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What is new on the Gay Marriage front?

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lgbt-equality-massive-step-forward

LGBT equality take a massive step forward

When the ball dropped at midnight on Jan. 1, 2014, there were 18 states where gay and lesbian couples could legally wed. Today, at 35 states, plus the District of Columbia, that number has nearly doubled – for the second year in a row – and now spans more than half the country.
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The word "massive" got my attention.

A rolling stone gathers momentum. - an old proverb
 
^ Whoohoo!

Reading the order on LGBTQ Nation, Justice Thomas referred the application for stay to the whole court - he did not act on his own. It does say that "Justice Scalia and Justice Thomas would grant the application." It's good to see that Thomas has done what other justices have done in the situations where states have asked for stays. Each request has been forwarded to the whole court, if I remember correctly.

I've read lately that AG Bondi and others in Florida are interpreting the ruling striking down Florida's ban to only apply in Washington County, as that is the only county named in the lawsuit, which I think is complete bullshit. Can the judge modify his ruling and make clear that the ruling applies to the entire state if necessary? Some counties in central and southern Florida have said they will begin issuing licenses anyway after the stay has expired.
 
Fortunately we do have a few weeks to work out any kinks before the stay expires but yes, the ruling is applicable statewide.
 
AstareGod said:
^ Whoohoo!

Reading the order on LGBTQ Nation, Justice Thomas referred the application for stay to the whole court - he did not act on his own. It does say that "Justice Scalia and Justice Thomas would grant the application.
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But they can never have children! :cry:
 
AstareGod said:
^ Whoohoo!

Reading the order on LGBTQ Nation, Justice Thomas referred the application for stay to the whole court - he did not act on his own. It does say that "Justice Scalia and Justice Thomas would grant the application." It's good to see that Thomas has done what other justices have done in the situations where states have asked for stays. Each request has been forwarded to the whole court, if I remember correctly.

I've read lately that AG Bondi and others in Florida are interpreting the ruling striking down Florida's ban to only apply in Washington County, as that is the only county named in the lawsuit, which I think is complete bullshit. Can the judge modify his ruling and make clear that the ruling applies to the entire state if necessary? Some counties in central and southern Florida have said they will begin issuing licenses anyway after the stay has expired.
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It's bullshit. When a federal judge rules in one district it practically is the common law for the whole state. The only other state to behave like this right now is Kansas, and Florida may be trying to copy their stalling tactics. It's petty, mean spirited, and ultimately very expensive for the state and local governments should couples decide to sue in every county in Florida. Typical attorney's fees in one of these suits run in excess of $100,000. The ones in Wisconsin might get over a million.
 
Be intresting to see if the Arkansas Supreme Court will rule soon.
 
Ninja108 said:
Be intresting to see if the Arkansas Supreme Court will rule soon.
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They are expected to rule by the end of the year since that's when the new judges are seated.

The denial of the stay in Florida is yet another game-changer. It could lead to other states having stays lifted, particularly Missouri, where the plaintiffs have appealed to the 8th Circuit. It's likely to be lifted also considering that both the governor and attorney general have made it clear that they do not oppose such action.

We should also expect a ruling from South Dakota at anytime as well. We obviously have the conference dates for Louisiana and the 6th Circuit cases set for January 9th, which is the same day as the 5th Circuit's oral arguments.

Also, Nebraska's case will have it's first hearing on January 29th by the SAME JUDGE who ruled the state's ban as being unconstitutional in 2005 (which was later reversed by the 8th Circuit the following year).
 
Yes, with Florida now, it's past the point of no return. The Supreme Court can't POSSIBLY turn it back now.

Does anybody know what happened to that bill in Michigan where they hoped to let doctors, EMT's, pharmacists, etc. REFUSE to serve LGBT people if it went against their religion? (I call it the Kill Gays via Medical Neglect Bill.) I assume it didn't get passed, because I would think I would have heard more than the "nothing more" that I've heard. If it didn't get passed, anybody know the margin on it?

I don't know its number or its official name, which would help me find it.
 
frankfrank said:
Yes, with Florida now, it's past the point of no return. The Supreme Court can't POSSIBLY turn it back now.

Does anybody know what happened to that bill in Michigan where they hoped to let doctors, EMT's, pharmacists, etc. REFUSE to serve LGBT people if it went against their religion? (I call it the Kill Gays via Medical Neglect Bill.) I assume it didn't get passed, because I would think I would have heard more than the "nothing more" that I've heard. If it didn't get passed, anybody know the margin on it?

I don't know its number or its official name, which would help me find it.
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The Senate President has stated that he expects it to die in his chamber.
 
I don't get what insisting that it be limited to one county achieves exactly? Even if only a handful of couple marry there, the state still has to gear up to recognize those licenses.
 
scream4ever said:
The Senate President has stated that he expects it to die in his chamber.
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Thanks s4e. After I posted, I went looking for it, and I found no shortage of links to reports on it, but NOTHING was dated later than December 8. I guess the Senate President's comments aren't in the news cycle yet??

Good news, though! VERY good news for me. I hope to retire to Michigan, and such a law would make that choice exceedingly unlikely and possibly dangerous.
 
All of the 6th Circuit cases are scheduled for conference on January 9th!!! Now yet again we wait...
 
scream4ever said:
All of the 6th Circuit cases are scheduled for conference on January 9th!!! Now yet again we wait...
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Almost at the end of the tunnel. I'll be in Florida celebrating :) and hopefully Arkansas will be a final victory for the year.
 
It seems that now that county is seeking "clarification" as to whether they're being ordered to marry only the plaintiffs, or all applicants?
 
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