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What is new on the Gay Marriage front?

Truly the most disguisting testimony I've heard yet in these states. The Mormon Church went into overdrive with the bigots.
 
Ninja108 said:
Truly the most disguisting testimony I've heard yet in these states. The Mormon Church went into overdrive with the bigots.
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I agree that the LDS Church is behind a significant number of testifiers at the House committee hearing in Hawaii. Fred Karger was absolutely right when he said that the LDS would try to come back stealthily, but no proof of it has surfaced other than several testifiers identifying themselves as Mormon. The goal seems to have been to effectively filibuster the bill with testimony.

Don't worry. While the House committee hearing is the most extreme we have seen in terms of length, it will be concluded eventually. The half way point was reached sometime yesterday, so I suppose it will be done by Tuesday.

Here is the complicated bit:

When the testimony is over, several amendments could be offered and a vote taken. Bob McDermott is probably the most anti-gay member of the House, and he is one of those Republicans who is so obnoxious that not even his friends like him. Though he will try to offer fatal amendments, there is a good chance that the committee won't pass any because of the rather sizable majority (20-8) in favor of it.

The House committee is actually a joint hearing of the finance and judiciary committees. The joint committee will not take a vote as a whole, leaving the vote to the individual committees. However, each one has about the same 2-1 majority in favor of SB1. Because the amendments approved in one committee must be recommended by the other, amendments could end up prolonging the bill even further. The majority is so big that there will not be much of an appetite to go for extra delays, leaving the amendment process to the House body.

That said, the House vote in favor is assured with at least 27 confirmed votes (26 needed) and probably several more. That majority, being slim, might not be enough to ward off some amendments that would curtail Hawaii's human rights act that was passed in 1991. Should the House amend SB1, it would have to go into conference committee, where the amendments could be stripped, and the bill voted on again. In a reasonable timeframe, this could all be accomplished by Friday.

On a side note, this timeframe leaves Hawaii and Illinois neck and neck for the #15 slot next week, with New Mexico in legal limbo.
 
Ninja108 said:
Truly the most disguisting testimony I've heard yet in these states. The Mormon Church went into overdrive with the bigots.
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It sounds like street talk in south county here.

Nauseating.

(Happily, the south end of the county has been 'discovered' by retiring people from civilization, and its makeup is changing.)
 
Kulindahr said:
It sounds like street talk in south county here.

Nauseating.

(Happily, the south end of the county has been 'discovered' by retiring people from civilization, and its makeup is changing.)
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Not Mississippi. Having neglected to invest in infrastructure throughout the 20th century, its population and economic growth have been stunted. It has half of the population of neighboring states and the lowest GDP per capita of any state. The tiny District of Columbia actually has a higher economic output.
 
I feel like it would not be held this close to the chest if it were going to truly happen. Shame on them.

I really hope the guys responsible for this fiasco get punished in elections. It's time we showed Democrats that they aren't safe just because they have a D in front of their names.
 
Illinois is essentially the same as New York was back in 2011. It came together behind closed doors and was down to the wire, but in the end it worked out in our favor. The same thing will likely happen their this week I expect.
 
The leader of the bill in Illinois, House Rep. Greg Harris, has filed amendments according to EQIL in a tweet...

This is a sign that the call for a vote is imminent.
 
Love it ^^^

Hawaii and Illinois are now neck and neck.

The vote in Illinois is imminent!
 
Passed with 61 votes, just two more than needed !!!

Now the senate will approve the changes.

Illinois becomes the 15th state and brings the country to 37% of the population.
 
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