U.S. Economy and its Mess

[rareboy]

 

[rareboy]

No kidding! They should demand that ICE have to get actual evidence on people and stop invading homes or snatching people off the streets, for starters.
Hell, they could demand to defund ICE.

That would never be part of spending resolutions...

 

[rareboy]

Do you really think that Vance would have invested if he didn't know what was coming?

 

[rareboy]

So we can see the post COVID opportunism in the retail pricing for foods as corporations were suddenly let loose, then the levelling out and now the Trump surge.

 

[Kulindahr]

 

[NotHardUp1]

That would never be part of spending resolutions...

It's not as if the administration obeys Congress's appropriations as it is.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Don't worry. He'll soon return to blaming Biden, Obama, and Secretary Clinton.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Trump is in a trap.

The Democrats want him to reverse the Medicaid cuts in exchange for Democratic votes on the Continuing Resolution to keep the government open. They also want him to continue the additional supplemental payments for ACA plans that reduce the out-of-pocket premium payments for people who mean the poverty level requirements.
That's a lowball ask on the part of the Democrats since, in effect, they are bailing out the Republicans in the event that the Republican can't get the Freedom Caucus to vote for what the White House has proposed.

The Republicans are in this predicament because the previous Continuing Resolution required that a handful of Democrats vote for the extension just a few months ago. In both the last Continuing Resolution and this Continuing Resolution, the two sides weren't willing to renegotiate something that both parties could agree to support.

We're probably headed for a shutdown while both houses of Congress have been wasting time with performative nonsense.

I suspect that if the Dems don't shut it down this time, their base will be furious that they didn't do enough to thwart the excesses. Unfortunately, Trump will immediately pivot to melodrama and overreach.

Obviously he didn't write this.

Monumental is not in his vocabulary. He can't even pronounce it.

Of course, the Dems could be just pointing out that the GQP can just go ahead and pass their bill since they control both chamber

I don't think the budget can be passed by a simple majority, can it?

 

[KaraBulut]

I suspect that if the Dems don't shut it down this time, their base will be furious that they didn't do enough to thwart the excesses. Unfortunately, Trump will immediately pivot to melodrama and overreach.

It's likely that the Democrats don't have to do anything, except vote "No".

Pelosi, cold-blooded political strategist that she is, used to say when she was the leader in the minority that it is not the Democrat's responsibility to bail out Republicans who are in a pickle. I an ideal world, politicians do what is best for their constituents and the country but the reality of the situation is that when one side does what they want and doesn't compromise, but then they can't muster the votes to pass the legislation... well, Nancy is right. It's on the Republicans to pass the awful stuff they wrote.

 

[rareboy]

I suspect that if the Dems don't shut it down this time, their base will be furious that they didn't do enough to thwart the excesses. Unfortunately, Trump will immediately pivot to melodrama and overreach.

Monumental is not in his vocabulary. He can't even pronounce it.

I don't think the budget can be passed by a simple majority, can it?

The continuing resolution can be passed with a simple majority.

 

[NotHardUp1]

The continuing resolution can be passed with a simple majority.

I guess I was thinking of the appropriations.

And some things cannot be passed by other bills, like changes to Social Security, approval of Defense spending, etc.

 

[KaraBulut]

I guess I was thinking of the appropriations.

And some things cannot be passed by other bills, like changes to Social Security, approval of Defense spending, etc.

The process is so arcane.

If there is no debate (the motion to proceed passes and therefore, no filibuster), the bills must get 60 votes with the carve-out exceptions of budget bills and nominations.

If the motion to proceed fails, then unlimited debate begins. In this instance, bills can pass on simple majority after a cloture vote of 60 members to end a filibuster. They often pass them on a voice vote or by "unanimous consent".

 

[rareboy]

The cynical embrace of welfare and socialism as long as it is for corporations and farmers in red states.

 

[Alistair]

 

[rareboy]

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[Kulindahr]

A bit of history:

 

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