trump has tried to promote during his four years in office.

New York’s Attorney General Shouldn’t Dismantle the NRA (Bloomberg, Op-Ed; Noah Feldman; August 6, 2011)

The remedy of dissolution sought in a lawsuit by New York Attorney General Letitia James against the National Rifle Association is one of the gravest threats to individual liberty this country has ever seen.

N.Y.’s James is right to go after the NRA for fraud and malfeasance. Seeking to dissolve it is a step too far (Pennsylvania Capital Star, Op-Ed; Bruce Ledewitz; August 11, 2020)


James was asked by reporters if there were other examples of her office seeking to dissolve an organization. Another person from her office took the podium and pointed to two other instances, one of them the shuttering of the Trump Foundation.

Letitia James Campaigned for NY Attorney General by Calling the NRA a ‘Terrorist Organization’ (Law & Crime; August 6, 2020)
 
The promotion of weapons in the hands of private citizens under the veil of Constitutional Rights is the source of police over reaction. I sympathize with police because every time the make a traffic stop or approach someone that person could be armed. Moreover, many private citizens are better armed than law enforcement. To retain our sacred right to keep AK-47s under our beds and literally hundreds of guns in the house is to cause everyone to have to go have a gun to protect themselves.
No one in Congress and no POTUS has had the balls to stand up and rein-in this insanity. Gun control is a career stopper.
 
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