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I love that video the more and more I watch it...I am really in love with the beginning...
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The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread!
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It has now replaced Ray Of Light as my favourite Madonna cd! It is amazing! The special itunes bonus track Love Spent (Acoustic Version) is so good!
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I would not go that far. I hated Give It To Me because A) The video had a remixed version of the song and I thought the original version was edgier and B) The video had so little thought behind it.
For this, the black and white cinematography, a couple of Kazaky members, and Madonna's actual dancing (in the uncensored version) save it for me.
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So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
I really don't understand.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYkwziTrv5o&list=UU81VD6eeuLLSfyY_D-N8sVw&index=1&feature=plcp[/ame]
Video is age restricted. Hot guys but IMO wtf is going on I really don't understand.
The whole dancing with fem guys reminds me of Kylie's video last year...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGaW8lBlSk&ob=av2e[/ame]
I've always preferred Kylie over Madonna. Madonna is obsessed with getting religious and political debates fired up with her videos... I mean I really don't get it... In the Give Me All Your Luvin video she's got a baby on her teat? Like wtf?
Kylie's music is more enjoyable for me because its more sort of easy, happy pop dance. Madonna has some great songs but sometimes her videos make me go completely wtf. Like seriously....
So.. with that said... wtf is going on in that video? Two guys making out and sharing an apple, hot guys dancing in heels.... ....... ????
I really don't understand.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYkwziTrv5o&list=UU81VD6eeuLLSfyY_D-N8sVw&index=1&feature=plcp[/ame]
Video is age restricted. Hot guys but IMO wtf is going on I really don't understand.
The whole dancing with fem guys reminds me of Kylie's video last year...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGaW8lBlSk&ob=av2e[/ame]
I've always preferred Kylie over Madonna. Madonna is obsessed with getting religious and political debates fired up with her videos... I mean I really don't get it... In the Give Me All Your Luvin video she's got a baby on her teat? Like wtf?
Kylie's music is more enjoyable for me because its more sort of easy, happy pop dance. Madonna has some great songs but sometimes her videos make me go completely wtf. Like seriously....
So.. with that said... wtf is going on in that video? Two guys making out and sharing an apple, hot guys dancing in heels.... ....... ????
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
Love you babe hit me up if you're ever single again. 
Yea I needed a random troll on the internet to tell me what to do.
Love you babe hit me up if you're ever single again. 
Joshua_me
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
Hmm...
"MNDA" is her most personal album *ever*.
It's basically a giant FUCK YOU to Guy Richie, (honestly, M, NO "pre-nup" ??? HOW much money is he going to get from you ???)
But, that aside, it's a good, (but not great) album from her.....
The club-ready dance beats are state of the art, but honey, (and I say this as a Madonna fan) it may be time to hang it up....
There is a joy in aging and releasing an album of perhaps just you and a piano, bass and vocal.
But, there's that voice problem, isn't there ?
Sweetness, you've made zillions, your world tour will be HUGE (How much would anyone reading this pay for a good seat ?)
But, there comes a time....
This used to be your playground.
Hmm...
"MNDA" is her most personal album *ever*.
It's basically a giant FUCK YOU to Guy Richie, (honestly, M, NO "pre-nup" ??? HOW much money is he going to get from you ???)
But, that aside, it's a good, (but not great) album from her.....
The club-ready dance beats are state of the art, but honey, (and I say this as a Madonna fan) it may be time to hang it up....
There is a joy in aging and releasing an album of perhaps just you and a piano, bass and vocal.
But, there's that voice problem, isn't there ?
Sweetness, you've made zillions, your world tour will be HUGE (How much would anyone reading this pay for a good seat ?)
But, there comes a time....
This used to be your playground.
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
LOL
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whiXg9p-TaE&feature=related[/ame]
Skip to 5:15
"But now it's time for me to go and do these dance moves... it's like, I'm Britney bitch open the gates, thank you...."
LOL[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whiXg9p-TaE&feature=related[/ame]
Skip to 5:15
"But now it's time for me to go and do these dance moves... it's like, I'm Britney bitch open the gates, thank you...."
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
Yes, and so was Liz Taylor. But Liz wouldn't have gone all OTT like this.
I reckon Madge has given in to some corporate somebody (perhaps even herself?) who thinks she needs to "up her game" and "take it to a whole new level" and "knock it out of the park" and other extremely down-with-it coolisms in order to steal some spotlight from Gaga. Who has the gays in her pocket.
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Uhm...
You DO know that Madonna was one of the earliest supporters of gay rights, don't you?
Kids these days.
Yes, and so was Liz Taylor. But Liz wouldn't have gone all OTT like this.
I reckon Madge has given in to some corporate somebody (perhaps even herself?) who thinks she needs to "up her game" and "take it to a whole new level" and "knock it out of the park" and other extremely down-with-it coolisms in order to steal some spotlight from Gaga. Who has the gays in her pocket.
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
WOW! Def much diff from this early 1985 video. Only these gay men are dressed in tuxedoes
http://youtu.be/9N6jHsAU63g
WOW! Def much diff from this early 1985 video. Only these gay men are dressed in tuxedoes
http://youtu.be/9N6jHsAU63g
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
So is it a girl wants to have fun with us gay guys and watch us making out or what?
Also I think it has very little to do with supporting gay rights and more to do with just giving some shock value. But I seriously don't see the point. Lots of artists/celebrities support gay rights, but I think to portray it like this (in a music video that makes no sense at all) is fucking pathetic.
So is it a girl wants to have fun with us gay guys and watch us making out or what?
Also I think it has very little to do with supporting gay rights and more to do with just giving some shock value. But I seriously don't see the point. Lots of artists/celebrities support gay rights, but I think to portray it like this (in a music video that makes no sense at all) is fucking pathetic.
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
I'm with Seghers.
What don't you understand?
Madonna has done a video that will appeal to part of her core demographic.
I'm with Seghers.
What don't you understand?
Madonna has done a video that will appeal to part of her core demographic.
DigitalFudge
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
Oh God I can't wait for the day that a gay male singer will be making a video like this
Hot regardless
But, OP, it's just a music video. Why are you pressed?
Oh God I can't wait for the day that a gay male singer will be making a video like this
Hot regardless
But, OP, it's just a music video. Why are you pressed?
G-Lexington
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
>>>I reckon Madge has given in to some corporate somebody (perhaps even herself?) who thinks she needs to "up her game" and "take it to a whole new level" and "knock it out of the park" and other extremely down-with-it coolisms in order to steal some spotlight from Gaga. Who has the gays in her pocket.
Madonna ostensibly put out Hard Candy as her final contractually obligated one to Warner. Now she's supposedly "liberated" and can do whatever she wants...although nothing she's done since 1984 has ever really seemed like a corporate decision. The idea that NOW she's doing things because guys in suits are telling her to do so seems rather unlikely.
The issue seems to be that Lady Gaga took over as the go-to artist with the shocking challenging videos and the gay-friendly lyrics. And rather than go in another direction, Madonna decided to play catch-up. And as such, I don't think she's coming off well. Even when she put out crap (hello Anerican Life), I felt she was following her own muse. Now it seems she's following someone else.
Lex
>>>I reckon Madge has given in to some corporate somebody (perhaps even herself?) who thinks she needs to "up her game" and "take it to a whole new level" and "knock it out of the park" and other extremely down-with-it coolisms in order to steal some spotlight from Gaga. Who has the gays in her pocket.
Madonna ostensibly put out Hard Candy as her final contractually obligated one to Warner. Now she's supposedly "liberated" and can do whatever she wants...although nothing she's done since 1984 has ever really seemed like a corporate decision. The idea that NOW she's doing things because guys in suits are telling her to do so seems rather unlikely.
The issue seems to be that Lady Gaga took over as the go-to artist with the shocking challenging videos and the gay-friendly lyrics. And rather than go in another direction, Madonna decided to play catch-up. And as such, I don't think she's coming off well. Even when she put out crap (hello Anerican Life), I felt she was following her own muse. Now it seems she's following someone else.
Lex
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
I'm not a fan of anything Madonna had done this year....except this video. Loved the hot men and loved the gayness.
I'm not a fan of anything Madonna had done this year....except this video. Loved the hot men and loved the gayness.
Blueboy369
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
I find it hilarious that anyone would think that Madonna is copying Gaga in any way. If there are any similarities perhaps its because Gaga used Madonna's collaborator, director Jonas Akerlund, to direct "Paparazzi" and Madonna's stylist Nicola Formichetti to style her for the video. Not to mention that Gaga hired frequent Madonna collaborator and friend, photographer Steven Klein to direct "Alejandro". Just google the above mentioned names and you will see that the people that Gaga hired were working for Madonna for years while Gaga was still doing her homework on her mother's kitchen table.
I find it hilarious that anyone would think that Madonna is copying Gaga in any way. If there are any similarities perhaps its because Gaga used Madonna's collaborator, director Jonas Akerlund, to direct "Paparazzi" and Madonna's stylist Nicola Formichetti to style her for the video. Not to mention that Gaga hired frequent Madonna collaborator and friend, photographer Steven Klein to direct "Alejandro". Just google the above mentioned names and you will see that the people that Gaga hired were working for Madonna for years while Gaga was still doing her homework on her mother's kitchen table.
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
i think it's safe to say lady gaga basically ran with madonna's own gimmick and left madonna clueless wondering what to do next so she put out this. no offense to all you madonna fans outthere but she's finished. she'll always be a legend but it's like all these legendary singers and musicians that were megastars 20, 15 plus years ago trying to make a comeback to appeal to a younger generation. all she's doing is just soiling her legacy. at this point, she's should just be putting out records for fun which is why the whole idea of her putting out a serious record is laughable. i think she needs to step aside and let it go. it's over. she basically lives on through all these new pop singers that basically are stealing her shit.
i think it's safe to say lady gaga basically ran with madonna's own gimmick and left madonna clueless wondering what to do next so she put out this. no offense to all you madonna fans outthere but she's finished. she'll always be a legend but it's like all these legendary singers and musicians that were megastars 20, 15 plus years ago trying to make a comeback to appeal to a younger generation. all she's doing is just soiling her legacy. at this point, she's should just be putting out records for fun which is why the whole idea of her putting out a serious record is laughable. i think she needs to step aside and let it go. it's over. she basically lives on through all these new pop singers that basically are stealing her shit.
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Re: So.... wtf is up with all the gay stuff portrayed in Madonna's new video?
Madonna never wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for her pandering so incredibly hard to the gay scene. You have to understand that she HAS to do this to remain relevant.
Madonna is 53 years old and she's singing an uninspired song about how she's a "wild girl". Puh-leez. It's the stereotypical gay scene that's still buying her albums and buying tickets to her shows, so she's giving them what they want to see. Men.
Madonna never wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for her pandering so incredibly hard to the gay scene. You have to understand that she HAS to do this to remain relevant.
Madonna is 53 years old and she's singing an uninspired song about how she's a "wild girl". Puh-leez. It's the stereotypical gay scene that's still buying her albums and buying tickets to her shows, so she's giving them what they want to see. Men.
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so, i gave MDNA a couple of spins today...
my first reaction is that its perfectly fine, but not great.
what i like most about MDNA is that its is the first madonna album in ages that doesnt have a stylistic gimmick. its not 'the spiritual album', or 'the disco album', or 'the r&b album'. its just pure unpretentious pop, and actually kinda close to her early albums like 'true blue' and 'like a prayer'; at least in style.
quality is a different question. there is good material, but nothing that blows me away. also, her controversy baiting is coming off as exhausting rather than playful or clever. and her vocals are incosistent; i love her singing on 'masterpiece', but on 'gang bang', her spoken word parts could have a lot more sass.
MDNA doesnt thrill me the way 'ray of light' or 'music' did, but its certainly not a miscalculation like 'hard candy' or 'american life'. i guess good should be good enough, i guess i should stop expecting greatness from madonna.
my first reaction is that its perfectly fine, but not great.
what i like most about MDNA is that its is the first madonna album in ages that doesnt have a stylistic gimmick. its not 'the spiritual album', or 'the disco album', or 'the r&b album'. its just pure unpretentious pop, and actually kinda close to her early albums like 'true blue' and 'like a prayer'; at least in style.
quality is a different question. there is good material, but nothing that blows me away. also, her controversy baiting is coming off as exhausting rather than playful or clever. and her vocals are incosistent; i love her singing on 'masterpiece', but on 'gang bang', her spoken word parts could have a lot more sass.
MDNA doesnt thrill me the way 'ray of light' or 'music' did, but its certainly not a miscalculation like 'hard candy' or 'american life'. i guess good should be good enough, i guess i should stop expecting greatness from madonna.
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