Time to Discuss the 2016 Presidential Election

[Benvolio]

Traffic was lined up for miles to attend Trump's Pittsburgh rally, and people were turned away at the door. http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016...ws-big-crowd-in-moon-twp-days-before-election

There is a lot of room for surprises in this election.

 

[gsdx]

And now it's come to light that both Trump and the GOP have paid out almost $2 million ($1.2 million by the GOP and $600,000 by Trump) to a man whose companies have been "repeatedly investigated for voter registration fraud, even as Trump has complained that the election is rigged against him."

Three employees of Strategic Allied Consulting, a firm owned by conservative operative Nathan Sproul, pleaded guilty in Florida four years ago to felony charges related to altering and destroying scores of voter registration forms. There were no formal actions against the firm.

Yet recent federal campaign finance reports reviewed by The Associated Press show Sproul is now back on the RNC's payroll, this time with a firm named Lincoln Strategy Group, a renamed version of his former firm Sproul & Associates, an Arizona-based firm that was investigated for alleged voter registration misconduct in Nevada and Oregon.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-gop-paying-consultant-dogged-215559004.html

 

[mikey3000]

You are truly hopeless. I'm Canadian!!

A hopeless Canadian.

Both politicians are lying assholes, just Hillary is one on a global scale. You all have no choice but to choose the lesser of two evils. That's how your system is rigged. Pity.

 

[kallipolis]

A hopeless Canadian.

Both politicians are lying assholes, just Hillary is one on a global scale. You all have no choice but to choose the lesser of two evils. That's how your system is rigged. Pity.

With a vital caveat....the United States provides its citizens with choices through the primaries that has led to the final two candidates representing very different programmes for voters to make their choice.....denied to many on this planet.

Despite the flawed nature of every human being it is noteworthy that Americans enjoy the cut, and thrust that their elections provide for our education, as well as entertainment.

 

[Benvolio]

With a vital caveat....the United States provides its citizens with choices through the primaries that has led to the final two candidates representing very different programmes for voters to make their choice.....denied to many on this planet.

Despite the flawed nature of every human being it is noteworthy that Americans enjoy the cut, and thrust that their elections provide for our education, as well as entertainment.

Yes, and it sounds good, but it clearly is not working well. Both candidates are deeply flawed. Very few are happy with the candidates.

 

[nycguydowntown]

If she wins she should send Comey to Siberia.

She should because it would make the repubs more insane then they are lol---but she won't --Democrats are very forgiving and passionate individuals who have really created the greatness that is this country---FDR---Kennedy---Clinton---Obama---they have Reagan---Nixon---George W---trump lol---the repubs are just a 30% loud voice of racists at this point----they need to go down in flames so a more libertarian conservative movement can develop in this country. I'm not for open borders but it's going to be hard for the repubs---because they are crazy emotional whiners about everything---with no real solutions.

 

[kallipolis]

Yes, and it sounds good, but it clearly is not working well. Both candidates are deeply flawed. Very few are happy with the candidates.

We may agree that neither candidate is ideal....but the process is working well, for the voter has been provided with two very different choices.

What ever the result of this election I will wish the president elect my best wishes for their new administration.

 

[Benvolio]

We may agree that neither candidate is ideal....but the process is working well, for the voter has been provided with two very different choices.

What ever the result of this election I will wish the president elect my best wishes for their new administration.

It is not working well. The process is so nasty and arduous that the best people are not willing to try. It filters out the good people. What is left are the egomaniacs who can suffer the slings and arrows.

 

[kallipolis]

^That's life knowing that the process may well not appeal to you, nevertheless it works well for the majority for it produces choice that enables people to decide how best they wish to be represented.

That is no mean feat in a world where many people do not enjoy the benefits that Americans benefit from, when electing their choice, rather than having their leaders imposed upon them.

Egomaniacs can be restrained by the checks, and balances that are built into the United States system of governance.

 

[jaysizzles]

Apparently the latest Comey announcement that the Weiner/Abiden emails didn't turn up anything new with regards to Clinton was a big deal with a lot of voters. Yesterday 538 had her losing to Trump in swing states Nevada, Florida, and North Carolina. Today, there has been a dramatic upswing in support of her in those states, and she is now slightly ahead in them. Before the announcement from Comey that he was investigating the emails, she was up at 86% chance to win, now she's around 67%...up 3 percentage points from just yesterday.

It's a good sign, but still I have to question why her emails are of such a concern to so many when there are countless reasons to not vote for Trump that are far worse. I never questioned it.

btw...ABC polls have her up 5 points ahead of Trump today. Stock markets are up today too, after a bit of a dip...fear of Trump win has passed I guess.

 

[Benvolio]

Comey and the DOJ have much to answer for with these announcements causing wild swings in the polls.

 

[rareboy]

The DOJ warned Comey that he was making a grave error by injecting the FBI into the election at such a late date.

This is all on him.

I suspect that he has been under considerable pressure to fix this or fall on his sword.

 

[gsdx]

A hopeless Canadian.

That was completely uncalled for.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

An article about the LGBTQ rights future based on the turnout of between these 2 candidates. Completely agree with it and I don't see how any self respecting LGBTQ person doesn't.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._58208900e4b0d9ce6fbd22d4?ncid=APPLENEWS00001

 

[Kabluey]

The DOJ warned Comey that he was making a grave error by injecting the FBI into the election at such a late date.

This is all on him.

I suspect that he has been under considerable pressure to fix this or fall on his sword.

Quite. I doubt this event has inspired faith in his ability to lead a critical federal agency.

 

[Alnitak]

I can't believe this ridiculous year long slog comes to a close tomorrow. I think everyone involved is thoroughly bruised and exhausted. Is there any chance elections could be shortened after this?

 

[gsdx]

I can't believe this ridiculous year long slog comes to a close tomorrow. I think everyone involved is thoroughly bruised and exhausted. Is there any chance elections could be shortened after this?

In Canada, the minimum length of a federal election campaign is 36 days. Since 1872, campaigns have averaged 50 days. The longest campaign was last year's election at 78 days. Had Harper not extended the campaign, it is likely he would have won another term. He literally lost it in the last days of the campaign.

 

[TX-Beau]

Well, here we are. The Russians have had their say, The Blacks have nothing to lose, the Mexicans have been insulted, the women have been groped, dead soldiers insulted, war heroes denigrated, the FBI has canted and recanted, the Orang in Chief has spun wild fantasies, Beauty Queens have been called fat, babies thrown out, reporters attacked. Churches have been firebombed, little singing girls stiffed, and whole religions denied entry, the nerd in the Pantsuit has tried to be Michelle, Mexico refused to pay for the wall,The Barbie Doll has "forgiven" her Sugar Daddy, the Klan has chosen a savior - and somewhere sinister Bill and Debbie Wasserman Shultzfinger sip a scotch puffing a couple of Cigars, watching carefully...

Have I missed anyone important?

I intend to get stinking drunk tomorrow night. I'm volunteering in the afternoon, then it's just me, my baby and Glen, Livet, he's 21 and oh so smooth on your tongue.

...and when I wake up on Wednesday, completely hung over, dehydrated, nasty scratchy mouth, throbbing head, puffy eyes, off to work I'll go in my dark glasses, whatever the outcome - feeling slightly soiled and promising myself never to do that again.

 

[TX-Beau]

I can't believe this ridiculous year long slog comes to a close tomorrow. I think everyone involved is thoroughly bruised and exhausted. Is there any chance elections could be shortened after this?

This election started in 1970.

 

[eastofeden]

I will be happy when I can address my legitimate issues about Hillary Clinton again..even if only to myself. Supporting her run for President and liking her as a candidate does not mean I think she is without flaws....

I won't be discussing it online though...too many paid liars who serve to disrupt and hijack the conversation...they show up everywhere. I do smile when i see them trolling the tiny boards because without interaction it is so obvious what the intent is.

I did this back in 2008..shut my mouth about my concerns with Obama 'til after the election so I didn't have to watch the right wing shills quote me or (gasp) agree with me....a mistake I made early on I shall not repeat....