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I know you're in pain, but I honestly feel you should take the plunge once and for all. Prolonging it, dragging it out, can only lead to more sorrow, and will only end badly.

If you feel the need to wait, then wait, don't come within an inch of it and then back away. It may just confuse your friend to no end.

Good luck!
 
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I'm sorry you're going through such hell with this right now. I hope you muster the strength to tell him soon...tonight. He's probably worried about why you're so upset. Time to get this out, my friend.

(*8*)
 
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LV,

As I'm sure you have noticed, I don't use a lot of words, I just say what I see:

  1. He hangs out with his "other" friends secretly and tries to hide it from you. This means that he either feels that you are a bit too obsessive, and it's too much of a pain in the ass to tell you that he wants to have other friends too, so he tries to hide it, OR he has "special" feelings for you that he doesn't want to show in front of them. I have a friend who was seeing a guy, but would never let him around when he wanted to hang with the straight friends because his bf was so "clingy".
  2. You have to be very careful not to be too obsessive. I don't know if that is the case, but a couple of things you said indicated that it might be. That will definately ruin any prospective relationship.
  3. Based on the conversations that took place while you were parked and then again when you got home, I believe that he definately knew what it was that you wanted to tell him, but he didn't have the sack to just say it (nor did you). It sounds to me like he just wants you to come out and say it first...but then that's what you want him to do as well. So, it is either going to come down to who has the biggest balls in this deal...or it's not going to happen at all, and you're both going to go on being miserable for it for ever.
Seriously, even if he isn't gay...I feel certain that he knows that's your deal and he desperately wants you to be the first one to say it.

Good luck, my friend. Keep us posted.
 
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Arrgh...Why do I keep coming back to this thread...I can't keep away from it...I suspect that it's because I have BEEN THERE, I FEEL for you, and I HOPE that you don't live with as much regret as I have. Anyway:

Another thing on my mind is that he actually said to you, "You want me to leave my wife?"...I can't stop thinking about that he really said that. I wonder what would have happend if you had said, "Yes". It's almost as if he was hoping that you would.

Also,
The deal about him not wanting you around his straight friends...What I was trying to say (and not sure that I did) was, he is afraid that one of you will blow the cover. He is either afraid that A) You will let it out to his buddies that you are gay and so his best friend is gay, which he wants to hide, or B) He is afraid that HE might do something (or say something) that will show them that he loves you. Either way is not acceptable to him right now, which is OK. You have to let him deal with whatever is the correct scenario on his own terms. But that's in regards to other people.


As for the two of you privately, I feel that BOTH of you recognize that there is an "elephant in the room" and you both want to kill it immediately! Who's gonna make the first move?????


Your friend,
Mike
 
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Well , it is about eleven thirty here where I am at ... Hopefully; YOU are with him NOW and telling him how you feel ...
Some of the guys here are saying you'll see him in six months ; BUT that would also give him six month to get closer to the woman who he'l be living with ...and if she happens to get with child ...You'll NEVER have him !!!
Therefore; it is best to tell him NOW ..TONIGHT ....
 
Update

Hey guys, what's going on?


My friend called me late last night around a quarter to 12 in the evening. I was sleeping and he woke me up. I answered the phone and said what's up, how's it going, etc..He asked me if I was ok because he had been real worried about me because of my crying earlier in the evening..I said I was better..which I was. I pretty much was drained from all the crying and took two aspirin and konked out...We both told each other what we have always told each other..we are both sad and will not know how to deal with all of this..we stated how fast it was coming and we talked a little more about what we are both nervous about....

This went on till about a little after one in the morning...and than I just told him that I felt bad that the time went quick and I wish I had more time. He stated the same..I also said I was upset because there were some things I wanted to talk to him about and straighten out with him but felt it was too busy a time and too short a time to do so..I said "Buddy I been fake to you in same ways and a fake to a lot of people,,," and he said "well what do you mean?" and I said "I just dont know.." and he replied "does this have to do with that secret you have been keeping from me?"...and I said "yes.."...I went back and forth with him for a good half an hour..playing cat and chase with what the secret might be...and I nervously started coughing...and gaging and eventually threw up while on the phone with him! My buddy was laughing his ass of because he said that cough always means Im very nervous....


He said "Bri..I think I kind of know what the secret is...and I want you to know that I do not care and that you are always my brother and best friend and nothing can ever change that..Brian..I kind of in the past few months have gone over what it could possibly be and I have went with all types of scenarios..weird...bad..and good..and I narrowed it down to the biggest I could think of..one..that you either hurt or killed somebody...or two..that you are going to tell me you are gay..."


After he said this I felt so incredibly happy , but even after he said all of this I was still very scared...I stated that "you know how I have had a problem with girls..and the problem isnt that I cant get girls and that they dont want me..but I think in some way it might be that I dont want them...I can be clicking with a girl on every level but just not one important level..." He goes "ok..how long has this been going on?" and I go"for a while.."and he goes are you gay? and I go..I don't know..and he goes well do you feel more right with a man or a girl..and I said "man, buddy..i feel more right with a man"...and he goes so you are telling me you are gay bri? and I say "yeah I am buddy..I am gay..."

And he goes "first I want to tell you that while its not my preference..I respect that its yours and that I want you to be happy and not depressed anymore...and to be honest I kind of figured this was what was bothering you even when I first met you..and I tried to drop hints but I didnt think you picked up on them and I gave you every chance to tell me..." He asked me why I was so afraid to tell him...and I said "its not something you easily say to someone and when our friendship crossed the boundary into brotherhood..I became afraid to tell you..because of your reaction"..

He said "my reaction!?!? I still love you the same way and now I think we can be closer because of this...In fact the only reason I was getting mad at you was because you were not telling me..." He said "and if I did react bad..that would mean Im ignorant..but Im not reacting bad..its ok..I want you to be happy"..and he said "you are going to be judged by many people and called many things..but never by me" He also said "you can always come to me about anything and if this is the biggest thing that has been bothering you all this time, you dont have to worry..we are brothers for life..." He said "I was getting a littler nervous that not that you were gay but that you were in love with me.." and I said "no thats not the case at all" !oops! He then said "but bri even if that were the case I would not be mad at you, I would just tell you thats no my thing and we would still be cool"....

The conversation was one of our longest, till about 12 midnight to 5:30 in the morning....He told me "You already sound a lot happier..I bet a huge weight has been lifted off your shoulders" and I said "This whole conversation is surreal I cannot believe we just talked about all of this" and he said" Bri..Im going to miss you so very much and I still want you to come out here to Vegas with me" By then I was just too happy..so ecstatic and yet at the same time it seemed so natural..he was very calm about the whole thing..He didnt even react AT ALL like reg guys do and say "Hey wait a minute..you mean that time we were rough housing, you were attracted to me!?!?..or anything like that..He asked If i had been with a guy and when was the last..he joked about "I hope your the man in the relationship" and I said "hey!" and he goes "hey what?? Im your brother and I love you..I can get away with making fun like that.." and I said "thats totally cool..and Im so glad I was able to speak to you, and thank you for everything.." he said "for what..thank you for everything!"

I then started to end the call and say goodnight and he was like "you trying to get rid of me?" and Im like "no of course not" and he goes "well good because Im not tired and I can stay up forever talking to you"..and so we did for an hour more..he said he was glad that I got my biggest problem out of the way and that his problems are just beginning when he moves....and the biggest one is "that bri u wont be in vegas"..He goes "I think my life will end if I dont have you out there with me.." and I said bro you'll be just fine.." and he goes "well it certainly feels like my life is ending"

He asked me who I was going to tell and he told me to expect negative reactions. I think he took pride that he was probably the only one I will ever tell...And he said are you going to tell ******, his fiancee and I said "the most important thing is that you know and I think ill tell her when Im ready"..and he said "if you want to keep it between me and you Im cool with that"..He also said that I dont know how she is going to take it..I cant get a read off of her sometimes, he said..and he said it didn matter her reaction, all that metters was his..I said to him that I think that she pretty much knows bout me already and he said really? and that he was not so sure..We then talked more about missing each other and his plans the next two days and then finally at 5:30 we ended our talk with the desire to hang with each other then next night..


He asked me a a few questions here and there about me being gay..like "bri can you ever see yourself living with a guy?" and I said "yeah"...I also told him that just because Im gay doesnt mean anything anything e changes, which is true..and hes said "I know, thats cool"...He asked me if I lied to him bout being with girls and I said no, that I have been with a handful of girls and while I did get turned on..the girl just didnt do it for me and it felt better with a guy..and he said ok thats cool..



I cannot believe that I had the balls to tell him this...and yes it was on the phone but our talks are so deep that it is just like talking in person...the same..no..but just as good..I asked him if when we see each other if things might be weird..and he goes no why..and I told him that when people come out in other forms other than in person, often the first time hanging can be weird...and he said I never have to be weird around him ever and he accepts me for who I am.....


I couldnt have imagined this going anymore better...I never went to sleep this morning and often times had to pinch myself to tell myself it wasnt a dream....there you go guys I took the moment by the balls and I ran with it!!!!!!! tell me what you guys think...there is probably so much Im forgetting right now..Im typing this right just as I got home from work...so Ill have more posts later..brian

I got an odd vibe from him that maybe he was jealous?? in an odd way that I came out and that I seemed happier and that might my life was just beinning now and to get on tract..dont know if thats common or not..But anyway..he assured me that hes glad that my life will begin now...and that he just wishes I was with him in Vegas...Brian
 
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What a wonderful story! :luv:

I'm so happy and proud of you. \:/

It must be a huge relief to finally let it out. Have fun with the remainding time with your buddy and thanks for sharing your story. I'm sure it's touched many people. Now on to the next phase of your life and its adjustments. Good luck and thank you again for sharing your adventures in life. :=D:
 
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Oh, thank God! I feel like I've just had an orgasm here in St. Louis--that was the biggest build up in ages.

Congratulations!!! It was a huge step for you, and you did it. And, to the most important person in your life. :=D:

I know your head is spinning right now with lots of thoughts and emotion. But, I have to ask--how do you feel about the fact that he's not apparently gay himself?

It will be interesting to see what happens when you get together tonight. Tomorrow is the dreaded day. Please keep in touch with us and let us know how you're doing.

I'm sure everyone reading this thread is as proud of you as I am. Good job! ..|
 
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well done. be proud. Joe
 
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averageguy said:
Oh, thank God! I feel like I've just had an orgasm here in St. Louis--that was the biggest build up in ages.

Congratulations!!! It was a huge step for you, and you did it. And, to the most important person in your life. :=D:

I know your head is spinning right now with lots of thoughts and emotion. But, I have to ask--how do you feel about the fact that he's not apparently gay himself?

It will be interesting to see what happens when you get together tonight. Tomorrow is the dreaded day. Please keep in touch with us and let us know how you're doing.

I'm sure everyone reading this thread is as proud of you as I am. Good job! ..|



Still riding high on my feelings....just met him and his fiancee so I could help them get a UHAUL hitch thing for thir car and we all said we would see each other later tonight...he told me he will in fact be leaving before I come home from work tomorrow and that he will leave while Im at work..I guess in a way it makes it easier..but also very hard at the same time too..I love him so very much..

It does hurt me in a small way that he is apparently straight..oh the relationship and times we could have had..but also in some way I like this better..he finally knows me!!! and ultimately loves me and i now know this..he is one in a million...I will keep you updated how tonight and the remaining few days go...

P.S.-I started t get very nervous when he told me he need to swing by quick to see me for the UHAUL...I mean this WAS the first time I would be seeing him,,,nothing different at all...same old great buddies...Brian
 
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averageguy said:
Oh, thank God! I feel like I've just had an orgasm here in St. Louis--that was the biggest build up in ages.

........

Not only in St Louis.... :D

LostVegas - This is a GREAT story (and your writing is almost cinematic, it was like being there and with some suspense too). I'm happy to hear that everything went well with your best friend. This was a major step and I'm very proud of you.
Thanks for sharing your story.
 
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Lost Vegas, Congrats on your successful 'coming out' to your friend! I've been watching this thread from the beginning and checking several times a day for your updates. (By the way, I'm a little bitter that you have to work and sleep - the suspense was killing me!) Keep us updated on how things go and thanks for sharing this story. Meanwhile, there are plenty of us sending you lots of good thoughts/energy!
 
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:gogirl:

(*8*)

(!)


Thank you all so very much. The overwhelming outpouring of support here has been beyond anything I could ever have imagined...My writing was all over the map but I'm so very glad you all came with me for the ride...and it is not over yet..so many things now to experience and do and just really feel like Im floating on air and walking on sunshine...cue cheesy song...

But I spent the past hour writing them both a 5 page letter to take with them on their journey..and I gave them two dollar bills with messages of love and luck written on it so they tie it and put it in their car..not sure if this is done with anyone else, but he does it as a good luck thing..

I WILL let you all know how tonight goes, since it seems tonight I will be the last time I see him till August..in a way Im also glad that when I see him in August..i will be that much stronger..talk to you all soon..

..| And thanks to each and every one of you all who responded and even those that just read it..I hope this proves that not every story ends bad and things can actually get better...I am living proof of that..my best regards..Brian ..|
 
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Woot woot! CONGRATULATIONS LV!

I knew you could do it, and I knew it'd turn out great. WOW! What I'd do to have a buddy like yours :/ Your best friend IS one in a million (probably even rarer than that).

I'm glad you're feeling great despite his being straight. At least you have some closure on that issue now, and you can move on to growing as a person, as who you REALLY are. Congratulations.

You should go treat youself to something nice!
 
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AHHHH!!!!!!! Yes!!!! Woohoo!!! LV, I'm so friggen happy for you!!! (*8*) <---so happy that I actually used this emoticon.

Dude, I was thinking about you when I got in from work...I was looking for an update, and there was nothing. On the way to the gym, (about the time you posted) I was hoping and praying that you were able to follow through...AH! I'm so bloody excited right now!

I'm glad to see that you're happy, too. This happiness thing looks good on you...you should keep it for a while. :)

Have fun tonight.
 
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Congrats, I'm so happy for you. This is like better than any move/tv show/book I"ve read in a long time. I wonder what he woudl have said if you said YES you were in love with him. Oh well, you got your solution, and I'm happy for you.
 
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Congrats for telling him at last .... It sounds as tghough HE may be Gay also or at the very least I'd say that he is BI ....
 
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Brian,

Good job! You just took care of some business that hundreds (millions) of us wish we would have done "back when".

I gotta tell ya, for the past week, I've been going straight to this thread as soon as I get home every day as if this was the friggin Sopranos or something! BTW, I can't WAIT for the sequel ;) . I mean, come on....the first trip to Vegas...assuming the two of you can get some time away from "Her"...well...let's face it, Brian, straight guys just don't go around sayin' "I love you" to one another. So, we're all going to be anxiously awaiting the 'next chapter'.

But, you know, he was just waiting for you to bring it up first, and you were just wanting him to do the same thing. How GREAT you must feel to get this off of your shoulders. I'm sorry that your love interest in him isn't working out, but I can assure you that your 'buddy' relationship is going to be SO much better, if you'll just stay in touch!

Congrats, and keep us posted. :=D: :=D: :=D: :=D: :=D:
 
New chapter...

It is 3:51 am here on the east coast and I just got in from saying goodbye to my buddy...I almost did not know what would be harder..coming out to my friend or saying goodbye to him..it was close I tell you..real close...

I fell asleep and woke up and saw the clock..it was 11:30pm..I thought holy shit, it is so late and I have not heard from him..he had told me he needed to say goodbye to some people..so I just figured his house was busy with all of that...

I called him and since it was late I let the phone ring once...he called me back immediately crying..I could not make out what he was saying..I said "calm down buddy..it will be ok..can I come over?" He said "Im sending a car for you, come on over"..I got there and found him and his fiancee on the front steps crying...he told her to go inside and said that he wanted to go for a walk with me around the block a few times...we walked a little..it was very cold out..and eerily quiet for Brooklyn at night..He said I know yesterday was hard for you..and now you are here in person and I hope its just easy for you..he also said.."be who you are and let no one take that from you"...

We walked a little more and he asked if I would come on in..he goes "I know you have a problem seeing the house empty and stuff..but please come in.." I go in I say hello to his brother in law and assure him that Im here for him too if he needs anything..I talked to her for a while..made some jokes..then hung out with my buddy in his room while playing XBOX..he told me this shouldnt be happening and its hard...He gave me a watch and a Vegas keychain and offered me his new xbox 360 as reminders of him to keep...I started to cry...we joked some more..than I said my last goodbye to his girl...and he said o he that me and brian are going for a walk...


We head out and start walking..we talk some more and more ..we sound like broken records right now to each other....he goes lets just go sit in the car, its warm in there and we could talk longer...we couldnt go for one of our drives, we both were dying to, but he had the trailer hitched onto the car and its hard getting spots in Brooklyn..so there we sat..nice and warm in the car...he said this reminds me of you..and plays Madonna's I'll Remember for me and he played This Used To Be My Playground..and Savage Garden's Truly Madly Deeply...in the house prior to this he was with his girl, kissing her saying ti was going be ok..it didnt get to me like it used to get to me because I think im acting different now that I am out and it makes it better in a way..I dont obsess as much...but I tell you hes night and day when he hangs with me...very emotional and more like me...He never shows feelings and thoughts and says words like he does to me when shes around and I am fine with that..I have my own little special relationship with him that no one has...He told me that "Bri..I know you told me you were gay...and I think you might be confused..you might be into both guys and girls..but even if you are just into guys..thats cool too..let no one force you to be someone your not..He told me that Im always welcome to come down and live with him, without even calling..just come down..he goes Bri, my parents would have to call, my other friends would have to call, but you never have to call...I started crying saying how much he is going be on my mind and I will always be thinking about where he is and what he is doing..

Each time I would break out in sobs he put his hand on my head and rubbed it..and the final, bad outburst Ii had in the car here goes "come here" and he pulls my head towards him and he makes my head rest on him...I said Im ready bro..lets just do this..I got out of the car and I just broke down so bad..he stood 5 feet away just looking at me tearing up..we walked to his house and I broke more and more down...He said "bri, please stop crying..I am always here for you and always will be.." I kept crying and crying..we went inside to get warmed up...and then I said..ok..I really am ready..he goes your not going to cry are you and I said no...

I offered him my hand and he held it tightly and said..come here..he got up and we hugged each other for what seemed like an eternity but was in reality like 30 seconds...Our ears were pressed together and my arms were hugging him tightly..I started crying and he squeezed me back to show me things will be ok..I broke the hug and headed to the door and broke down terribly as I was walking out he opened the door back up and said Bro..I love ya and I will call you tomorrow and please do not cry anymore..and with that I nodded a weak "sure" and left sobbing....I will miss him very much...it hurts right now. thanks..Brian
 
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I got out of bed just to check this thread again. This is so, so extremely sad and depressing. And I'm only reading about it!

LV, we're here for you bud. Hang in there. Try to look on the bright side- your buddy knows who you really are, and he accepts you and loves you no matter what! And he isn't going away permanently... you'll see him again eventually, and you can even fly over to visit and stuff.

Things will be alright. Smile, hold your head up, and be strong for him. :)
 
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