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Undying love for my best friend...please read(long

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Well they are going to be getting the pre-marital counseling from the Church prior to their wedding to see if everything is ok...so I guess that's one form of counseling.

I am leaning towards moving there next summer...I guess we will see how some things unfold. Will update you guys in a bit.

Brian
 
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Guys..I was walking Dante today and it just hit me...LIFE IS TOO FUCKING SHORT...Why DONT I just move out to Las Vegas THIS summer???

I mean my masters will be done...I will have some money saved...I have support from a best friend who is already out there...I'm all but guaranteed a job out there...so what exactly am I waiting for?..Is the extra year or two and the money it could bring worth not being near my bro and mising out on that??? Is it really worth missing hanging out with him and missing out on memories?

I dont know..just the thought of moving out there this summer has me excited...but then logic sets in..and right now I dont want it to set in..I was always a care free, spontaneous guy..and moving out there this summer would more fit my personality....it would shake my life up...I dunno...thoughts? :cool: :confused:
 
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KUL-Some Catholic Church here in NYC, guess they are going to lie about the having sex and living together before marriage...who knows.

As far as a good vs bad list..working on that right now...will maybe post it later...ttyl

Brian
 
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Left a message for Andy today and he called me back just now..he is in the Venetian, he sounded anxious, and he was saying how bored he is and how he wishes I was there...There is a LIVE cam on the net from the Imperial Palace(where his mother in law and her brother are staying this week-leaving Sunday), so I told him to go there later can call me so I can see him and speak to him on the phone...we both agreed that would be so cool.

He was walking around looking for his girl. She was shopping with her mom..and they left Andy out of the loop...the mother in law doesnt really like Andy...so she usually spends on Andy's girl and leaves him out..that's why he called me..he was upset.

Then he went walking in the Venetian looking for them and I heard the buzz of the people and the casino in the background and I do miss it dearly...it is so odd what you miss when you long for something or someone..you miss the small details..that no one notices but you.

He met up with his girl...and of course she has to fucking always ask who he's on the phone with..then she chimes in saying to Andy "We got this nice thing for the wedding..." blah blah blah, and that's when Andrew said he had to go and will call me later.

I miss him alot. I'm very down tonight. I'm leaning to going out there in a years time.

It is shocking to me and sad to me that May 3,2008 will still be very hard day for me...I am not looking foward to it.

Brian
 
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The Catholic church tends to use modified Marriage Encounter material for premarital counseling, and that is fantastic stuff -- I'm happy he's probably in good hands.
That mother-in-law thing isn't helpful, though. Like it or not, when you marry, you marry a whole family. I forget if that's addressed in the Marriage Encounter material; I know it was covered in the training I had, and I've applied it for a few friends.
A hint about that wouldn't hurt -- or a word to the priest with your concerns. If the priest is using some of the material I used to, you'll be getting a request for input anyway -- there are a couple of 'survey' type things that get views of each person from self, future spouse, best friend, family member... it's amazing hhow much those can differ, though the real key is whether she sees him the way he does, and vice versa.
 
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Kul Im not following your post..why are you focusing on the premarital counseling...and why is it an issue for me? Just curious my friend..Brian
 
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Just concerned that the marriage may go bad and he'll come back for support to you, or you'll get dragged into it -- and possibly blamed by her family. Things like that can get messy. Since you have gone far beyond the call of duty in helping Andy before, I just don't want to see something this important go sour and leave you supporting Andy again.
 
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Yeah...thanks for the advice and support.

I'm having a very bad night here tonight...feel all alone in my personal hell.

Broke out in crying fits that literally hurt my stomach...and all this out of the blue, not really thinking about anything. I'm trying hard to fight this depression and my demons.

Brian
 
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Yeah...thanks for the advice and support.

I'm having a very bad night here tonight...feel all alone in my personal hell.

Broke out in crying fits that literally hurt my stomach...and all this out of the blue, not really thinking about anything. I'm trying hard to fight this depression and my demons.

Brian

I'm not doing much better, dude.
Hang tough....
 
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What's doing with you...drop me a PM if you want..Bri
 
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Hi Brian, I've been following your story and mostly a lurker here on the forums until now. You've really inspired me to come out to my best friend and it went really well. I also fell in love with him who is straight but he has accepted that I'm bisexual. (*8*) and we're even more closer than ever. You're an incredible and honourable person :hurray: and my support goes out to everything you do in life! :cool: :=D: :gogirl: :goodluck

I just want to post this vid I found in youtube when I was searching for gay short/indie films. I'm not sure if you've seen it yet so I'll just post it anyways. It reminded me of your friendship with Andy and an ending I was hoping to see but I guess life's not a fairy tale I just wanted to share this with everyone (and pay close attention to the name in the top left corner in one scene).

Here goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLaC3Qw2I3c
 
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Dark-Thanks for posting and congratulations on coming out to your friend with what you were feeling, I am really glad the thread helped you with that. :hurray: I'm sorry to say my PC is not the best and I don't have DSL, so can you tell me a brief summary of the video with respect as to what happens? And what name is in the upper left corner? :confused:

Let me start off by saying I have been reading the other threads...and the advice given there. At first I did not want to read any threads relating the topic of mine because it was so draining to me. But I did...and I realize two things:

1) Straight guys are straight and there is no sense(for long periods of time anyway) longing for something you cannot have.
2) I know I have to in a sense, get a life. Occupying myself with new friends and other things ill make the love fade. I would throw distance in there too, but that did not seem to work in my case.

It is so odd. I see the validity in all of these points...yet deep in my head...there is always this BUT with me...and perhaps it will take another talk with Andrew on the subject to finalize it...or maybe his wedding will finalize it for me in my head. I don't know. :confused:

Andrew called me at 4:00am my time...1:00am his time. He immediately started off by saying he is extremely down and he kept repeating over and over "I miss you, I miss you, I miss you...please, please, please reconsider coming out here and living near me..." !oops!

He said he fought with his girl's mother in last all night because she kept going back and forth with him about his lack of money. So we talked a little about that. He said he liked our talk last night an that he wanted the same type of talk, because it made him happy. (*8*)

He said that our friendship is so unique and that me and him can only understand it...and no one else can. He said that he never knew he can miss someone as much as he misses me. (*8*)

He told me, "...all this has me second guessing everything...". :?

In my head I immediately think...marriage? sexuality? moving to Vegas? what?

So I ask what he meant by it. He said "Just everything". So I left it at that.

He said he can't go on like this anymore, that his pain is getting much too deep for him. Everything is fine out there, except for not having me near him.

He asked me, "If my life was on the line would you come out here?"

I said, "I would do anything for you regardless, and if your life was on the line..of course..."

He goes, "well Bri...my life IS on the line...I'm not goingto last much longer if I don't see you soon.."

I tried to change the topic, talking about his first day of work this week. I told him that will help him out in some aspects...and he goes "is that what you think this is about? Money? Sure that would help, but the main problem here is you...I miss you too much." :(

I started to cry a little..and he goes "you see what you are doing right there...I do that every night.."

He continued, "Please come back Brian. I will make sure nothing bad happens to you..I know you have fears and I will watch over you. We can make things work out together. I will go walking with you every night to get into shape...I can use it too. You will definitely meet a guy out here...even if you have to meet one in California, which will be close by...please...I am begging you, come back out here. We can all go on picnics together and see movies and just BBQ(all things we did together last time). It would be like a family again. I wish I knew what would make you happy Brian, I would give it to you in a second."

He said he started smoking again because he is so stressed.

I told him I would love to be in his shoes for a day. That he has life set for him..marriage, partner for life, future family, in Vegas, etc...and his response was(with a chuckle), "well you believe whatever you want if you think I'm happy, if you think I have everything. I wish you can get inside MY head for a day and you tell me how you feel."

In between our conversation he would be yelling at his girl:roll: , who wasn't doing the laundry right, and then took his clothes out to wash her mom's clothes. It was so odd(but typical Andy) when he would scream at her, then come back to the talk with me where he was being sweet and full of emotion. I swear if I was her I'd be treating Andrew like a king. She doesn't know what a truly wonderful guy she has. And maybe that's what is going on here..maybe in the long run I repsect and love and care for Andrew more than she does him. I don't know.

Anyway I ended the talk a little bit later on...saying I was too drained from crying and that we would speak tomorrow. :zzz:

Brian
 
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Today was a somewhat better day. Got out and spent the day with my parents and my older(gay) brother. We went shoppig and to lunch, where my brother talked about adopting a kid...and where I laid out a plan to my folks, where as we rent the apartments in our house out and use the rent to help get us houses in the future..anyway it's a long story that I will tell you all about soon.

Came home to 2 calls by Andy and 3 calls by Andy's mom.

I called mom back first, left a message. Then I called and spoke to Andy. He said he was still down...and I asked why..he goes "you know why..". Anyway he was leaving to go to the mall to pick up his girl and her mother.

Andy's mom calls back and says to me..Bri..keep this between you and me ok? But do you get the feeling Andy is not looking foward to the wedding? I said I don't think he is at all. We both agreed that we did no know the reason.

I think it is one of three reasons.

1.) He does not want a big wedding, and he is not interested in having a big thing.
2.) Andy does not want to get married and locked into something.
3.)He is questioning things, personal issues.

Anyway his mom said that she doesnt understand why he doesnt open up to her..and she said she is thankful I am there for Andy as I have been there like a brother for him and fully looking out and supporting him since I have known him.

She told me to keep her up to date with Andy...and I said I would.

We both will speak later.

Brian
 
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He needs to open up to someone, that's for sure!

Keep him talking, Bri -- maybe he'll break down, admit it's you he loves, dump her, and both your dreams will come true. I know, not likely, but there's something eating at him that he's not dealing with.
 
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We had another talk last night that lasted hours.

I got on the subject of Jessica Simspon being with John Mayer..and Andy goes, I dont kow what she is doing with him, Nick Lachey was better looking and more handsome. He goes hey even a straight guy can figure that one out.

I thought that was cool.

He said what was Nick Lachey's favorite sports team...and I said I don't know...and he goes it was on the show all the time...I said bro, when I was watching the show, his sports team wasn't the main thing I was focused on...and he goes you were probably staring at his dick...I started laughing and he goes thats cool...I took care of stariing at Jessica...

We talked about our dogs and of course missing each other...and w called.. it a night, promised to speak today.

Brian
 
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I've just read your story all teh way through and man I can relate. About 2 years ago, my best friend told me he was moving to New Orleans over the phone. Almost immediately, I just broke down while I was talking to him. He tried his best to comfort me, but I kept sobbing. I did that for about a month straight, then Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. When I first heard about that, I had mixed feelings. On one hand, I was still upset that his family was planning on moving, but on the other hand I was happy because that hurricane might be enough to keep him here with me. His family did end up staying here.
The point is that I know how heart-breaking it is when your best friend moves. I'm happy you two are still so close. Best of all, he's okay with you being gay. I think having a friend be so close to you is very rare and should be cherished. Your so blessed to have him. Who knows you twoo might end up together some day.
 
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Thanks Vulture for your advice/personal story...

I walked 13th ave here in Brooklyn to go run some errands and as soon as I hitthe avenue I got a call from Andrew. He seemed down still, he said he was on the Strip by Harrah's and they were all looking for something to eat. His mother in law and her brother go home today at 10pm Vegas time so they were just hanging out. He said he would call me later and we hung up. I got pretty down as you might have guessed..and then how thought how odd it was that I am walking in Brooklyn and he was walking the Strip in Vegas.

As I was walking the sun set here in NYC and the lights from the traffic signals and the stores began to glow and to light up the neighborhood...I was thinking of the similarities and huge differences between the lights here and in Vegas...just before the sun sets and when lights from stores and cars and traffic light up the streets is my favorite time of day for some reason.

I got down and called Andy back just to say I was missing him and he said the same. Andy's mom called me a few minutes later and asked what's up and that she will call me later.

Alright thanks for listening, I'm going to walk Dante and do some stuff around the house before the Oscars start. Peace.

Brian
 
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I haven't posted in a while, but I've kept-up from time to time.

It just occurred to me. Perhaps Andy's waiting for you to tell him "dump the bitch, move back here and I'll help you sort things out."

And if his mother feels the same way, he'll know he has a small support-structure in place if he moves back.

It seems he is more unhappy there than he is happy, if that makes any sense.
 
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Hey Liam, good to see you man...I think Andy is more unhappy than happy. And the reason for that unhappiness is me not being near him. Plain and simple.

I think it would be out of place for me to say for him to dump his girl. Sometimes I wish he would, and sometimes I don't know. One tiem I did tell him I wish I was single and we were roomates. I told him We would have fun and go out all the time andh e wouldn't have to worry about being locked down...but I told him that over a year ago.

But thanks for posting, will probably update in a bit when I speak to Andrew.

And the Oscar goes to.....

Brian
 
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