This greasy piece of shit is going to tell me that being gay is wrong?

[Ram]

As a practicing Christian myself, I just want to say I fucking hate the American brand of Christianity. It is the most backward form of worship out there.

 

[senorserio]

Methinks he doth protest too much...he's a closet case homosexual, he takes it up the ass...

This would be my assumption also. Clearly some latent homosexual tendencies there. If I were a betting man.....

 

[yummylongsword]

Ugh. The guy I can tolerate... I've seen it all before, blind ignorance and stupidity that needs to be wiped out. But the looks on the faces of those kids as they came up just made me feel sick... that terrible mix of shame and embarrassment and a sick hope that they can be "normal" if they listen to this crazy guy. Makes me so sad.

 

[asu1117]

Lumping all of Christianity into this sort of mania is about as intelligent as the video itself.

All Americans aren't fools.

All Muslims are terrorists.

All gays aren't drag queens.

All Christians aren't Fundamentalists and hatemongers.



Countering his stereotyping with anti-Christian stereotyping is anti-intuitive.

It explains why the culture wars wage on.

Have you ever lived in the Bible Belt? You should try it sometime.


While all Christians are obviously not as mentally disturbed as this man appears to be, the vast majority do believe that we are condemned to hell because of who we were born. That is something I take offense to. This doesn't mean that I hate all Christians, but they certainly aren't my favorite group of people. And I don't care about any "taking the high road" bullshit, if they're going to judge me for something I cannot help I sure as hell will judge them for something they are in control of.

 

[yummylongsword]

Have you ever lived in the Bible Belt? You should try it sometime.


While all Christians are obviously not as mentally disturbed as this man appears to be, the vast majority do believe that we are condemned to hell because of who we were born. That is something I take offense to. This doesn't mean that I hate all Christians, but they certainly aren't my favorite group of people. And I don't care about any "taking the high road" bullshit, if they're going to judge me for something I cannot help I sure as hell will judge them for something they are in control of.

"Vast majority" is pushing it. Just because you lived in a religiously radical part of the world does not mean everyone else acts like that. You don't go to Iran and expect to find amazing examples of moderate, liberal Muslims... and you don't go to Mississippi and expect to find a ton of examples of accepting, open Christians.

Judging an individual is different than judging and entire group, and neither is necessarily a good thing to do. Don't let negative emotions override your logic, or your kindness and compassion.

 

[yummylongsword]

And to Yummy's point, it is unfair to suggest that the South is a wasteland, devoid of moderates or thinkers. Conceded that Fundamentalists do prevail there, however.

Right. And most likely, moderates who don't run with the pack get eaten alive, so to speak, so there are probably many who really aren't so radical but have to keep it quiet.

 

[asu1117]

"Vast majority" is pushing it. Just because you lived in a religiously radical part of the world does not mean everyone else acts like that. You don't go to Iran and expect to find amazing examples of moderate, liberal Muslims... and you don't go to Mississippi and expect to find a ton of examples of accepting, open Christians.

Judging an individual is different than judging and entire group, and neither is necessarily a good thing to do. Don't let negative emotions override your logic, or your kindness and compassion.

Last I checked most denominations of Christianity still consider being Homosexual to be a sin. Or acting upon it, which is no better a view. Am I wrong?

^^My first 45 years.

The majority of people only constitute a majority. 51% leaves another 49% to be accounted for.

All my point was making is that it is wrong to paint all Christians with the same brush, just the same as painting all Jews, all gays, all Yankees, all Texans, all computer techs, and so on.

Foaming at the mouth in an anti-Christian hysteria just comes across as simple-minded, as much as the Fundmentalists' rantings.

Ranting is ranting, conservative, liberal, prudish, hedonistic, whatever.

And to Yummy's point, it is unfair to suggest that the South is a wasteland, devoid of moderates or thinkers. Conceded that Fundamentalists do prevail there, however.

Like I said, I don't hate all Christians. Many of them are very nice people, no different than anyone else. But many of them are quite the opposite. And it's not a significant minority of Christians that are against homosexuality. My point is that a lot of the hate that we have to face comes from this group of people, it's the largest anti gay group/religion in the US, and wields the most political/social control. I'm not anti-Christian, but I am not a fan of being discriminated against. And they are one of the biggest offenders in that area.

 

[asu1117]

^^To the contrary, it sounds like hate and judgmentalism are pretty handy at the ready right here.

Assuming all Christians are sitting around judging the rest of us is just as prejudiced as some of you are accusing the Christians of being.

Polarizing much?

I don't think assuming is the correct word, plenty of them make their views very well known. I'm not going to accept discrimination from anyone, but you can feel free to. Even if it is "assumption". The beliefs of Christianity (and all religions for that matter) are made very public, or am I missing something?

 

[yummylongsword]

Last I checked most denominations of Christianity still consider being Homosexual to be a sin. Or acting upon it, which is no better a view. Am I wrong?

That completely depends. Most denominations are just groupings that share similar key beliefs... but every church and even every individual has different beliefs regarding the littler things. You can't say any individual denomination believes anything in particular besides the one thing that makes them a unique denomination (which isn't usually gay hatred, it's something like interpretation of the soul or what happens after you die). Really, the only "organized" denomination of Christianity is Roman Catholicism, they have rules that every church has to abide by. But even so, it's more than possible for individuals hold differing beliefs. And EVEN if someone does believe being gay is a sin doesn't mean that they necessarily hate gay people, just like how Christians don't necessarily hate everyone that tells a lie, or that drinks, etc.

 

[fetaby]

Apologists abound!

Instead of fretting over the brush you are painted with, perhaps you need to get your canvas primed.

All this talk about what christianity is directed at those who know it all to well. Perhaps you'll want to bring that message back to your own home. From the abundance of video clips, some discussion is in order.

 

[fetaby]

And EVEN if someone does believe being gay is a sin doesn't mean that they necessarily hate gay people, just like how Christians don't necessarily hate everyone that tells a lie, or that drinks, etc.

 

[Telstra]

Lumping all of Christianity into this sort of mania is about as intelligent as the video itself.

All Americans aren't fools.

All Muslims are terrorists.

All gays aren't drag queens.

All Christians aren't Fundamentalists and hatemongers.



Countering his stereotyping with anti-Christian stereotyping is anti-intuitive.

It explains why the culture wars wage on.

well, most Christians/muslims are non practicing and they don't follow the book and they give cover to the extremists.

They should be called non-believers as well because they don't follow what "god" said in the holy books.

Only the extremists are truly religious like the guy in the video.

 

[yummylongsword]

What a load of crap. lol

Although I understand that people can't be lumped into one group, we are talking about people who go and donate and support people who use religion to hate us. People who say and preach that we are sinners. It's the most widely accepted view of us in religion.

And don't even get me started on the Pentecostals.

You can turn the other cheek but I refuse to do so or get on all fours so they can fuck me up the ass.

No. You just arbitrarily decide what is acceptable bad behavior and what isn't. It's just like that crap about Target. You pick the loudest or most prominent group that's causing problems and you loudly and vehemently declare your hate for them. You continue to ignore the TONS of other groups that cause just as many problems. Nobody is perfect, and no group can be lumped together. You're so selfish and self-centered that you believe that if someone has even the loosest ties with someone who opposes your rights and causes you trouble, they're just plain evil.

I'm sure some of your friends have done terrible things. I'm sure you've hurt many people, you've insulted people, you've blown off homeless beggars in the street and you don't donate as much as you should. You, like everyone, have done bad and possibly even terrible things.Does that make you an evil person? No. If you're part of a religion that sometimes condones bad things but sometimes condones good things too, oh well! Maybe try and focus on the good, but bad is a constant.

I'm not saying that people are justified in their bad behavior, or that we should just sit back and accept that people will work against gay rights. But blindly spewing your hate towards anyone and everyone within a religious group, no matter what their intentions, makes you as sick and disgusting as the people that lump LGBT people into a group and spew their hate. Hypocrisy makes me angrier than anything, and far too many people here are far too hypocritical.

 

[fetaby]

Hypocrisy makes me angrier than anything, and far too many people here are far too hypocritical.

God said don't judge!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo[/ame]

 

[BearBoi]

$10 says he will be convicted of trying to help some of those prettier young men 'be saved' in private prayer sessions by driving the demon from their cock with his mouth.

 

[healingduck]

Its people like this that make me resent religion in general. Makes me sad that the teens are actually believing that there is something wrong with them... Such a shame. Ignorant people spreading ignorance.

 

[healingduck]

$10 says he will be convicted of trying to help some of those prettier young men 'be saved' in private prayer sessions by driving the demon from their cock with his mouth.

I find it a bit ironic that this is usually the case.

 

[fetaby]

You know what? You're rambling here and none of it makes sense. Try editing or retype a different version. It's all over the place.

Summary? Let one without sin cast the first stone...

 

[yummylongsword]

To answer the bolded: So it's ok for them to do bad things because they do many good things?
You know what? You're rambling here and none of it makes sense. Try editing or retype a different version. It's all over the place.

No, I'm not rambly and I'm not all over the place, you just choose to ignore what I've written and pick out a single sentence out of context. Your question is answered in the very next sentence.

I'm not saying that people are justified in their bad behavior, or that we should just sit back and accept that people will work against gay rights. But blindly spewing your hate towards anyone and everyone within a religious group, no matter what their intentions, makes you as sick and disgusting as the people that lump LGBT people into a group and spew their hate.

Responding to hate with more hate is hypocritical and bad. Simple enough?

 

[fetaby]

Responding to hate with more hate is hypocritical and bad. Simple enough?

Yeah, so let's just pray that hate disappears...