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To No A Veil

In the London borough I live in there are numerous Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, Jews, Rastafarians, atheists, pagans and humanists all living and working. And the same is true in New York, Paris, and many cities around the world.

Multiculturalism works. It is the way forward. And compromise is an essential part of living in multicultural society.

This teacher is not prepared to compromise. She has options which she will have to face eventually.

Happy Diwali!:wave:
 
Going back to the original topic, it is culture rather than religion that makes some Islamic women veil their faces. The vast majority--the women of Indonesia and Malaysia, for example--do not.

I know we say over and over that different cultures are not right or wrong, just different, but at the same time we condemn the former southern U.S. culture of segregation and Jim Crow laws, and rightly so. I don't believe we have to accept the Saudi subordination of women and more than we accept the ideas of White Power. I don't mind calling both wrong.

Saudi Arabian culture demands a veil. British culture has different values. A veil is not a religious rule, so in my opinion "when in Rome..."
 
Why do people care?

Women of cover want it the way it is.

Why does this matter to anyone?
 
Are there any rules regarding pictures on the front of the Hijab? I for one would find them much less intimidating if they had a red nose and cheesy smile drawn on the front. Or perhaps a big nose and comedy mustache.
 
Andreus said:
Why do people care?

Women of cover want it the way it is.

Why does this matter to anyone?
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If you'd baothered to read the whole thread you'd know by now. The kids weren't getting as good an education because she was wearing it. I'm not gonna re-explain the whole argument all over again, but read the thread and you'll see the logic.
 
elvin1 said:
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this is a first.

i can honestly say that evlin1 had the best post in this thread.
 
BenF46 said:
Are there any rules regarding pictures on the front of the Hijab? I for one would find them much less intimidating if they had a red nose and cheesy smile drawn on the front. Or perhaps a big nose and comedy mustache.
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Brilliant!:=D:

But forget the moustache. The Taleban imprisoned males who trimmed their beards too short. Hard to believe, but true.
 
Lube said:
So a fundamentalist Christian has the right not to have their child taught by homosexual teachers "because [they] fell that culture is... well... unacceptable"?

I disagree.
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not the same thing.

If he was having sex in front of the kids... yes... what he does in his personal life shouldn't make a difference.

If she wants to wear a rubber body sock at home, I don't care.

If front of the children, it's not ok to me. (I mean, it's not really ok at ALL, I don't think, but hey... do what you want.)
 
In western countries a large part of communications relies on facial expressions as well as on physical appearance.
When you go for a job interview, you shouldn't wear sun glasses. Your potential employer wants eye to eye contact. All want a team player.
If people choose not to comply with established employment guidelines, they shouldn't complain when they don't get the job.
Would you buy a used car from a salesman covering his face, or vote for a politician covering his face? Sometimes they still tell you bare faced lies, but covering their faces is open season for deceit and deception.
 
Andreus said:
Why do people care?

Women of cover want it the way it is.

Why does this matter to anyone?
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because we can't understand we all want the same thing.

a good job
a safe place to raise your family
peace.
 
greaves said:
Aisha Azmi says she is "fearful of the consequences for Muslim women in this country (UK) who want to work."

She seems to be unaware that significant numbers of Muslim women already work in the UK, and have been doing so for decades. So her remarks are not only an insult to working Muslim women, they are also an insult to the multicultural country she chooses to live in.

As other posters have hinted at, you suspect there is a fundamentalist Muslim MAN, (or imam), lurking in the background of this story, hiding behind his own veil of secrecy.
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And that man is unveiled as mufti Yusuf Sacha:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2426770,00.html
 
So she's just a brainless puppet after all.

Maybe he should come in and teach the class for her, too. Not like she's capable of much on her own anyway.

Good riddance to bad garbage.
 
This is a quote from Kelvin Mackenzie in the 'Sun'.
I thought it quite amusing.....it went something like this....

I say, I say, I say

A Muslim woman in a full burka came knocking at my door the other day, and to show her my full respect I opened the letterbox and at least we then had eye to eye contact.

:D ;)
 
British Airways have re-considered their decision after a lot of people got very cross:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2470779,00.html

Quite right too. Wearing symbols is part of modern life. Sikhs know that. So do Nike. There are many turbaned Sikhs working for BA. And I bet many of them also wear Nike products.

When I went to Portuagal earlier this year, the uniformed check-in person at the airport was not only wearing a cross, but had a picture of Cristiano Ronaldo on top of the PC.:eek: I was not only treated with the upmost courtesy, but was found a seat on a "just leaving" flight which got me to Faro 2 hours early. :cool:
 
And I thought the to no A Veil was merely someone not spelling avail correctly.
 
I like it when people wear crosses.

It lets me know to whom I can be unnecessrily rude.
 
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