When Did America Stop Being Great ?

[pat grimshaw]

...Here in Greece the unemployment rate is 25 percent, with youth unemployment about 55 percent....

That's no consolation. We didn't just rely on fishing and tourism. The American and the British Empires created manufacturing industries which made them stronger and self-reliant over two centuries.

It's only in the last two decades that all that hard been decimated (or "white-anted") by the industries of Asia which rely on slave labour.

 

[kallipolis]

That's no consolation. We didn't just rely on fishing and tourism. The American and the British Empires created manufacturing industries which made them stronger and self-reliant over two centuries.

It's only in the last two decades that all that hard been decimated (or "white-anted") by the industries of Asia which rely on slave labour.

Nor does Greece.

Greek companies are the owners of millions of tons of merchant ships trading the seven seas, with offices based here in Piraeus, along with related businesses such as law firms, ship broking, spare parts, crewing agencies, ship repairs etc. employing tens of thousands of people.

Greece also exports millions of tons fruit, wine, and olive oil to the European Union.

Tourism is also a huge earner for Greece.

Welcome to paradise:

 

[rareboy]

 

[Telstra]

This thread is a joke about Trump kallipolis
Trump said "America Stop Being Great but he will make America great again" LOL

 

[kallipolis]

This thread is a joke about Trump kallipolis
Trump said "America Stop Being Great but he will make America great again" LOL

The United States will survive Trump's attempts to position himself as the nation's saviour.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. ~Abraham Lincoln

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Ummm, I've tried looking at this from every angle and as far as I can tell it's only ever been great for rich white protestant heterosexual males, everybody else has been fending for themselves since day 1 to varying degrees of success.

This. It was only great for specific people. I haven't been paying attention to Trump at all lately but I bet he has never explained when this great time for America was, but going by what he says we could make a good guess.

 

[Alnitak]

It's a question that politicians use to sow doubt in voters' minds - a solution looking for a problem.

 

[star-warrior]

When hubris, might and bad judgement brought death and destruction to people who were not American nationals.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

It is still great by any reasonable standard, but not for much longer. The downward turn began with the counterculture of the 60s, when liberals began to take pride thinking America is bad.

Typical elementary pseudo-patriotism. Any reasonable standard? I'm dying to hear these standards.

 

[peeonme]

If a person believes that America is not in a state of decline then they are in a state of denial.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Yeah, that. I'm hard pressed to find a point in history where some large chunk of me wouldn't've been getting shafted.

There's a common and hilarious theme here-- the black people are like "what are you talking about 'great?'" the woman in this thread is like "what are you talking about 'great?'" and the white guys are all like "Yall are nuts this country used to be the tops!"

 

[Telstra]

Is this real ad?
I thought it was funny

 

[swerve]

The premise of the question is entirely wrong...

Making this thread moot...

 

[Benvolio]

The US ia on the verge of becoming a one party government. It is doubtful that any but a democrat can recieve the popular vote. Only the electoral college makes a Republican victory possible. It can only get worse, because immigrants overwhelmingly vote democrat/socialist. Knowing that the democrats value massive ummigration above all else. The next democrat president will give the democrats a clear majority in the supreme court, which will change the election laws to favor democrats; first they will modify freedom pf speech to limit private money. The democrat media will have a free hand.

 

[xbuzzerx]

There's a common and hilarious theme here-- the black people are like "what are you talking about 'great?'" the woman in this thread is like "what are you talking about 'great?'" and the white guys are all like "Yall are nuts this country used to be the tops!"

You'll find the same trend pretty much everywhere anything like this discussion happens. The whole Republican party concept of "go back to when America is great" is the perspective you get when you pretty much excise all perspectives but those of white males from serious consideration of any kind as valid.

 

[peeonme]

You'll find the same trend pretty much everywhere anything like this discussion happens. The whole Republican party concept of "go back to when America is great" is the perspective you get when you pretty much excise all perspectives but those of white males from serious consideration of any kind as valid.

If a white males wages are stagnate, then a black males wages are as well.
If a white male has poor health care, then a black males are.
If unemployment is high in the white community it is also high(actually higher) in the black community.

Workers in America have been screwed every which way but loose, be it by Reaganomics or so called free trade.
When I hear Hillary say that America is great, well, yes it is when you get what she was paid for making a speech, make no mistake, she is no more on the side of the worker than that pervert husband of hers' that signed the jobs away or the foul mouthed billionaire who wants the job.

I had hoped that Bernie would make it, he is what we need.
It's not a race issue, it's all about economics.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

If a white males wages are stagnate, then a black males wages are as well.
If a white male has poor health care, then a black males are.
If unemployment is high in the white community it is also high(actually higher) in the black community.

Where do you get your coke from?

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I wouldn't completely say economic issues aren't also a part of race issues.

 

[peeonme]

I wouldn't completely say economic issues aren't also a part of race issues.

My thought is that if the white male is disenfranchised due to policies that are economic, then it's not a bunch of white guys saying "give us the good old days and bring back segregation".
If these policies have hurt the white worker then obviously they have an even harder impact against those who were at a disadvantage already.

I would like to see the standard of living go up for all workers rather than the wealthy. We can make excuses, be in denial, lie to ourselves or call it like it is, the working class has been in a state of decline since Ronnie Reagan came along, I believe that Obama did what he could but was blocked by a white conservative congress.

 

[Benvolio]

My thought is that if the white male is disenfranchised due to policies that are economic, then it's not a bunch of white guys saying "give us the good old days and bring back segregation".
If these policies have hurt the white worker then obviously they have an even harder impact against those who were at a disadvantage already.

I would like to see the standard of living go up for all workers rather than the wealthy. We can make excuses, be in denial, lie to ourselves or call it like it is, the working class has been in a state of decline since Ronnie Reagan came along, I believe that Obama did what he could but was blocked by a white conservative congress.

You cannot see the effect that the flood of millions and million and millioms of immigrants, willing to work cheap, have had on wages and the standard of living?