X-Men's top 3 most powerful women

[theFallenGod]

okay so if anyone calls themselves an x-men addict and loves the any of the movies storylines, in my opinion you suck lol....

Much like the many different cartoon incarnations were different from the original comic storyline so was the movie. To say the movie sucked because it differed from the original storylines is to say that every cartoon series introduced sucked and that any series in the comics that deals with alternate realities (Ultimate X-Men, Mutant X, AoA, Exiles) also sucked. The movie gave us fans what we wanted, our beloved heroes real life counterparts. Yes there were alterations made but it's a completely different universe.. it is not Earth 616.

Yes I know she was insecure at first and has some self-esteem issues because she can't touch people...But that isn't who all of who she is. She's strong, and confident when she needs to and can kick serious ass. She's not a little child crying like the movie's Rogue.

And about the powers, well yeah she has absorbed a lot of people but the Ms. Marvel powers were iconic and that's how a lot of people who didn't read comics knew her (like me). I even remember when I was at the theater watching the first movie, there was this scene when Rogue is stuck in Wolverine's truck and she's struggling to remove the seatbelt, the guy behind me asked his friend "wait wasn't she like super strong or somethin?"

She is still insecure about her powers and still has esteem issues... It's a basic tenant of her personality. As for the not having Ms. Marvel powers.. see above... plus how long would that have taken to incorporate that storyline into a movie concerning a character that plays little to no role in the X-Men universe just to give a person with mutant powers more powers?

 

[innocentbychoice]

She is still insecure about her powers and still has esteem issues... It's a basic tenant of her personality.

I know that, but what I said is that that's not all of who she is. Bryan Singer just decided to take one dimension of her as character and portrayed her that way like it was all she had to give. And it wasn't. Insecure-but-I'm-gonna-kick-your-ass-if-you-provoke-me Rogue is interesting; I'm-just-insecure Rogue is not.

And again, why Anna Paquin??? They missed the whole point about Rogue, the whole irony: She's super hot, she makes heads turn when she walks into a room but nobody can touch her. We didn't get that with Anna Paquin because she isn't that attractive; she's not ugly but she doesn't have that.

As for the not having Ms. Marvel powers.. see above... plus how long would that have taken to incorporate that storyline into a movie concerning a character that plays little to no role in the X-Men universe just to give a person with mutant powers more powers?

I know that and I completely agree, that's why I said 2 posts ago that I could live without the Ms. Marvel powers. Besides, they would need a whole Rogue movie just to portray all the suffering and confusion she goes through after permanently absorbing someone.

 

[ILLBFIRE]

Is the Phoenix the most powerfull mutant in Marvel History???

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Is the Phoenix the most powerfull mutant in Marvel History???

Yes. She's considered one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe, which is why I had such an issue with the X3 ending. Okay, I will not speak anymore on that movie anymore...

 

[westindianstud]

I'm agreeing with most of the guys here.

Top 3 are Phoenix/Jean Grey
Storm
Rogue

I remember one episode of X-Men in the 90's where Storm went back to Africa and went crazy and the whole planet was on the verge of destruction.

I specifically remember Professor Xavier saying that the reason that Storm is always in control of her emotions and so stoical is that if she ever lost control, she could become the most powerful force the world had ever seen.

 

[boomichXY]

Phoenix/Jean Grey
Storm
Rogue

 

[innocentbychoice]

So, now that most people agree that Rogue is one of the most powerful mutants, and seeing how she was poorly portrayed in the movie, if they ever make X4 what would you do to establish her as someone powerful and confident in the new movie?

I have 2 ideas:

1. After she took the cure her powers started coming back slowly, aand within time they evolved and now she's got superstrength and flight on top of her absorbtion powers. This would give her the Ms. Marvel powers without going through all of that explanation; the bad thing is that it is a bit of a stretch that her powers would evolve to that extent.

2. Her powers came back, she's now more in control of them and has been training and working out so she's physically strong and can fight people. She fights without her gloves so each time she punches someone she absorbs their powers and uses them.

 

[scains]

Shadowcat is my favourite.

The only other ones I remember are Rogue and Storm, so they can be the other two.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with the majority. Rogue is not one of the most powerful mutants. While I agree that she has always been poorly portrayed, she still is not on an Omega level like Storm or Phoenix.

She has to get close to someone before her absorption abilities become useful. In addition, she cannot absorb everyone's powers; she has her limits with that as well.

 

[clorox]

I'd like her to have a guest appearance in the Avengers movie where an unidentified someone drags an unconscious Ms. Marvel out of harms way, then after the movie is over and the credits roll we see that Ms Marvel is in a coma and Dr. Banner saying he doesn't understand or Mystique finding a homeless girl arguing with herself who has a white streak in her hair.

In all honesty I think they should have just replaced her bedroom scene with her boyfriend with Rogue stealing Ms Marvel's powers. Actually now that I think of it they could have had both. If they cut the whole kidnapping plot which only gave Wolverine more screen time they would have had more time to explore someone else.

And I think Rogue is up there in ranking because of her X-Treme X-Men days where she has total recall of all the powers she has absorbed. I think it can be assumed that is her final form. I remember reading about a possible future time traveling Rogue who absorbs powers from dying mutants and they are added to her reservoir.

 

[luminum]

My Top 3:

#1 - Phoenix - hands down. Come on, one of the most powerful cosmic entities in all existence...you can't beat that!

#2 Storm - definately the 2nd most powerful. She's actually an Omega Level mutant, like Jean. The bitch can control the elements of nature, including earth's magnetic field and even solar winds...don't mess with her! And it's true...the X-Men's opponents always try to take out Storm first...and for a good reason.

#3 Emma Frost - she's a badass powerful telepath!

Storm's not Omega, at least not yet. The writers seem to want to retcon her into an Omega, but so far, the only in-comic stuff says that she "might" be.

Let's see, to be objective...

1) Phoenix
2) Storm
3) Rachel Grey or Psylocke (it depends how they're written) or Kitty Pryde

I love Emma Frost more than any other X-Man, but she's always limited by her fighting ability being low despite her diamond form and there's always someone with a chip or general immunity to telepathy.

Rachel can be badass when writers don't make her "inexperienced" and Psylocke with her Tk at the previous levels was pretty much a TK powerhouse lik Rachel.

However, with her ninja abilities, Krav Magda, and phasing, Kitty is arguably one of the few X-Men who can take out any villain she wants if she's willing to go that far. X-23 would be tied with her only because shes limited in "powers" like Kitty but more than has the will to kill and do what it takes.

 

[luminum]

Hmm...wrong. While I may not expect a perfect translation of comic book to cartoon or cartoon to movie, the cartoon did a far better job of portraying everyone overall. I'll give you the fact that the 90s cartoon watered down people's full-potential in powers, and the women's personalities were watered down; however, it was still accurate to some degree.

On the other hand, the movie completely altered the majority of the X-Men Universe, excluding names. While I expected the movie to be completely different from cartoon and comic books, as Bryan Singer said that was the direction he intentionally took, why not keep the most basic ideas the same. Here are examples that I can remember...

...Except that the films drew heavily from the Unlimited Universe and generally blended it with some 616 continuity as they saw fit and generally established their own continuity in and of itself. That essentially makes the criticism rather pointless. They were rather in line with Ultimate X-Men.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

...Except that the films drew heavily from the Unlimited Universe and generally blended it with some 616 continuity as they saw fit and generally established their own continuity in and of itself. That essentially makes the criticism rather pointless. They were rather in line with Ultimate X-Men.

I have not read the Ultimate X-Men timeline, so I would not be able to address it. However, as far as their establishing their own coninuity, I understood that was what Bryan Singer was trying to do with the very first film as he stated it himself.

 

[NomineDetracto]

Paige Guthrie, AKA Husk!

 

[luminum]

Skrull-infused Rogue from X-treme X-men would have been a top contender all things considered. But she'll never be one of the most powerful if she never learns to control her abilities and use them more confidently. What she did in the first three pages of X-Men #192 was what we all wish Rogue will someday be like.

 

[innocentbychoice]

I'd like her to have a guest appearance in the Avengers movie where an unidentified someone drags an unconscious Ms. Marvel out of harms way, then after the movie is over and the credits roll we see that Ms Marvel is in a coma and Dr. Banner saying he doesn't understand or Mystique finding a homeless girl arguing with herself who has a white streak in her hair.

An appearance in the Avengers movie is a good idea, I hadn't thought about it, but it would be hard trying to explain why Rogue, who has already been established as a hero and having in mind that they wouldn't retcon what they did in the X-men movies, would absorb another hero's powers until they were unconscious.

 

[MisterMajestic]

It's quite obvious that Storm is the most Powerful Female Mutant...Did you guys FORGET that it was Storm that FROZE that Russian mutant in ice? He was BEYOND powerful but in the end Storm had to summon the Arctic Winds to FREEZE his Ass stone-cold...Rogue & Jean could not do battle with that Guy...


All Storm has to do is RISE in the sky and FREEZE, BLOW-AWAY or DROWN every living thing on land...Man's WORST enemy is uncontrollable weather..Storm controls it..

 

[Fucker29]

It's quite obvious that Storm is the most Powerful Female Mutant...Did you guys FORGET that it was Storm that FROZE that Russian mutant in ice? He was BEYOND powerful but in the end Storm had to summon the Arctic Winds to FREEZE his Ass stone-cold...Rogue & Jean could not do battle with that Guy...


All Storm has to do is RISE in the sky and FREEZE, BLOW-AWAY or DROWN every living thing on land...Man's WORST enemy is uncontrollable weather..Storm controls it..

Please...Omega Red VS Phoenix? Just the thought of him actually standing a chance against her is...well...beyond ludacris and hilarious.

 

[Fucker29]

What I read was that someone foresaw the future and Storm would, eventually, reach Omega level...she's gonna become an elemental, thus, reaching Omega level. So far, she's POTENTIALLY Omega level but, in the future, she will be.

Storm's not Omega, at least not yet. The writers seem to want to retcon her into an Omega, but so far, the only in-comic stuff says that she "might" be.

Let's see, to be objective...

1) Phoenix
2) Storm
3) Rachel Grey or Psylocke (it depends how they're written) or Kitty Pryde

I love Emma Frost more than any other X-Man, but she's always limited by her fighting ability being low despite her diamond form and there's always someone with a chip or general immunity to telepathy.

Rachel can be badass when writers don't make her "inexperienced" and Psylocke with her Tk at the previous levels was pretty much a TK powerhouse lik Rachel.

However, with her ninja abilities, Krav Magda, and phasing, Kitty is arguably one of the few X-Men who can take out any villain she wants if she's willing to go that far. X-23 would be tied with her only because shes limited in "powers" like Kitty but more than has the will to kill and do what it takes.

 

[AngelFromAbove]

It's quite obvious that Storm is the most Powerful Female Mutant...Did you guys FORGET that it was Storm that FROZE that Russian mutant in ice? He was BEYOND powerful but in the end Storm had to summon the Arctic Winds to FREEZE his Ass stone-cold...Rogue & Jean could not do battle with that Guy...


All Storm has to do is RISE in the sky and FREEZE, BLOW-AWAY or DROWN every living thing on land...Man's WORST enemy is uncontrollable weather..Storm controls it..

No, Phoenix/Jean Grey is the most powerful, no questions asked. Jean Grey is an Omega mutant; Storm is potentially an Omega level mutant. If my understanding is accurate, Phoenix was only a physical manifestion or representation of Jean's true potential anyway.

Please...Omega Red VS Phoenix? Just the thought of him actually standing a chance against her is...well...beyond ludacris and hilarious.

Hey Fucker29, you know that you spelled the rapper's name, Ludacris, right? I'm not really some grammar nazi, but I found that to be a little humorous.