On Topic Discussion 2 yo boy killed by alligator at Disney

[Benvolio]

How very sad.

Regardless of supposed lawsuits and their attending wins, the signage has been enough previously. This is a first for Disney, so I don't buy that they were actually negligent, only technically in the sense that lawyers devise.

Wow! How many other people have been earen by alligators at their resorts?

 

[SC6201]

News flash...we are not the top of the food chain as much as we want to believe it.

Although tragic this should be a no fault incident. But we all know that won't happen.

 

[gsdx]

Nebraska does not have alligators.

Neither does Canada, but I know enough not to go chasing a golf ball I hook in a water hazard.

Florida has alligators. Deserts have scorpions and rattlesnakes. The west coast has bears. The oceans have sharks. Unless you live under a rock, it's common knowledge. It's not a defence.

People need to take responsibility for their own actions or inactions. It's like someone seeing a 'Beware of Dog' sign on a fence gate, opening it, going in, getting attacked by the dog, and then suing the owner for his injuries. The parents knew the potential dangers. If they didn't, they shouldn't be raising children.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Wow! How many other people have been earen by alligators at their resorts?

Only one and he survived.

 

[Cormac135]

Only one and he survived.

Damn right i did.

Too soon ?

 

[Benvolio]

Neither does Canada, but I know enough not to go chasing a golf ball I hook in a water hazard.

Florida has alligators. Deserts have scorpions and rattlesnakes. The west coast has bears. The oceans have sharks. Unless you live under a rock, it's common knowledge. It's not a defence.

People need to take responsibility for their own actions or inactions. It's like someone seeing a 'Beware of Dog' sign on a fence gate, opening it, going in, getting attacked by the dog, and then suing the owner for his injuries. The parents knew the potential dangers. If they didn't, they shouldn't be raising children.

Wow! I have spent many, many days fishing in Canadian lakes and had no idea I was in danger of alligators. Leaches, sometimes. But i would be afraid to go into a water hazard. Nebraska waters are at least as benign as Canada's.

 

[purina]

Too soon ?

Afterwhile crocodile.

 

[xbuzzerx]

I agree. Especially when you have a groomed beach.

Should they be required to have a complete shatterproof dome over the entire body of water to absolutely ensure no possibility of anyone getting past the barrier, as was basically applied by public opinion to the gorilla situation?

When you enter a body of water open to nature and big enough for animals to live in, you enter the food chain. The fact that people assume lakes and oceans are extensions of their back yard swimming pools and someone ought to be responsible if they get stung, bitten, attacked by a shark or whatever else is just people being stupid.

There were signs, that's not enough. If there were a barrier but it was theoretically not complete enough that a 2 year old might wriggle through, under or past it, that wouldn't be enough.

The planet isn't a playground. It has an ecosystem. There are toxic snakebites and lethal predators and things that can more than easily crush or eat or drown a human out of their element in water.

I don't believe there is blame here for anyone but the parents unless Disney actually encouraged people to go in or didn't warn them or post signs, which they obviously did, that swimming in this water was not a protected safe feature of the park.

 

[Telstra]

Looks like an inviting spot to wade. In another photo there's 3 children sitting/standing by the waters edge. Well within an alligator's reach. Looks like it was a tragedy in the making.

This photo looks like photoshop to me.
Pine trees on sand is not usual.

 

[Telstra]

These signs are posted around the lake. The danger is quite clear, despite the absence of an image of an alligator.

Very bad sign design.
Mikey3000 posted the sign is much much better.

 

[Alistair]

This photo looks like photoshop to me.
Pine trees on sand is not usual.

Pine trees?

 

[Latimer]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/report-gator-dragged-child-into-water-near-disney-/nrgS3/

The Mirror had a piece today quoting a family from Liverpool saying that they had been chased down the same beach by a 4' alligator a few weeks ago.

 

[Alistair]

A Regatta of Choices

Pilot your own adventure aboard an array of boats around lakes, lagoons and bays throughout Walt Disney World Resort.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/canoes/

Hey kids of all ages! How about a canoe trip thru the alligator infested lagoons of the Disney resorts!

What a great idea!

 

[pat grimshaw]

 

[mikey3000]

Um, what dat?

 

[Alistair]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/report-gator-dragged-child-into-water-near-disney-/nrgS3/

The Mirror had a piece today quoting a family from Liverpool saying that they had been chased down the same beach by a 4' alligator a few weeks ago.

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An unconfirmed story from a UK family: The Mirror reports “Brit family ‘chased by alligator” at Disney resort weeks before toddler attack. The Davies, who are from Liverpool, tell the paper they were at the Polynesian Village Resort along the shores of the same lake and awaiting the Magic Kingdom’s nightly fireworks display when an alligator “lurched” out of the lagoon.

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[Benvolio]

Wow! I have spent many, many days fishing in Canadian lakes and had no idea I was in danger of alligators. Leaches, sometimes. But i would be afraid to go into a water hazard. Nebraska waters are at least as benign as Canada's.

That was supposed to say I would not be afraid to go into a water hazard.

 

[Benvolio]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/report-gator-dragged-child-into-water-near-disney-/nrgS3/

The Mirror had a piece today quoting a family from Liverpool saying that they had been chased down the same beach by a 4' alligator a few weeks ago.

This suggests that Disney knew of the danger of alligators and did not warn.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

This photo looks like photoshop to me.
Pine trees on sand is not usual.

That's news to poor Gilligan.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Man, I can't imagine the amount of hand holding some of you seem to need to get through life. Very clear that some of you need to blame everything else in life but never take responsibility for oneself.