On Topic Discussion What do you think about bisexuals?

[TX-Beau]

Very true, unless you're into sluts.

SLUT SHAMING!!!!!

While we're at it....

 

[xbuzzerx]

And women on okcupid are ready to come over for a hookup? Usually that indicates they're a slut. Different perceptions of women and men lead to different behavior.

I can turn on grindr and have sex in 5 minutes. Not the same for okcupid. You're being willingly dense at this point which is disappointing.

Yes. One of my good friends slept with 19 girls from OKCupid last year. He kept count. And he wasn't exactly throwing all of his time at attempting to find them, either.

It's glorified straight grindr with a little bit more pretense and posturing, but ultimately it's used by young heterosexuals for hookups.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Yes. Fantasizing is mentally training for something, as well, so it's pretty stupid to fantasize about something you'd never do. I can't picture any way to make it worth the effort.

Maybe that's why most porn is about as exciting to me as sitting in a ditch of stagnant water.

Kuli, I can't even take this seriously. We'd have to believe you aren't even acquainted with the genre known as FICTION in the bookstore if you tried to stand by this claim.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

I'm fairly sure if you blindfolded me and left me in a room and someone 89 years old who was a decent kisser came in and felt me up and made out with me, I'd get hard. That's what always happened for me with women even though I am a gay guy. Some of these are simple biological reactions to physical contact, and not a function of one specific sexuality.

You're distracting from my point which is that there are many possible reasons why a bi individual has never had sex with a woman or a man.

There may be attempts at pursuit but not success. But even if there is something preventing that pursuit it does not disqualify someone from being bi as if there is a missing vital agreement.
If so, as Kuli said, there are a lot of shy virgins out there who must be asexual

 

[Gentleheart]

getting a little too heterosexual in here...

 

[Kulindahr]

Well, that's your personal choice.

There's no choice involved. I'd get more pleasure or satisfaction from watching paint peel than fantasizing about something I'd never do. Watching paint peel at least offers the possibility of ending up doing something real -- scraping off all the loose paint and repainting.

Plenty of people fantasize about things they'd never do. Most, in fact.

I don't get it.

 

[xbuzzerx]

You're distracting from my point which is that there are many possible reasons why a bi individual has never had sex with a woman or a man.

And I can't think of any of them which would allow a healthy and full sex life with men and never any opportunity whatsoever to ever pursue a woman. Sorry.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

Yes. One of my good friends slept with 19 girls from OKCupid last year. He kept count. And he wasn't exactly throwing all of his time at attempting to find them, either.

It's glorified straight grindr with a little bit more pretense and posturing, but ultimately it's used by young heterosexuals for hookups.

One it's not. There's a lot more than posturing and pretense. You have to actually find someone who is looking for sex and if you really are going to compare okcupid which is a dating app where you have to work to get laid vs grindr where the primary function is to get laid, then you are really desperate.

Two, aside from your friend telling you. Have you actually tried yourself? Because I have both straight and male friends who use okcupid and it is nothing like grindr. I use it myself and aside from the straight guy who is actually bicurious and a few unattractive older women, there is no blatant pursuit of sex by women.

 

[Rolyo85]

Most of what you've posted here is nothing but trying to evade objective, rational thought. I'm not going to indulge in your evasions, any more than I would put a section describing a picnic area on the lower slope of a volcano in a paper about the geology of that volcano.

I don't evade anything. My claim has been the same since my first post - bisexuality is real, but many guys use it to mask their HOMOsexuality, by claiming some theoretical, sorta-there-but-not-really-acted-upon attraction to the opposite gender. I say those guys are full of shit, and the fact that you avoid giving ANY arguments that defend your position, tells me you know it too. This whole topic has been nothing more than a giant clusterfuck of people being outraged that the idea of bisexuality is being questioned at all, while carefully avoiding ANY specific examples or in ANY way giving personal info. My sexuality is on my sleeve, I talked about it here, gave examples from my personal experience. Yet the other side, WHATEVER it is actually defending (which isn't quite clear) is religious in its vagueness.

And now it's deteriorated to you being "too good" to actually address anything, and are just being a Jack Springer and bashing minor points in other people's posts, without actually making any real arguments. Congratulations, you've created "another bisexual thread"

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Agree with this. And finding sex with a male is a lot easier for a guy than finding sex with a female these days

Only if you're in gay culture, and in a big city, OR entirely into the anonymous scene. 90% of humanity isn't.

 

[xbuzzerx]

I don't get it.

Fantasies for most people cover the things they can't do in real life, or wouldn't do in real life.

Whether that's what you'd do if you won the lottery or which 10 historical villains you'd like to shoot or what superhero power you'd like to have and what you'd do with it.

It's idiotic to claim that someone ever fantasizing about something, ever, translates into direct will to do, and therefore proves a sexuality. It doesn't.

 

[xbuzzerx]

One it's not. There's a lot more than posturing and pretense. You have to actually find someone who is looking for sex and if you really are going to compare okcupid which is a dating app where you have to work to get laid vs grindr where the primary function is to get laid, then you are really desperate.

That's because society trains women that if they're just out looking for sex they're whores. So there's posturing. But one nighters galore happen off OKCupid.

I'm sorry, I can't take seriously some claim that you are a bisexual who pursues men only because women are too hard to find or pursue. Straight women outnumber us exponentially.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

Fantasies for most people cover the things they can't do in real life, or wouldn't do in real life.

Whether that's what you'd do if you won the lottery or which 10 historical villains you'd like to shoot or what superhero power you'd like to have and what you'd do with it.

It's idiotic to claim that someone ever fantasizing about something, ever, translates into direct will to do, and therefore proves a sexuality. It doesn't.

But you fantasize about what you WANT to do and what you DESIRE

That's the whole point

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm fairly sure if you blindfolded me and left me in a room and someone 89 years old who was a decent kisser came in and felt me up and made out with me, I'd get hard. That's what always happened for me with women even though I am a gay guy. Some of these are simple biological reactions to physical contact, and not a function of one specific sexuality.

I had that thought earlier and forgot about it. It's a good point: I've gotten hard from the wind blowing on my skin, but I hardly have a sexual thing for wind. Heck, I remember once laying out by the pool during a break for my pool staff, and a beetle crawled across my speedo, and I got hard, and another when a cat jumped onto my lap, settled against my crotch, and started purring -- but beetles and cats don't turn me on.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

That's because society trains women that if they're just out looking for sex they're whores. So there's posturing. But one nighters galore happen off OKCupid.

I'm sorry, I can't take seriously some claim that you are a bisexual who pursues men only because women are too hard to find or pursue. Straight women outnumber us exponentially.

And you're missing the point. Finding SEX as a gay male is easier. Finding sex with ATTRACTIVE men is a hell of a lot easier than finding sex with ATTRACTIVE women.

I pursue both romantically. Sexually it's just a hell of a lot easier and less time consuming to have sex with men.

The women who give it up that easy are usually loose and less attractive. Just a fact.

 

[Rolyo85]

You're distracting from my point which is that there are many possible reasons why a bi individual has never had sex with a woman or a man.

There may be attempts at pursuit but not success. But even if there is something preventing that pursuit it does not disqualify someone from being bi as if there is a missing vital agreement.
If so, as Kuli said, there are a lot of shy virgins out there who must be asexual

So if there are many possible reasons, WHAT ARE SOME OF THEM? Pretty please?

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Yes. One of my good friends slept with 19 girls from OKCupid last year. He kept count. And he wasn't exactly throwing all of his time at attempting to find them, either.

It's glorified straight grindr with a little bit more pretense and posturing, but ultimately it's used by young heterosexuals for hookups.

Not in gay world. The gay side of OkCupid is purely for dating and people who come looking for hook ups get laughed out of it.

 

[Kulindahr]

Kuli, I can't even take this seriously. We'd have to believe you aren't even acquainted with the genre known as FICTION in the bookstore if you tried to stand by this claim.

I don't fantasize about fiction -- and I get no enjoyment from any that talks about things I would never do. If I can't imagine myself in the place of at least one of the characters, it's about as exciting as reading the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. Actually, it's less exciting, because chemistry and physics are at least fun.

 

[xbuzzerx]

But you fantasize about what you WANT to do and what you DESIRE

That's the whole point

Fantasy can be purely what-if. I have a broad enough imagination to have at least theorized about what a relationship with all of my friends (male and female) would be like. That's not a desire to actually pursue them.

 

[xbuzzerx]

And you're missing the point. Finding SEX as a gay male is easier. Finding sex with ATTRACTIVE men is a hell of a lot easier than finding sex with ATTRACTIVE women.

I pursue both romantically. Sexually it's just a hell of a lot easier and less time consuming to have sex with men.

The women who give it up that easy are usually loose and less attractive. Just a fact.

Did you not identify as gay a page back?

Why are you suddenly so fiercely defending your newfound bisexuality?

 

[Kulindahr]

You're distracting from my point which is that there are many possible reasons why a bi individual has never had sex with a woman or a man.

There may be attempts at pursuit but not success. But even if there is something preventing that pursuit it does not disqualify someone from being bi as if there is a missing vital agreement.
If so, as Kuli said, there are a lot of shy virgins out there who must be asexual

There's a bi guy here who doesn't date gals, because all the ones from here worth having are either married or have left town to go someplace with a future. And most of the unmarried gals in this town who would be willing to have sex would be trying to use it to manipulate you.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

So if there are many possible reasons, WHAT ARE SOME OF THEM? Pretty please?

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Not in gay world. The gay side of OkCupid is purely for dating and people who come looking for hook ups get laughed out of it.

I had severe social anxiety that I didn't even begin to combat until I was 22.
I went to an all boys high school. I was more comfortable around guys. Social situations like trying to hit on anyone though gave me symptoms like having a heart attack.

It was much easier to communicate with people online. I have been attracted to both men and women as long as I can remember. Unfortunately finding women online, especially young women, for sex or dating at that point was pointless unless you wanted a tech-savy prostitute.

I've really only been better about in person interactions with strangers for the past 2 years. While id love to have sex with a woman, I'm not into sluts and Im selective. So maybe by this time next week I'll have had sex with a woman. I'm still looking for opportunities.

There are many other people who are straight who have been in my situation. And it my situation exists I'm sure there are countless others.

Narrow-mindedness isn't attractive.