When it is ready, will you get the vaccine?

[Alistair]

Nope on purpose.


I'm still on for Johnson & Johnson

 

[cityboy-stl]

That is one strange thing that I've noticed in people who got the coronavirus vaccine- no complaints of burning with the injection, no swelling, no excessive warm feeling... but it does feel sore the next day and occasionally there will be a swollen lymph node nearby. It usually lasts 2-4 days.

I had a worse reaction from the second shingles shot - 101 fever and more sore arm, no lymph nodes from either though. Got Moderna. Been two weeks now since the second. I did have a several week period of insominia starting just after the first shot but not sure if it is really related or not.

 

[Vannie]

.........

 

[KaraBulut]

I had a worse reaction from the second shingles shot - 101 fever and more sore arm, no lymph nodes from either though...

The shingles vaccine has a substance that is designed to trigger a stronger immune response. A lot of people complain that it does trigger fever, soreness and other symptoms.

Oddly, Moderna and Pfizer don't have any substances that are designed to amply the immune response. The responses that people are seeing are a response to the spike protein that the mRNA vaccines create- the same protein that is found on the surface of SARS-CoV-2. When I hear people say that they ran a fever after Moderna or Pfizer, I always have to wonder how much more miserable they would have been if they actually got COVID-19.

 

[belamyi]

THIS is Johnson&Johnson

 

[cityboy-stl]

The shingles vaccine has a substance that is designed to trigger a stronger immune response. A lot of people complain that it does trigger fever, soreness and other symptoms.

Oddly, Moderna and Pfizer don't have any substances that are designed to amply the immune response. The responses that people are seeing are a response to the spike protein that the mRNA vaccines create- the same protein that is found on the surface of SARS-CoV-2. When I hear people say that they ran a fever after Moderna or Pfizer, I always have to wonder how much more miserable they would have been if they actually got COVID-19.

Oh no kidding. I am certain getting covid would be far worse. I'm not complaining about some mild reations. The fever was only 100 and lasted a day. I'd get it again in a heartbeat if it were recommended.

 

[Araucaria]

^ Was I asking you?

If you want to get more intimate with me, it'll cost ya!


Dearly!

Don't look for me to augment your bank account!

 

[Peloso]

That is one strange thing that I've noticed in people who got the coronavirus vaccine- no complaints of burning with the injection, no swelling, no excessive warm feeling... but it does feel sore the next day and occasionally there will be a swollen lymph node nearby. It usually lasts 2-4 days.

Yes, sore arm, some fatigue. Oddly I've also been speaking in Latin to my cat.

 

[KaraBulut]

Yes, sore arm, some fatigue. Oddly I've also been speaking in Latin to my cat.

That's the typical reaction. The second shot can be a little more intense. Plan on taking it easier the day after your second shot. It's a good day to take lots of catnaps.

The second shot is still a picnic compared to two weeks of COVID-19.

 

[smokeshadow]

Feaux news is now promoting the idea that the vaccines don't work

https://cyberdisobedience.substack.com/p/foxnews-tucker-carlson-covid-coronavirus-lies

 

[KaraBulut]

Feaux news is now promoting the idea that the vaccines don't work

I wouldn't waste a lot of time on Fox. They say one thing but do another.

While they were denying COVID-19 was serious, the majority of their employees were working from home.

When one of theirs anchors tested positive, she was fired.

One of their senior producers, Eric Spinato, died of COVID-19 in March.

They go on about vaccines but you can bet they were all on the phone pulling strings and trying to get appointments the minute that the vaccines became available in January.

 

[belamyi]

^ They make money on telling certain people what they want to hear, that nobody else in the wide mainstream is willing to peddle to them.

Selling something to others never implied that you consumed it yourself too.

 

[belamyi]

Don't look for me to augment your bank account!

You started the game of accounts

 

[belamyi]

Yes, sore arm, some fatigue. Oddly I've also been speaking in Latin to my cat.

 

[frankfrank]

Yes, sore arm, some fatigue. Oddly I've also been speaking in Latin to my cat.

That's the typical reaction.* The second shot can be a little more intense. Plan on taking it easier the day after your second shot. It's a good day to take lots of catnaps.*

The second shot is still a picnic compared to two weeks of COVID-19.

*I see what you did.

*And, definitely you're right, talking to your pet in Latin is a well-known side effect, but it's much more common for those who live with dogs rather than with cats.

I had nothing at all that indicated I'd gotten the shot, i. e. not even a sore arm. (Wondering if I should have myself tested for antibodies to make sure the injections weren't mishandled and, therefore, ineffective. I got Moderna, does this one also have to be kept at supercold temperatures as the Pfizer does?) Even if I'd gotten the worst side effects described by anybody in this thread, I'd do it again in a New York piconanosecond.

Feaux news is now promoting the idea that the vaccines don't work

https://cyberdisobedience.substack.com/p/foxnews-tucker-carlson-covid-coronavirus-lies

From the article:

And now, we have Fox News basically telling people not to take the Covid vaccines, as experts fret that we may be on the verge of another large wave. (Carlson has been peddling vaccine hesitancy for months now.)

Narcissists hate to be proven wrong. Therefore, he is doing all that he can to MAKE SURE that more people get sick (and sometimes die) because at least a few milligrams of that egg-on-his-face may actually stick if people stop dying or even going to hospital from COVID-19.

 

[Peloso]

I wouldn't waste a lot of time on Fox. They say one thing but do another.

While they were denying COVID-19 was serious, the majority of their employees were working from home.

When one of theirs anchors tested positive, she was fired.

One of their senior producers, Eric Spinato, died of COVID-19 in March.

They go on about vaccines but you can bet they were all on the phone pulling strings and trying to get appointments the minute that the vaccines became available in January.

Yes, but their viewers don't know that and would not believe it if they were told. Tucker Carlson's ratings are through the roof lately, and he's preaching this disinformation to his army of dunderheaded couch potatoes. That's the danger.

 

[KaraBulut]

Yes, but their viewers don't know that and would not believe it if they were told. Tucker Carlson's ratings are through the roof lately, and he's preaching this disinformation to his army of dunderheaded couch potatoes. That's the danger.

I don't know that I would describe it as danger, though.

Tucker's older audience members lived at a time when polio and other childhood diseases were still prevalent. They saw the changes that vaccines made in their generation's mortality and morbidity. They're quietly making appointments for their shots because they don't want to get COVID-19 and because they want to see their grandkids again.

Tucker's younger audience members drank the Koolaid a long time ago. They're invested in conspiracy theories. They already believe that Bill Gates is conspiring with the Deep State to alter their genes and other ridiculous nonsense. Those younger audience members won't get the vaccine until they see someone with COVID-19 who gets really sick... then they'll panic and and then they'll be on the web, desperately looking for appointments.

 

[belamyi]

^ Depending on their contumacy, they can always twist the facts to fit their own reality.

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People (most people, I mean) yield more often to laziness than to what they used to call "the force of reason": it is not that those people suddenly are enlightened by evidence and sense, but they simply find a few to be happy with what is to them a new reality, just like they use to fight it because back then they felt happier with a different reality.

 

[Peloso]

I don't know that I would describe it as danger, though.

Tucker's older audience members lived at a time when polio and other childhood diseases were still prevalent. They saw the changes that vaccines made in their generation's mortality and morbidity. They're quietly making appointments for their shots because they don't want to get COVID-19 and because they want to see their grandkids again.

Tucker's younger audience members drank the Koolaid a long time ago. They're invested in conspiracy theories. They already believe that Bill Gates is conspiring with the Deep State to alter their genes and other ridiculous nonsense. Those younger audience members won't get the vaccine until they see someone with COVID-19 who gets really sick... then they'll panic and and then they'll be on the web, desperately looking for appointments.

By "danger" I was referring to the hoards of unvaccinated unbelievers and was also being generous with my choice of the word danger; by the end of May they will no longer be a threat to my health, and personally, I would love another lockdown.

It's almost a shame that #19 isn't deadlier. What lessons have we learned? How do you think these anti-mask/lockdown/vaccine renegades will behave if a more virulent pandemic comes along? It's unlikely to happen soon, but it's not impossible.

^ Depending on their contumacy, they can always twist the facts to fit their own reality.

People (most people, I mean) yield more often to laziness than to what they used to call "the force of reason": it is not that those people suddenly are enlightened by evidence and sense, but they simply find a few to be happy with what is to them a new reality, just like they use to fight it because back then they felt happier with a different reality.

You've halfway defined the word ignorance.

 

[belamyi]

^ Only the part that is not blissful
Thence the "contumacy"

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Damn, noww I realize I forgot to edit out a section.


Add a "d". Oh well