Theory of being gay

[Kahaih]

While the masculine/feminine debate can be interesting, it has virtually nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Bringing that up here is one of those 'cart before the horse' things, as people don't become gay at the flick of a wrist. No one changes his or her sexuality by putting on a baseball cap or a sunbonnet.

 

[Benvolio]

While the masculine/feminine debate can be interesting, it has virtually nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Bringing that up here is one of those 'cart before the horse' things, as people don't become gay at the flick of a wrist. No one changes his or her sexuality by putting on a baseball cap or a sunbonnet.

I came up as I suggested that the "gay voice" anf femininity which some gays have is a physical difference--genetic or congenital--which in turn suggests thst for some at least, gayness is physical in origin.

 

[MrRochesterNY]

Interesting thread, interesting debate. Blubee started this thread on January 14th and hasn't been seen on JUB since. Blubee was a hit-and-run, here only for the JUB porn, and now he seems permanently gone.

But keep the nature/nurture debate going. My vote tends to go with nature, although I grew up straight and gradually changed.

 

[gsdx]

^ I grew up straight, too, but only because I didn't know what gay was.

 

[kev]

Isn't it enough just to like dick?

And as a bisexual, I would pay some MAJOR money to see rareboy's tits.

 

[peeonme]

Interesting thread, interesting debate. Blubee started this thread on January 14th and hasn't been seen on JUB since. Blubee was a hit-and-run, here only for the JUB porn, and now he seems permanently gone.

But keep the nature/nurture debate going. My vote tends to go with nature, although I grew up straight and gradually changed.

Or, did you grow up thinking that you were straight and gradually become aware that you were not?
I always thought that my attraction to the same sex was circumstantial and a phase due to my surroundings. When my surroundings changed my attractions didn't.

One day it dawned on me that while I still saw girls as being sexual that they didn't do near as much to attract me as guys did. I was 16 when I realized that I "liked guys" and had been misinformed by adults that this was a trait that one had due to their activities,
in other words if you have sex with guys, then you will become a homosexual.
It took me some time to lose that mind set and realize that one has sex with other guys because he is a homosexual.

 

[buckeyrex]

Why bother about so-called "causes" of homosexuality. Just accept the fact that you are or you are not. Accepting people for who they are can be difficult for some. But it's worth a try.

 

[ballcaphair]

Why bother about so-called "causes" of homosexuality. Just accept the fact that you are or you are not. Accepting people for who they are can be difficult for some. But it's worth a try.

So worth a try. Thanks buckyrex. I love you, Man.

 

[MrRochesterNY]

Or, did you grow up thinking that you were straight and gradually become aware that you were not?

No, for the first half of my life I felt absolutely no sexual attraction for males, only for females. Then at some point something in me changed, and I began to be as interested in males (particularly younger males) as in females, today even more so. I have no idea why. It just is.

 

[mbamike]

must've been that damned anal probing;kept going back for more

LOL! I love having my anus probed!

I haven't read up on this subject in a long time, but I'm leaning toward biology/genetics. I remember reading there are over 1500 species of animal, non-human, with homosexual tendencies.

While we are on the subject, I think the gay population is much larger than the 3-4% that is credited to us. This is just from my observation because I am getting fucked by a lot of married, married to women, men. I'm sure they are declaring they are straight in public and on questionnaires, then fucking guys in private.

 

[ballcaphair]

Why bother about so-called "causes" of homosexuality. Just accept the fact that you are or you are not. Accepting people for who they are can be difficult for some. But it's worth a try.

This so perfectly accurate! Guys don't bother about so-called "causes" of heterosexuality.

 

[peeonme]

This so perfectly accurate! Guys don't bother about so-called "causes" of heterosexuality.

Actually, there have always been those in our species that have pondered everything about our very existence. It is called curiosity
or more definitively intellectual curiosity.

We would not have doctors and cures or vaccines today without someone in our history wondering and pondering about how our bodies work. Micro biology and the knowledge of bacteria came about due to the need to know.

We as a species are wired to wonder these things, you have a computer because of this.

Sexuality and how it works and why it has diversity are just another subject that some choose to understand more fully.

We should never shun or fear understanding and knowledge... it brings liberty to us. In times past a lack of these attributes has led to darkness and death.

 

[Pierresro]

As you know 1 is the genetic path, I was reading that the level of testosterone while the baby's brain in the womb. If the mom has adequate level of testosterone then the kid would be straight if not he'd be gay.
But this theory does not fit in view of the facts, testosterone promotes muscle growth and hairy and many hairy men are gay. So the testosterone way does not fit

The other is the influence of the male figure/dad on the son, many gay kids often come from dysfunctional family. It explains the fact that the teen craves for a father figure.

I know some kids come from perfect family but they become gay, may be it is a conditioning during teen years. Once he is comfortable and have fun with another guy then he is conditioned to same sex.
What do you think? only 3 possibilities

The following statement shows you need help " I know some kids come from perfect family but they become gay, may be it is a conditioning during teen years. Once he is comfortable and have fun with another guy then he is conditioned to same sex.
What do you think? only 3 possibilities " For years gays have heard normal and not normal I have no idea if you are gay but this statement alone tells me I would have nothing to do with you. There are animals Penguins Birda all sorts that live inn what would call a gay relationship s what the heck do you mean! I should point out I havel aways been gay and have an abnormally high testosterone reading.

 

[gsdx]

Sexuality and how it works and why it has diversity are just another subject that some choose to understand more fully.

We should never shun or fear understanding and knowledge... it brings liberty to us. In times past a lack of these attributes has led to darkness and death.

As I've mentioned before, the word 'homosexuality' didn't even exist until the late 1800s. The behaviour and the concept have always been around (and exists throughout the animal kingdom), but it was never really given consideration until a behavioural psychologist slapped it with the label 'Sexual Deviation'. All of a sudden, it became taboo and a behaviour deserving of harsh punishment.

When there something wrong with your car, a mechanic can fix it. Homosexuality cannot be fixed, no matter how hard someone tries to fix it. That's why conversion therapy doesn't work.

 

[kallipolis]

^Correct... there is no cure for being the imperfect human person...other than living life, and finding out more about oneself, through the choices we make. Becoming who we are is a life long journey of self discovery, that ends at our death.

 

[peeonme]

As I've mentioned before, the word 'homosexuality' didn't even exist until the late 1800s. The behaviour and the concept have always been around (and exists throughout the animal kingdom), but it was never really given consideration until a behavioural psychologist slapped it with the label 'Sexual Deviation'. All of a sudden, it became taboo and a behaviour deserving of harsh punishment.

When there something wrong with your car, a mechanic can fix it. Homosexuality cannot be fixed, no matter how hard someone tries to fix it. That's why conversion therapy doesn't work.

As the old saying goes; "if it ain't broke don't fix it."
I at one time in my young adult life thought that I needed fixing, it took me a long time to accept myself and to understand that homosexuality is not a "condition" that needs fixing.

Trying to more fully understand why a thing is what it is does not necessarily imply that one seeks to change or fix it, only to unlock the mystery behind it.

 

[gsdx]

As the old saying goes; "if it ain't broke don't fix it."

It should come as no surprise that Christians sat up and took notice when homosexuality was labelled a 'sexual deviation'. That's when Bibles and translations began to change. Of course, we know now that it is not a deviation, but that hasn't stopped a lot of people from believing that it is.

 

[peeonme]

It should come as no surprise that Christians sat up and took notice when homosexuality was labelled a 'sexual deviation'. That's when Bibles and translations began to change. Of course, we know now that it is not a deviation, but that hasn't stopped a lot of people from believing that it is.

I don't think that it does any good to go down that path. When trying to discuss a matter such as human sexuality and the nature vs. nurture aspects of why a person is straight instead of gay i find that religion muddies the waters.

 

[gsdx]

^ Meant only to make those here aware of 'where it all began'. It wasn't meant as a topic of discussion.

Psychology is, by the way, the study of behaviour, not the study of the mind. That's psychiatry. And studies have been steadily veering away from the 'nurture' portion of the 'nature/nurture' debate, because homosexuality in nature is not explained by the 'nurture' portion.

People associate homosexuality with humans and the theories reflect that. But the theories must also apply to the animal kingdom, and most of them don't. They fall apart where animals are concerned.