What do you think of this HIV results service?

[hello2all]

who says I want to download data that's public anyway? how about I change it? Slander, anyone?

And Amazon does not have my financial information by the way.

Oh and "lol" what a coincidence that you post from the same area where this service is being operated from.

well if you are concerned about someone retrieving your hiv status information and trying to do something with it, then the site isn't for you. but i encourage you to read more information or at least contact the site and ask them about that. i really don't see it as a threat though...and if i turned up hiv poz, i wouldn't want to be part of the site really. but to each his own.

and yes, it is a coincidence that i'm in the same location this site operates from.

 

[rareboy]

well i have my financial information on Amazon as we speak, as do MILLIONS of other people. same for EBAY and other sites. it's a risk we're all taking i guess.
IF someone did try attempt to do something with data, how would it compromise you? If you're negative, yeah that's information someone could use again you, lol...sure! If you're poz and still part of the site, i'm assuming that individual would have no problem with others knowing they are hiv positive, otherwise they wouldve removed themselves from it. this thing is optional and if you turn up poz you can remove yourself. poz people can join though, and instead of sharing your status, you'd be sharing your CD4 count and whatnot.

So the idea is to prove you are negative to someone you might fuck.

A service like the one you are talking about has no clinical credibility or accreditation.

And being tested every 6 months? The results could be totally out of date. So if I'm in month 5 and negative, why would my fuck puppet for the night accept that there is no risk.

There should be no issue with having to prove status.

If someone is poz and they know it, they have a legal obligation to inform.

If you don't know or aren't absolutely sure, play safe until each of you is tested and you are in a committed monogamous relationship.

That doesn't need a data bank.

I think this 'service' is a terrible idea.

 

[hello2all]

So the idea is to prove you are negative to someone you might fuck.

A service like the one you are talking about has no clinical credibility or accreditation.

And being tested every 6 months? The results could be totally out of date. So if I'm in month 5 and negative, why would my fuck puppet for the night accept that there is no risk.

There should be no issue with having to prove status.

If someone is poz and they know it, they have a legal obligation to inform.

If you don't know or aren't absolutely sure, play safe until each of you is tested and you are in a committed monogamous relationship.

That doesn't need a data bank.

I think this 'service' is a terrible idea.

but the truth is many people who are poz ignore that "legal obligation". im sure it's hard to come out and admit to being hiv positive, so hard that many people neglect that and don't tell their sex partners. and in some states the laws are quite different so there isnt always a legal obligation for certain situations.
yes you should ALWAYS play safe, but many people, including myself, want to know that our sex partner has been tested recently and tested hiv negative.

and the person you share your results with can see when your last testing date was..so if its not recent enough for your standards, you're not forced to do anything. for me id want to see they were tested in the last 3 months at least...for you, it might be something different. to each his own in regards to that information.

there is an issue with proving status because people lie. these hookup sites dont seem responsible enough to notice that the hiv status information people fill in by themselves really have no merit. wouldnt you want to see more proof the person has gotten tested rather than just seeing them type in "hiv negative"...or better yet, leave that option blank?

im not sure why you think it's terrible. i think it would definitely help responsible people determine who doesnt get tested, who doesnt care, and who is hiv positive and is lying about their status. it's a social way of kinda forcing people to take care of their sexual health. imagine if it takes off...no one would be getting any play unless they swapped statuses..

 

[gsdx]

but the truth is many people who are poz ignore that "legal obligation".

The people who are 'poz' wouldn't take the test.

 

[hello2all]

The people who are 'poz' wouldn't take the test.

exactly! not to discriminate against people with HIV, but i dont understand why they get the pity party. so many other people are sexually discriminated against for being fat, asian, black, short, white, ugly teeth, yellow teeth, bad hair...etc, etc, etc, etc,...we all have our preferences. some people prefer not to have sex with people with HIV, even if it involves a condom. so i dont feel bad about sifting hiv infected people from the people i choose to be sexually active with. in public, i support everyone....but behind doors i want to see the person im with has been tested and is HIV negative. so yes, its likely a person with hiv wouldnt get test and wouldnt join the site...and then id know they arent for the picking...at least for me.

 

[Corny]

so what's your point?

you, yourself said that "poz" people or you, yourself, if you were "poz" wouldn't use the service.

so you basically admit that the service IS useless.

 

[hello2all]

so what's your point?

you, yourself said that "poz" people or you, yourself, if you were "poz" wouldn't use the service.

so you basically admit that the service IS useless.

how is the service useless based on that? the service would help people better choose who they have sex with because it would help point out those with hiv and if sleeping with someone who is hiv+ isnt you're thing, this site would be useful for you. it helps serosort...or sift the hiv+ from the hiv_...at least when it comes to sex ONLY. your test results is no one else's business EXCEPT for the people you plan on having sex with...there should be no need to swap your test results in any other situation.

 

[gsdx]

how is the service useless based on that?

If you meet someone at a bar and he hasn't taken the test, so you have only his word that he is 'clean', what do you do? Would it even occur to you to ask him if he registered with the site?

The website might be good in theory, but it's not very good in practice.

 

[Corny]

. it helps serosort...or sift the hiv+ from the hiv_...at least when it comes to sex ONLY

except that it wouldn't. as you said: as a "poz" person you wouldn't use it. so what should i do? only have sex with people who registered on that website?

are you for real?


apart from that: can i sue the website when i get HIV from a - per this service - negative person? nope? thought so. so what does it boil down to? i still have to assume someone is "poz" and use a condom. what did I "win" from using this service? nothing.

 

[quasar]

...suddenly i feel my freedom of speech being compromised

Why? I haven't stopped you from explaining exactly how the program works - I'm sure you're more than capable of explaining it.

 

[hello2all]

If you meet someone at a bar and he hasn't taken the test, so you have only his word that he is 'clean', what do you do? Would it even occur to you to ask him if he registered with the site?

The website might be good in theory, but it's not very good in practice.

well the site is just up and running so yes, it would be more practical as more people join it. i've seen a few tweets about it so maybe it's catching on soon. if the person hasnt taken an hiv test to join, you should encourage them to but it's ultimately up to you if you want to engage in sexual activity with them. hopefully something like this does get popular so asking people would be second nature...
i think its good in theory but in order for it to be good in practice, more people need to join...that's the only hurdle.

 

[hello2all]

Why? I haven't stopped you from explaining exactly how the program works - I'm sure you're more than capable of explaining it.

i could explain the best to my ability but it's best if you get the explanation from the horses mouth. this is a serious matter and i dont want to provide faulty information or be unclear. it would be best to read the site...they have a lot of information in regards to how it works.
what more do u need to know?

 

[hello2all]

except that it wouldn't. as you said: as a "poz" person you wouldn't use it. so what should i do? only have sex with people who registered on that website?

are you for real?


apart from that: can i sue the website when i get HIV from a - per this service - negative person? nope? thought so. so what does it boil down to? i still have to assume someone is "poz" and use a condom. what did I "win" from using this service? nothing.

why do you think you should sue the site? they are only relaying information from a hospital/clinic...if anything you should think about suing them. it's not a guarantee that someone is negative...just as if someone shows you their paper results its no guarantee that they will be negative. there are many factors that come into play, such as the "window period"...but all of that is explained on the site.

yes you should always use a condom. what you will "win" from the service is knowing your sexual partner(s) are taking care of their health, are getting tested, and tested hiv negative. some people arent interested in having sexual activity with anyone who has tested positive...so this helps prevent that from happening. can it still happen?...sure...but the chances are MUCH less likely being that the partners are tested...

would be great if lots of people joined...but some people arent comfortable with it...so be it. i just see is as an extra weapon in the fight against hiv. encouraging testing, and giving people the ability to choose if they want to connect with hiv positive partners or not. at the end of the day you can have sex with anyone you want, whether they are on the site or not.

to me this sorta mimics what happens in straight porn. porn stars are tested usually every 30 days or so, and if they havent shown results, they cant perform. have some people still tested positive? yes, but usually because someone was fucking outside of the porn community and got tested during that "window period"...

 

[quasar]

i could explain the best to my ability but it's best if you get the explanation from the horses mouth. this is a serious matter and i dont want to provide faulty information or be unclear. it would be best to read the site...they have a lot of information in regards to how it works.
what more do u need to know?

I don't need to know anything - I've read the FAQs. At the end of the day, the information is only as accurate as the last test you took, so unless the test was yesterday, then it is inaccurate information - and even then the test could come out negative because it was done in the 'incubation' period. Rather than assist in the non-transmission of HIV or STDs, it seems more likely to lull people into a false sense of security and result in more unprotected - and therefore unsafe - sex. As they can't guarantee the accuracy of the information your medical team (and subsequently they) provide, what's the point?

If you're going to have casual sex, spend your money on a condom - not a text message!

 

[rareboy]

Well after reading all of this, I have to say that the participation rate would have to be about 95% of the negative homo population around the world to be the least bit useful.

Which, as we've all pointed out, it would not be unless your test results were about 24 hours old.

And even then it wouldn't work. For fuck's sake, who runs a check on their sex partner's status before deciding whether or not to fuck? As Quasar points out, the real danger here is lulling guys into a false sense of security resulting in more unprotected sex.

I think this is some idea that someone had while smoking a big fatty and thought that there is some way to score some easy cash out of data farming.

As I said before, the likelihood of me or anyone else giving critical personal and medical data to an unaccredited, non-secure 'service' like this is zero to nil.

C'mon. Fess up. What is your real angle here.

 

[hello2all]

I don't need to know anything - I've read the FAQs. At the end of the day, the information is only as accurate as the last test you took, so unless the test was yesterday, then it is inaccurate information - so I'm going to use a condom anyway. Rather than assist in the non-transmission of HIV or STDs, it seems more likely to lull people into a false sense of security and result in more unprotected - and therefore unsafe - sex.

If you're going to have casual sex, spend your money on a condom - not a text message!

well if someone is naive enough to consider this a pass to have bareback sex, then chances are they were gonna end up with HIV anyway. responsible people NEVER think about fucking bareback really, especially with people they dont have a long term relationship with. and of course it's only as accurate as the last test...lol..and it's not inaccurate. you're just assuming it's proof to show that person is hiv negative..and it's not. i don't think they're advertising to be an automatic, up to the secon update of someone's hiv status. the accuracy is only as good as the last test you took. the point is, many people never get tested at all....ever. wouldnt you rather have people get tested regularly than to never get tested at all?
and i think everyone supports safe sex! even this site...but obviously people are barebacking anyway, right?

 

[opinterph]

data farming.

Bingo! That's my take on it.

 

[hello2all]

Well after reading all of this, I have to say that the participation rate would have to be about 95% of the negative homo population around the world to be the least bit useful.

Which, as we've all pointed out, it would not be unless your test results were about 24 hours old.

And even then it wouldn't work. For fuck's sake, who runs a check on their sex partner's status before deciding whether or not to fuck? As Quasar points out, the real danger here is lulling guys into a false sense of security resulting in more unprotected sex.

I think this is some idea that someone had while smoking a big fatty and thought that there is some way to score some easy cash out of data farming.

As I said before, the likelihood of me or anyone else giving critical personal and medical data to an unaccredited, non-secure 'service' like this is zero to nil.

C'mon. Fess up. What is your real angle here.

my real angle? i have nothing to do with the site, period. but i have shared a similar concern. you have sites we ALL know about that allow people to post their HIV results and it's not backed by ANY reputable source. Anyone who is hiv positive can simply select the "hiv negative" option and then go about their business. it's too faulty. i say, if a program like this isnt implemented, then we need to encourage these hookup sites to do away with providing an hiv status option, just completely omit it....it really is useless. too many guys have a false sense of security in that..and its baseless.

who runs a check?...sadly not enough...i've only had one person ask me for results...only one...i used to feel uncomfortable asking for results, but after that first person asked, it kinda woke me up. i usually asked someone the last time they got tested, but never for results...maybe it's about time we all do that. i mean, why not?

 

[hello2all]

Bingo! That's my take on it.

well hey, facebook and so many other sites "data farm"...lol....i cant get on the internet without seeing an add from a store i frequently visit. and when you grocery shop and use those club cards...that's data farming as well. in the news recently it was found Target was able to predict when female shoppers were pregnant based on the items they bought. That's pretty scary.
This to me is at least something that can protect me from being sexually active with someone who is HIV positive. Who cares if the government or whoever knows im hiv negative. and if i turn up poz, yes, id probably remove myself from the site...just in case...as should anyone else....its all up to u.

 

[fetaby]

i could explain the best to my ability but it's best if you get the explanation from the horses mouth. this is a serious matter and i dont want to provide faulty information or be unclear. it would be best to read the site...they have a lot of information in regards to how it works.
what more do u need to know?

Are you getting paid by the hour or the click?


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