Why are JUBbers so prejudiced against the religious/religion in general?

[Alnitak]

The irony here is that some of the people who are staunch atheists and some of the people who are staunchly religious often share the same quality...anyone who doesn't agree with them or see things the way they do is "wrong" or "stupid" or "uninformed"....and I notice they are more alike than they are different.

Neither one "knows" for certain that God exists or doesn't exist yet both are self appointed authorities that think what they believe is THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

Neutrality is not objectivity. People often get them confused, but they are not the same thing. One side has a logical approach, while the other does not.

 

[Alnitak]

Well, you seem pretty full of yourself.

Hey, these are things people tell me all the time, so I guess it's true.

 

[eastofeden]

Neutrality is not objectivity. People often get them confused, but they are not the same thing. One side has a logical approach, while the other does not.

Yeah...the people who knew the earth was flat at the time were logical too.

Truth is...the universe is full of mysteries and logic has it's limitations when there are so many things that are beyond anyone's comprehension.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

Yeah...the people who knew the earth was flat at the time were logical too.

Truth is...the universe is full of mysteries and logic has it's limitations when there are so many things that are beyond anyone's comprehension.

Exactly.

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.

 

[Alnitak]

Yeah...the people who knew the earth was flat at the time were logical too.

That's a myth. The Greeks never believed the world was flat, and those who did, did not have the scientific method, which was discovered in Europe in the 17th century.

 

[Alnitak]

Truth is...the universe is full of mysteries and logic has it's limitations when there are so many things that are beyond anyone's comprehension.

There is nothing in the Universe that is beyond comprehension or explanation by science, once sufficient evidence has been uncovered.

 

[eastofeden]

That's a myth. The Greeks never believed the world was flat, and those who did, did not have the scientific method, which was discovered in Europe in the 17th century.

The Greeks who believed in Gods????

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Hey, these are things people tell me all the time, so I guess it's true.

Some times people just like to be nice.

 

[Alnitak]

Some times people just like to be nice.

This is a consistent thing, so no, they are not just being nice.

 

[Alnitak]

The Greeks who believed in Gods????

They didn't use believe in gods to justify why the Earth was round. Eratosthenes sent a helper to Syene to extrapolate the angle of the Sun in order to calculate the circumference of the Earth. Truth is evidence. That's science.

 

[zoltanspawn]

There is nothing in the Universe that is beyond comprehension or explanation by science, once sufficient evidence has been uncovered.

This isn't quite as settled as all that.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

I'm assuming altinak has sufficient evidence to prove the non-existence of any god whatsoever.

 

[Alnitak]

I'm assuming altinak has sufficient evidence to prove the non-existence of any god whatsoever.

There is no reason to suppose it exists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occams_razor

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This isn't quite as settled as all that.

Well, it is. The absence of evidence is not the absence of an explanation.

 

[bort138]

I'm assuming altinak has sufficient evidence to prove the non-existence of any god whatsoever.

There is no need to disprove claims that are supported by zero evidence. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. The burden of proof rests on the party making the positive claim.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

There is an obvious need since both of you as well as others arrogantly beat your chests spouting atheism as the only logical conclusion.

Your belief has no evidence and is as baseless as those who are religious. The lack of evidence for something does not mean it does not exist.

 

[zoltanspawn]

Well, it is. The absence of evidence is not the absence of an explanation.

Such bright confidence. However things like optimism, pessimism, skepticism and charitibility are attitudes, not conclusions.

I would say there are yet a few thorny problems unresolved by science, philosophy, math, and other areas of inquiry. That they may remain in the dark at the end of the day is a possibility.

 

[Alnitak]

I would say there are yet a few thorny problems unresolved by science, philosophy, math, and other areas of inquiry. That they may remain in the dark at the end of the day is a possibility.

There is no reason to assume they are unsolvable, just because it has taken a really long time to solve them; that would defeat the purpose of trying at all. Science, not religion, has revealed to us the mysteries of the Universe that have been and continue to be hammered out with logic.

 

[zoltanspawn]

There is no reason to assume they are unsolvable...

That's a great attitude!

Only a real sourpuss would maintain that some problems will remain unsolvable, I suppose.

 

[brokegayguy]

I don't understand how this is a troll thread. And there are people who have a problem with homosexuality who don't consider themselves religious.

OP is a grown adult on a gay forum starting a thread accusing JUB of prejudice against organizations that have long been prejudiced against us, while clearly ignorning religion's prejudice with questions like "who said homosexuality is wrong." If that's not trolling or flame-baiting, I don't know what is.

Seriously guys, lock the thread.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

OP is a grown adult on a gay forum starting a thread accusing JUB of prejudice against organizations that have long been prejudiced against us, while clearly ignorning religion's prejudice with questions like "who said homosexuality is wrong." If that's not trolling or flame-baiting, I don't know what is.

Seriously guys, lock the thread.

And his accusations are correct as shown by this thread. Which confuses me that people act the way they do towards religious people on here when their attitudes and the way the push their own beliefs is no different the way the religious right act.