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On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

And now a cruise ship quarantined off the coast of Japan.

A nightmare scenario, because viruses seem to spread like wildfire on ships.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

rareboy said:
And now a cruise ship quarantined off the coast of Japan.

A nightmare scenario, because viruses seem to spread like wildfire on ships.
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What no one ever says is that most cruise ship viruses are spread from fecal contamination. The fact that there's now three cruise ships on quarantine is making epidemiologists question whether the Wuhan virus is not limited to respiratory transmission.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Healthcare workers in Hong Kong have gone on strike demanding that Hong Kong stop immigration from China.

Hong Kong reports first coronavirus death as hospital workers strike [Axios]
Hong Kong reported its first death from the novel coronavirus on Tuesday morning local time.

Why it matters: The second reported death outside of mainland China came as over 2,400 Hong Kong medical workers went on strike to demand authorities fully close the border with mainland China to stop the spread of the virus, per the South China Morning Post.
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Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

I want to know if Nostradamus predicted a catastrophe at the start of 2020 ;-)
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Over 28,000 reported cases and 564 deaths in China as of this morning.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...clb0LB2WM7L3sFAexTVIL_EbZxyeW61xkp_yWzG6Axb9Q

Still not exponential growth, so hopefully containment measures are still holding up, but the continued increase in cases is just not a good sign of where this is headed.

Fortunately though, the mortality rate is still low at around 2% of reported cases.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

KaraBulut said:
CNN has a story on their website today about how the Chinese government is micro-managing information about the epidemic and what happens when someone talks without government approval.
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Shocking followup to this story about the Wuhan doctor who was a whistle-blower for the situation on the ground in Wuhan. The doctor has died.

Wuhan doctor who was Coronavirus whistleblower dies from virus [CNN]
Dr. Li Wenliang — the Chinese whistleblower doctor who warned the public of a potential "SARS-like" disease in December 2019 — has died of coronavirus in Wuhan today, according to several state media reports.
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China is building a 2nd emergency hospital to handle the additional patient load.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

And Dr. Li...the guy who tried to warn everyone at the end of December is dead from the coronoavirus.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia...HLTYNeBVbThRVWBWUrVvL1khTb23BllVhja5_RWLop-ao
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

rareboy said:
By the way....this provides a pretty good look at what is happening with the Flu serason in Canada (and likely through the US as well) with regards to activity and flu types.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...tch/2019-2020/week-04-january-19-25-2020.html

wash your hands.

stay home if you think you have the flu.

and it still isn't too late to get a flu shot.
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Yep, literally got mine this week and been pushing my boyfriend to get his on his next Doctor App. Also simple personal hygiene does go a long way.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

7-Feb-2020:

2019-nCoV stats:
Cases reported: 31,523
Cases reported in the US - 12 (1 new case)
Deaths: 638 (up from 564 yesterday)

The Japan cruise ship in quarantine has had 61 people test positive for the virus.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

nycguydowntown said:
won't be going to Chinatown anytime soon;)
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of course I said this as a bad joke a few weeks ago but sure enough Chinatown in NYC is seeing lots of empty restaurants --and I just flew into JFK airport and lots of masks especially on asians.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

According to the news, the virus is quite serious.
Shutting down cities with millions of people in it is serious. And China handled best it can be?
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

question,
Coronavirus or flu only can happen in cool or winter climate correct ?
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Telstra said:
question,
Coronavirus or flu only can happen in cool or winter climate correct ?
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No. Coronavirus is responsible for about 20% of "common colds". There's 4 coronaviruses that have been known to cause human colds year-round. They spread through respiratory droplets primarily, so they're more transmission during months where people spend more time indoors but there's not enough evidence to say that cold weather makes them easier to contract or spread. There's been some theories that sunlight, humidity and temperature might be a factor but there's not concrete evidence to confirm those theories.

There's new coronaviruses are new and different and not the "common colds" that we're using to seeing with coronavirus. One of those coronaviruses- MERS- got its start in Saudi Arabia where there is no cold weather.

The influenza virus does seem to prefer colder temperatures but since it's spread via coughs and sneezes, it's not completely clear whether it's colder weather or the fact that people tend to remain indoors during colder weather that is responsible for winter flu seasons that peak in December-January in the Northern hemisphere.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

From the UK press:

US underprepared for coronavirus due to Trump cuts, say health experts [The Guardian]
US preparedness to deal with the threat of coronavirus has been hampered by the personnel and budget cuts made by the Trump administration over the past three years, according to health experts.

There is no one in the White House tasked specifically to oversee a coordinated government-wide response in the event of a pandemic, since the post of senior director for global health security and biothreats on the national security council (NSC) was eliminated last May.
University apologizes for saying xenophobia is 'common reaction' to coronavirus spread

The office was established in 2016 after the outbreak of the Ebola virus in Africa demonstrated the US government was not set up to move with the speed and decisiveness necessary to react to a really lethal epidemic.
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And of course, the CDC is having to ask Congress for money for coronavirus research.

HHS notifies Congress that it may tap millions of additional dollars for coronavirus responsehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...ions-additional-dollars-coronavirus-response/ [WaPo]
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services notified Congress on Sunday it may need to transfer up to $136 million to help combat the fast-moving coronavirus epidemic, a new sign of how the White House has increased its response in recent days.

The notification came as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is quickly burning through $105 million that was set aside for emergency public-health responses to things such as the coronavirus....

In the past, Trump has repeatedly sought to slash global health funds in the administration’s annual budget blueprint, but Congress as rebuffed those requests. For fiscal 2019, Trump requested no money for the Infectious Disease Rapid Response Fund, but Congress provided $50 million. For fiscal 2020, Trump requested $50 million for the fund and Congress provided $85 million.
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Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

8-Feb-2020:

2019-nCoV stats:
Cases reported: 34,947 (up from 31,523 yesterday)
Cases reported in the US - 12
Deaths: 725 (up from 638 yesterday, includes 1 US citizen who died in Wuhan)

There are now 320 people in another 27 countries who have tested positive for the virus.
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

rareboy said:
...Fortunately though, the mortality rate is still low at around 2% of reported cases.
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My understanding is that a case fatality rate is based on cases of infections that have run their course -- resolved, death, etc. Not those recently infected with unknown outcomes. Based on that, I think the cfr is around 30%. This virus has an especially long clinical period -- onset of symptoms to recovered or not recovered -- so we just don't know for many of them. Plus, the data sources aren't considered very reliable.
 
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