Why is Fabulouslyghetto banned?

[Rickrock]

I didn't know that Mikey was banned either. He is rude, but for some reason I am better able to shake it off and just think well that is Mikey and, since I got used to him, he usually doesn't bother me.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

What's more telling about the ban is the absence of Fab's threads on Page 1 of Hot Topics. Only one is there presently. Without the incessant bumping and self=promotion, his agenda doesn't dominate the interests of the regular posting members on JUB.

I guess you have a point. By replying to each and every post, often in a very unfriendly way, he was just sending his own threads to the top of page 1.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

I doubt the racial equality threads and arguments are what got fab banned. It was going into other threads and taking potshots at members like Vannie and me, who weren't even participating in the threads. I've had him on ignore for 3 weeks and when I taking him off I find posts about me and others that were just personal attacks with no merit. That's what he got banned for IMHO

Wow. That's gangster.


And btw guys, who the hell is Mikey?

 

[medic1]

^ the rabid bisexual Canadian who is a Trump supporter, i remember he called us "Fags" once on here.

At the same time, i have had some very kind post comments from him.

 

[eastofeden]

^^^"mikey"s suggestion that certain people who spoke out against trump should be put in concentration camps was it for me....

He had quite an impact on me when he said that and I took a break from the board. I don't give him that power anymore.

I am not going to say what my opinion of him is....

 

[LilBit]

The mods have a policy of not discussing disciplinary actions against members. Assuming the ban is temporary, Fabby may or may not discuss it when he returns. Otherwise, it shall remain shrouded in mystery, and the speculation in this thread will remain speculation.

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^^^"mikey"s suggestion that certain people who spoke out against trump should be put in concentration camps was it for me....

He had quite an impact on me when he said that and I took a break from the board. I don't give him that power anymore.

I am not going to say what my opinion of him is....

I vaguely recall reporting that post.

 

[eastofeden]

I vaguely recall reporting that post.

I thank you for that.

I was stunned.....and I felt dirty being around him after that.

In my 20 years of working in a gay bar...I had to ask three people to leave simply because I felt repulsed by what they said to me/showed me....

Had he said that to me then...it would have been four times...

 

[NotHardUp1]

But that is simply classic troll behavior. Every single one of them has looked for the extreme button to push when anything else failed.

Mikey made the concentration camp barb.

Fab posted a derisive thread during the Florida high school shooting week, depicting the students as cracker-looking people-of-Walmart, impaired throwbacks.

Taralen posted incessantly about no one liking him until he became disliked. When no one cared eventually, he went high order to scream at the world. And, if his own threads contained truth about himself, he did pretty nasty things online to people who were guilty of being his teachers, etc.

Back when Andreus was a phenom on the forum, some member named Stryker posted a nuclear bomb pic intended for all the Mideast.

Trolls are not about promoting their issue. They're about hurting the opposition, and when they cannot find actual opposition, they work to create it. Watch the pattern. It always occurs.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I think people throw the term troll around too loosely. Someone could troll and that's not their full persona, but people on here like throwing it around to completely discredit anything the user ever said. Fab, even with how abrasive he could've been, definitely was promoting a real issue and constantly trying to discredit that says more about you than anything else. Just because someone might be saying something in a way you disagree with doesn't mean they aren't saying anything.

 

[NotHardUp1]

I guess the number of people NOT responding or endorsing the trolls is my support for what constitutes trolling. When it's only an echo chamber of the sisterhood, it doesn't represent any meaningful engagement.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

It must be nice up there.

 

[rareboy]

To be fair Ben did get a few holidays along the way, Fab got a good go before they came for him as well.

What really shocked me about Fab was that he was once Karen Walker, a poster that i got on with very well, i don't know what brought on the change in his persona, perhaps the prison time served he posted about in some threads or some other thing, whatever it was it wasn't a good change.

I wish him well in the future whether he comes back or not.

To be honest, and I think we would all have to live in the reality of being black in America today, it is the grinding, incessant and now, amplified racism that results in far too many innocent black kids, men and women being killed by a hyper-militarized police force... and the failure of government to effect change. If anything, the signals from the government indicate that it could get even worse.

I think this is the frustration and the anger and the change in focus for Fab. And to be fair to him, there is often a casualness in our response to his anger about what he sees and experiences happening in America that is solidly based in our own protected experience as white guys.....many of us not even living in the US.

We all know that it takes only one or two threads where people are pushing back at one another for the anger to go sideways and end up seeming like people are attacking one another personally. Unlike other social media, where it is the easiest thing to dismiss the people we don't agree with in colourful, concise language, we keep spending time together, so the hurts and the slights become amplified.

We don't really have actual trolls infesting JUB any more. They've all moved on to other social media platforms where their hit and run tactics work better for them and they can hurt more people at a one time than in a forum with more depth.

This is why posters getting banned is now much rarer and more noticeable....particularly when they have engaged with all of us on many subjects and shared both laughs and sorrows.

When he returns, I hope we can all move on.

 

[Dominus]

I doubt the racial equality threads and arguments are what got fab banned. It was going into other threads and taking potshots at members like Vannie and me, who weren't even participating in the threads. I've had him on ignore for 3 weeks and when I taking him off I find posts about me and others that were just personal attacks with no merit. That's what he got banned for IMHO

Ya. I put him on my ignore list a couple months ago. Every once in a while I take a peek and it was all personal attack on me. I think he was trying hard to bait me.

 

[Vannie]

I wonder if I could bribe the mods to ban Vannie?

No sex for you tonight! Pack up your lutefisk and get out!

 

[Dominus]

A LOT of members here ignore disgusting behaviour from people they like, it happens all the time. Fab isn’t the only individual where people turned an eye on something nasty he said to someone else.

Almost every member happy with his ban is not innocent in baiting in return just as much as he did. There is an ignore feature and people don’t have to reply to his threads but peopel did and some of those people made very racist comments. Which is what I find so funny about all of this because apparently people have less of a problem with that.

He did have a go at people and there isn’t an excuse for that. He isn’t the only one that needs a time out though. The moderation on this board honestly needs to be better and more consistent.

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People don’t discuss bans, they kick members while they are down.

Bolded. No, it doesn't. I think that's code for sending the mods to do ones own dirty work.

Sometime ago, I was a member of a politics forum. Truth be told, it was heavily occupied by rightwingers. All the moderators were rightwing trump supporters.

One time, there was a discussion on gay marriage. A poster said gays shouldn't get married because they are promiscuous and have no family values.

I responded by saying something like this home and his husband disagree. We have been together for blah blah blah. I very carefully chose my language to make it clear this home was myself.

Got reported and banned for calling a member a homo.

I think the current moderation on jub is good enough. I have participated in many forums and know what's just right and what's bias moderation. Do you really want to go down this path of moderation being on a particular side thinly veiled?

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Bolded. No, it doesn't. I think that's code for sending the mods to do ones own dirty work.

I think the current moderation on jub is good enough. I have participated in many forums and know what's just right and what's bias moderation. Do you really want to go down this path of moderation being on a particular side thinly veiled?

You say "No it doesn't", then say "Good enough" which would imply it could be better.

I've been on plenty of forums myself, pretty much since I've been on the internet, which has been since the late 90's, so I also have been on my fair share of them and seen them ran good and bad. Your anecdotal story from a bad forum doesn't really mean anything when there are forums ran better than it... like JUB.

It's not like I'm asking for the Mods to ban hammer everyone or saying they are bad Mods themselves. It just seems like there are times they are completely absent and then all of a sudden 2 members get banned within a weeks time, thread clean ups, etc. I'm sure there is plenty going on in the background, but at face value it seems inconsistent. Better doesn't = the Nazi type mods as you describe.

 

[gsdx]

I didn't know that Mikey was banned either. He is rude, but for some reason I am better able to shake it off and just think well that is Mikey and, since I got used to him, he usually doesn't bother me.

Over in CE&P, Mikey was usually an 'ad hominem' poster. He rarely addressed the issues being discussed, instead attacking, insulting, or mocking anyone who he didn't like, and he didn't like me a lot. I used to get a laugh out of him responding to something with his own article, but he tended only to go by the headline. The actual article often disproved his own argument and proved ours.

He wasn't really a troll, but he certainly had a lot of fish hooks in the pond.

 

[sixthson]

No sex for you tonight! Pack up your lutefisk and get out!

That's racist!! I guess Fab was right.

 

[Cormac135]

You say "No it doesn't", then say "Good enough" which would imply it could be better.

I've been on plenty of forums myself, pretty much since I've been on the internet, which has been since the late 90's, so I also have been on my fair share of them and seen them ran good and bad. Your anecdotal story from a bad forum doesn't really mean anything when there are forums ran better than it... like JUB.

It's not like I'm asking for the Mods to ban hammer everyone or saying they are bad Mods themselves. It just seems like there are times they are completely absent and then all of a sudden 2 members get banned within a weeks time, thread clean ups, etc. I'm sure there is plenty going on in the background, but at face value it seems inconsistent. Better doesn't = the Nazi type mods as you describe.

I actually agree with you on one point, the Mods took far too long to ban Fab, the board was nothing but his threads as he'd annoyed and insulted so many people that they'd joined the lurkers, at the end aided by you he went from thread to thread calling them boring and mediocre and picking on people just for the pleasure it gave him.

I'd almost worn my fingers out reporting his nonsense.

The Mod team do a lot more work behind the scenes as we all had a peek in onto with Taralen, it's a thankless task and on a site like this a neverending one.

I find it very telling that you've decided to focus so much on the Mods action or inaction instead of calling out the real villain of the piece, Fab.

We're well rid.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Why do you constantly feel the need to go at me or anyone all the time? I was aiding no one, how to you know my intentions? I agreed with points he was making and the stuff he was posting, and I’m not the only one either.

Jesus christ you are the king of villianizing people on here. The sanctimonious high ground you take with the things you’ve done and do is complete irony. You already had a post deleted here for being inflammatory, should we make it another?