A President We Can Be Proud Of.

[JayHawk]

No not proud of Palin that would assume some tie. I simply defended her at the time of her gutting.

And believe me I know the result. The reason the "Hail Mary" group was arguing their point was due to the fact that in bankruptcy law bonded investors are due recourse prior to unbonded investors and stockholders.

The bankruptcy favors the smaller investors over the larger. Kind of socialistic in nature really. So your argument was that the SCOTUS was in error in staying the case? Usually judges don't back down in less than 24 hours. That all seems very natural to you? Really?

I have never seen a group of mercenaries laugh at bushy or Rover. (do you make up those cute namey wamies?)

However when the head of what used to be the worlds economic superpower's treasury makes such convoluted statements concerning finances to students of finance so much so that they laugh at him as a group, I find that disturbing. I am sorry that you do not.

 

[JayHawk]

Re: CE & P Posting Guidelines 2008 (Open Discussion)

The funny thing about my high horse is I never got upon said horse.

My opinion was that Obama has not delivered a workable useful bit of policy and challenged all of you to provide me something that he has done that is working out well.

The response i got had nothing to do with Obama.

It said "you defended Palin once, I can't hear you...la la la"

I summed that up of course.

So feel free ICO7 or MR to tell me how my statements of support towards Plain answers what Obama has done in regards to policy since he has been elected?

 

[JayHawk]

Re: CE & P Posting Guidelines 2008 (Open Discussion)

Are you people simply incapable of articulating and then defending your Messiah and his policies?

 

[NickCole]

So is denial. It is pathetic to pretend all the evidence to the contrary doesn't exist to thus claim to be wrong only once. Absolute bullshit is common for those with an illusion of superiority.

This "evidence" is a fantasy in your own mind.

Post "all the evidence," prove your point if you can. Let's see it. In one post, right here, list it.

And btw I didn't "claim to be wrong only once," I said the only instance the ObamaNation clique has dug up from as far back as December 2007 was when I commented that Obama couldn't win -- which turned out to be wrong but wasn't about the kind of man Obama is, that he's unprincipled and can't be trusted and doesn't keep his promises. which is what I've pointed out I got right.

 

[JayHawk]

Re: CE & P Posting Guidelines 2008 (Open Discussion)

Side step all you want you know exactly what I am referring to with the messiah comment. However to humor you and FINALLY return from whiny bitch land and back to my point....please endeavor to extol the merits of an Obama lead policy.

 

[Lostlover]

How exactly am I "attacking you" for requesting a cite/link? "Illegal bankruptcy"? How exactly does one go about providing "counter evidence" for something that doesn't even exist in the first place? You posted talking points that have no merit. You failing to provide any upon request, only proves you haven't done your homework.

So if you want to provide some cites/links for your claims that have any validity I would be more than happy to talk about "said issues".

Uh oh, calling someone on his/her's bullshit... and now he/she is getting defensive.

Maybe he/she was lying?

 

[NickCole]

I've brought up several instances, including the one Molten did, a long time ago, and you easily ignored it then.

I didn't see it. Post a link.

As for your descriptions of Obama, they are tired, played out, and are nothing more than self-fulfilling prophecy fodder. No one but fools or liars (perhaps both) ever claimed Obama was magical, divine, or any way not a human being. Everyone (including you, even if you fail to acknowledge them) is human, and thus flawed by their own existence. When it comes to your ridiculous depictions of Obama, it is as easy as saying, "a horse will win the Kentucky derby" and then celebrating like you've really accomplished something.

Bullshit.

I saw Bush for who he was when 90% of Americans polled didn't see it, and I was accurate; ditto Edwards; and I saw Obama for who he is. I didn't just say he's human or flawed, and I didn't just say he's a liar, I was specific about the kind of lies he tells and pointed to his specific behavior and choices that supported my conclusions that he's unprincipled and can't be trusted to keep his promises.

 

[NickCole]

Bullshit. Especially about Edwards (in fact, one of my posts in question AND molten's mentioned this: edited to add mine from May 22nd: http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5082127&postcount=46 ).

In that post you quoted I said, "Edwards is a light weight. He's good looking and the popular kid in class, but that doesn't necessarily make a good President."

That was not my most indepth appraisal of Edwards, but it wasn't wrong.

 

[NickCole]

Please provide links for both #1 and #2 claims. As Opinterph said earlier today, "opinions lacking substantiation are to be discarded from serious consideration by other members".

I'm not searching back through old posts to prove something you'd only dismiss anyway. You've searched and you've found nothing that supports what you want to prove, or that refutes my claims. That's enough.

 

[JayHawk]

Uh oh, calling someone on his/her's bullshit... and now he/she is getting defensive.

Maybe he/she was lying?

No sunshine what I don't understand was the ten exchanges that had to do with my previous post.

Thanks Molten for finally getting around to somewhat answering my question.

Now can any of you Obama hacks point to something he has done that is working as promised.

Finally, Molten if you don't understand how people maneuver in DC and think that 24 hours is sufficient for the SCOTUS to review an issue, then again I am sorry for you.

Actually i wish I lived in that world.

 

[JayHawk]

Come on brainiacs....the title is a president we can be proud of.....is that because he is black or because of his actions? He gave a speech saying holocaust bad, fallen soldiers good, strife and war bad, peace good.......

Congrats he can read a teleprompter.

Some left leaning Obama stroker wrote some bullshit on the wall. So stop sidestepping and defend it or feel free to shut the fuck up. Whom it is that other people supported and how others post has nothing to do with the topic.

It really is that simple and yet NONE of you are capable of providing a simple definable example of Obama's greatness. Everything I see seems to be failing. Help me see the light.

It is simple:

Defend your man or go back to jerking off to the porn and leave the conversation to the adults.

 

[JayHawk]

actually he is slipping as no real american sees any change. Good intentions wont last for long. Now you have posted what you think are good ideas. NOW for a reading comprehension check.

I ask for proof anything was working vs plans of utopia. A good example would be detainees and closing gitmo. Gee how is that going? Ideas are awesome and children have wonderful ideas. Usually they don't actually work.

Standing by for your demonstration

 

[Apollo]

Come on brainiacs....the title is a president we can be proud of.....is that because he is black or because of his actions? He gave a speech saying holocaust bad, fallen soldiers good, strife and war bad, peace good.......

Congrats he can read a teleprompter.

Some left leaning Obama stroker wrote some bullshit on the wall. So stop sidestepping and defend it or feel free to shut the fuck up. Whom it is that other people supported and how others post has nothing to do with the topic.

It really is that simple and yet NONE of you are capable of providing a simple definable example of Obama's greatness. Everything I see seems to be failing. Help me see the light.

It is simple:

Defend your man or go back to jerking off to the porn and leave the conversation to the adults.

I already did this in another thread, go dig it up.


Oh...Molten handled it this time. Nvm

 

[Apollo]

actually he is slipping as no real american sees any change. Good intentions wont last for long. Now you have posted what you think are good ideas. NOW for a reading comprehension check.

I ask for proof anything was working vs plans of utopia. A good example would be detainees and closing gitmo. Gee how is that going? Ideas are awesome and children have wonderful ideas. Usually they don't actually work.

Standing by for your demonstration

Nothing works as fast as you want.

But if you find fault with all his accomplishments so far and what he is working on in the future (most of them multi-year projects, like most stuff a POTUS does) then there is nothing that can be done for you.

 

[JayHawk]

Those are intentions. I ask for what was working. Just take a quick look at those things that don't take generations to evolve.

BTW Molten how in the fuck am I supposed to know what you post where? And why would I give a fuck? It wasn't in this conversation was it?

BTW you cut and paste very well

 

[Apollo]

HA!!!

You guys were asked to post his accomplishments..So far,all I see is a big bowl of nothing.

I guess you didn't catch Molten's post.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4977050n

 

[Apollo]

Exactly. I mean seriously the guy has been President for how many weeks now, and yet the only so-called measure they want to accept are programs that have been passed, funding in place, people hired, and results? It's laughable. They who toss around the "Messiah" word, yet are the ones expecting messianic results. The real indicator on how the man is doing as President is the approval ratings. He's averaged between 60% and 70% since he was inaugurated, and as of today still at 62%, meaning about 2/3s of Americans think he's doing a decent job.

The Republican noise machine has been counting on the economy not turning around by the time reelection rolls around which has been an extremely risky strategy, since they've decided to be the party of "no".

The economy is turning around though. Jobs are being created in some sectors, and yes, jobs as still being loss.

This was a Bush policy, but the government just got paid 68 billion dollars from several banks who were loaned the money. The government made a profit of 2 billion dollars.

 

[Kulindahr]

I was real proud of the Obama Administrations efforts to block the Supreme Court from hearing D.A.D.T.

It was awe inspiring the way he backed off yet another campaign promise,this time actually arguing for D.A.D.T.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/06/08/scotus_dadt/index.html. The comments pretty much nailed it.

It wouldn't have surprised me if he'd just let it go, but to argue for the policy makes him a lying, hypocritical traitor.

I predicted this 311 years ago right here on JUB.

Whoa -- even if we use the year on Mercury, JUB hasn't been here that long!




note: Mercury's year is 88 Earth days, but 1 Mercury day

 

[Apollo]

Look, we dumped over $4 TRILLION into the economy in the past few months. It's going to frickin work. Even with just general American economical resilience it was a fools bet to bet against the American economy. By being the party of "no" they only will shoot themselves in the foot when the American public look up and realize....geez..... things are getting better.

I am continuely taking the route of just ignoring more and more of these short-sited posts. I mean, if this is still going on in two years, then they were right.

But it hasnt even been half a year. People expect too much in too short a time. Humans...

 

[Apollo]

Nah, it's all bullshit. They despise Obama, and would trash the man if he saved their life from choking on a buffalo wing, and complain he bruised their rib. They were dead set against him in the first place. This is the same 24% to 26% of rapid partisans that supported Bush even at the very, bitter, end. Bush could have come to their family home, raped the dog, wiped his ass with the bible, smacked grandma upside the head, and taken a huge dump in the middle of the dining table, and these partisans would have still supported him.

Their bitterness only will continue to backfire, which is highly amusing, but not very helpful IMO. I really would like 2 parties to possibly vote for in any given election, but as it stands now I only have 1 I will and can vote for. Ever since Clinton's election / Newt Gingrich's spearheading of such partisan hate have the Republicans been an unsupportable party.

I really wish the moderates of the Republican party would pull their party back from the stupid like Palin, the haters like Gingrich / Limbaugh, and the racist/invade everyone like Lindsey Graham. But it looks like it will take at least one more election cycle for them to "get it". The mid-terms as its looking now are going to be very, very ugly for Republicans. Historically the out of power party picks up seats, but given the number of Senate seats the right wingers have to defend vs. Dems, and their overall strategy since Obama has taken office shows they will be ever more impotent.

I knew NickCole was set on trashing the man from the beginning. The minute Hilary lost the nod, he probably vowed to trash him at every turn.

The republican party is about dead IMO. Especially if they keep getting their talking posts from Dick Cheney.

I so so so hope Sarah Palin becomes the voice of the party. I will jump for happiness as I watch her destroy the party with ole' Cheney on her arm. Imagine what will happen to Fox News? hahaha ow I am jumping with excitement!