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Trump's Mass Deportation Plans

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It is beyond belief that the Trump regime held the South Koreans for days, trying to convince them and their bosses to have them stay to train Americans...and they said fuck you.

This might be one of the reasons why.

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Meanwhile...the public relations campaign to get Koreans to invest in the US might run up against resistance from the people who would be setting up the factories that Americans will work in...it underscores the staggering ignorance of American government officials about how investment by foreign companies in the US is established....although the US would have no second thoughts about sending an entirely American team to some other non-english speaking country to set up an Americcan factory or resource extraction and refinement branch...

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Corporations are either going to scream at Congress or they will just offshore more work. For tech workers, they're not at a point where they can replace the workers with AI and those workers are still needed.
 
rareboy said:
TrumpCo. in 2019.

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From Microsoft to employees

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KaraBulut said:
Corporations are either going to scream at Congress or they will just offshore more work. For tech workers, they're not at a point where they can replace the workers with AI and those workers are still needed.
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This is turning out to be a shitshow, typical of the chaotic nonsense that comes out of Trump's Administration. Apparently this was another genius idea of the Heritage Foundation.

The $100,000 fee came out of an order from the White House on Friday (19-Sep-2025). The Administration said the change goes into effect at 12:01 a.m. Eastern time on Sunday (21-Sep-2025).

The short notice had immediate impact with travelers who were on international flights or who were scheduled for international flights being uncertain whether they were impacted. CEOs were caught off guard and hastily tried to get clarification from their legal departments on what this change meant.

On social media (which somehow is now allowed to be an "official communication" method?) the Administration said, that it would "not impact the ability of any current visa holder to travel to/from the U.S".

On Saturday, USCIS sent out a letter saying that it pertained "prospectively to petitions that have not yet been filed". Administration officials gave interviews over the weekend which muddled the message and many companies sent notices to their employees who were out of the country telling them to return to the US immediately.

H1B visas are skilled worker visas. They are heavily used by American corporations to bring foreign workers (often from India) to the US to work in tech positions as coders, system administration, database administrators and other key information technology positions. Stats from the Biden Administration indicated that 400,000 H1B applications were approved in 2024 alone and 73% of those applications were for workers from India, about 50% of whom hold masters degrees or higher.

The H1B application requires a statement that the company has been unable to find a citizen for the position. The normal fee had been about $1,200 total. An expedited application required a $3,000 payment to process the application within 15 days. The H1B visa is valid for 3 years. While the worker is on a visa, the employee and employer are required to pay payroll taxes, including Medicare and Social Security, however the foreign worker is not eligible to apply for Medicare or claim Social Security benefits, now or in the future.

If companies offshore the positions and have these workers work from India, they are not required to obtain a visa and the employees are not required to pay payroll taxes. We are already seeing companies like Deloitte, Dell Services and WiPro setting up sweatshops in India where workers are paid $300-$800 per month to do jobs that a US worker would be paid $80,000-$150,000 to do.

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www.nytimes.com

Trump’s $100,000 Visa Fee Spurs Confusion and Chaos

The White House sought to clarify the proclamation on Saturday, but many companies remained cautious. “We are still flying in somewhat foggy conditions,” one attorney said.
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So typical that the demand that all these positions be filled by cis white guys doesn't reflect the actual reality of demand versus supply. And it sounds like the kind of half-baked Project 2025 objective of 'whitening' the US.

As you note, the types of companies looking for H1B talent aren't going to just turn around and give the job to some guy from the mid-west with a GED.

They will indeed off-shore and shut down their tech centres in the US.

Canada may benefit because we do have some tech and data hubs, but largely, they will just leave them in India and southeast Asian countries.

What kills me of course, is that TrumpCo. is re-tooling the education in the US to produce fewer and fewer workers qualified for upper tier white collar and blue collar positions.
 
And I see that some Immigration Law firms in Canada are jumping on the H1B chaos as an opportunity for highly skilled immigrants.
 
rareboy said:
So typical that the demand that all these positions be filled by cis white guys doesn't reflect the actual reality of demand versus supply. And it sounds like the kind of half-baked Project 2025 objective of 'whitening' the US.

As you note, the types of companies looking for H1B talent aren't going to just turn around and give the job to some guy from the mid-west with a GED.
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It's really going to be a mess. A lot of tech guys in the US don't get 4 year degrees. The technology has been changing so fast that by the time they complete a 4 year degree, the industry has changed and they learn from doing an externship. The guys who do get degrees don't want to work at a boring sysadmin job, they want to work for gaming companies.

Anyone who flies in and out of Newark will tell you that the flights from India are wide-body planes and they are packed with tech workers coming to/from the US. The number one employer for these tech workers? Amazon. Those Amazon data centers all over the east coast employ Indian workers by the thousands.
 
^ And they'll fit right in. Edison, NJ is now "Little India." It's actually delightful
Why did people start hating immigrants?
Oops...I'm forgetting American history.
 
CNN summarizes the H1B debacle well:


It made me think of this comedy routine. At around 14:00 Soresi talks to an audience member who was a Chinese exchange student. The audience member jokes about how the math in American high school is on the level with what the Chinese teach in elementary schools. He says that he played on his phone in his American math class and then passed the tests without studying. Good luck replacing H1B knowledge workers with people coming out of American public schools.

 
3 people shot at immigration office in Dallas.

Notice it is described as an "enforcement office". DHS and local police haven't released details yet about motive but it was just a matter of time... it's part of why DHS is paying large sign-on bonuses to ICE agents.

The shooter killed himself (always assumed to be male). Details are just beginning to come out about how many others were injured/killed.

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3 people shot at immigration office in Dallas and the shooter is dead, official says

Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons confirmed the shooting during an interview on CNN on Wednesday.
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3 people shot at immigration office in Dallas and the shooter is dead, official says

Three people have been shot at an Immigration and U.S. Customs Enforcement facility in Dallas and the shooter is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the agency’s director said.

Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons confirmed the shooting during an interview on CNN on Wednesday.

“It could be employees, it could be civilians that were visiting the facility, it could be detainees,” Lyons said of those who were shot. “At this point, we’re still working through that.”
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Interesting that it was apparently the detainees who were killed although the reports are that the shooting seemed random.
 
rareboy said:
Interesting that it was apparently the detainees who were killed although the reports are that the shooting seemed random.
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There was an interview in the Dallas media where the brother of the shooter said that his brother had been working as a coder and wasn't political. The brother also said the shooter didn't have any particular experience with guns or rifles.

But already the narrative has begun that he was a radical leftist.

The thing that is scary is that this shooting took place from the rooftop of a building about 500 feet away. It used at AR15 and because the shooter was alleged to not have much experience with rifles or sharpshooting, he likely just sprayed the vans with bullets, not discriminating about how was in the van.
 
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