Attack on Canadian Parliament...

[kallipolis]

His father was Bulgasem Zehaf - a Libyan guy and his mother was French-Candian so not so anglo!

Perhaps he was adopted?

This is another interesting case demonstrating the insanity of another perpetrator:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/caught-camera-terrifying-moment-mad-4496599

 

[kallipolis]

Michael Joseph Hall was adopted according to this press report:

I quote:

Born Oct. 16, 1982 as Michael Joseph Hall, his name was officially changed to Zehaf-Bibeau in 1995, according to La Presse, which suggests he was adopted.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/1...picture-of-a-man-troubled-by-drugs-and-crime/

 

[bankside]

That's a wise assessment...interesting that his original name, Michael Joseph Hall places him firmly in the Anglo sphere...

I think you may be mistaken there. I've not heard any reporting of that name.

From la Presse itself:

Zehaf Bibeau est né Michael Joseph Paul Bibeau en 1982 à Laval. Sur son acte de naissance, on lit «père non déclaré». Son père, Bulgasem Zehaf, était en brouille avec sa mère lors de sa naissance. Rapidement, les parents se sont réconciliés et M. Zehaf, un Libyen d'origine qui avait un café sur la rue Crescent à Montréal, est revenu dans la vie de son fils, selon des documents de cour consultés par La Presse. Le couple s'est marié en 1989 et il a déposé une demande de changement de nom en 1995. Le garçon est alors devenu Michael Joseph Paul Abdallah Bulgasem Zehaf Bibeau. Mais dans la vie courante, il se faisait appeler Michael Bibeau, parfois Michael Zehaf Bibeau, comme le montrent ses photos de classe.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/d...bibeau-une-derniere-nuit-aupres-des-siens.php

So, born Michael Joseph Paul Bibeau; not adopted, born to parents whose relationship was rocky but later married, changed his name (to acknowledge his biological father's heritage?) some time after his parents married.

 

[kallipolis]

I think you may be mistaken there. I've not heard any reporting of that name.

From la Presse itself:



http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/d...bibeau-une-derniere-nuit-aupres-des-siens.php

So, born Michael Joseph Paul Bibeau; not adopted, born to parents whose relationship was rocky but later married, changed his name (to acknowledge his biological father's heritage?) some time after his parents married.

I'm taking no fixed postion simply reporting media reports including the captioned Canadian report that assumes that the dead assailant was adopted....

 

[bankside]

I'm taking no fixed postion simply reporting media reports including the captioned Canadian report that assumes that the dead assailant was adopted....

Yes, fully understood. If I may revise:

I think [STRIKE]you[/STRIKE] the National Post's coverage of what La Presse actually reported may be mistaken there. I've not heard any reporting of that name.

...and while commenters from south of the border were impressed by the sober and thorough coverage of this event in Canadian media, we can perhaps see the accuracy in the expression "as dumb as a Post."

 

[kallipolis]

^I'm sure that The Post is noting your observation....with horror....

 

[bankside]

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/d...olument-laique-selon-un-ami-de-la-famille.php

Here we read that while his father was reputed to be secular in matters of theology and ideology, he still travelled to Libya to join the revolution.

 

[Kabluey]

A laissez faire approach to mental health in most English speaking countries isn't helping.
There are some people who really do present a danger to the general public.

 

[bankside]

Our sincere sympathies remain with our neighbors to the north. It's just a shame that we have every expectation of seeing these aberrations proliferate across the globe, regardless of policies, laws, or other factors.

The truth is, a determined individual, with mental illness or simply malice, can do incredible harm and the best plans often cannot thwart that man.

With the growth in world population, and the evolution of extremism and terrorism, we are virtually guaranteed the spread of these tragic acts.

Well said. Guaranteed, maybe statistically this is true, but vigilance can work to our advantage. We can't be naive to the risk, and indeed we never were, as one parliamentarian points out, but nor will we be gulled into distorting our society through fear. I like his remarks at 3:30.

 

[Telstra]

Our sincere sympathies remain with our neighbors to the north. It's just a shame that we have every expectation of seeing these aberrations proliferate across the globe, regardless of policies, laws, or other factors.

The truth is, a determined individual, with mental illness or simply malice, can do incredible harm and the best plans often cannot thwart that man.

With the growth in world population, and the evolution of extremism and terrorism, we are virtually guaranteed the spread of these tragic acts.

Talk as if you are a world leader.

 

[bankside]

Talk as if you are a world leader.

Far preferable that he speak like someone with no qualities of leadership whatsoever, wouldn't you say?




Ahh, you did.

 

[gsdx]

Cirillo's body has left Ottawa and will travel to Hamilton (just west of Toronto) along the Highway of Heroes. Already, people are gathering along the highway and on the overpasses to pay their final respects to Nathan as he makes his final journey 'home'.

The Highway of Heroes is a portion of the MacDonald-Cartier Freeway (Highway 401) running the airbase in Trenton, Ontario, and Pearson International Airport in Toronto. Normally this is the final route for Canadian soldiers who have died in the line of duty overseas. It is not uncommon for thousands of people along the route to gather along the route, hang flags from bridges, and greet the motorcade as it passes. The citizens are usually joined by representatives of local Police and Firefighters.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/cpl-nathan-cirillo-making-his-final-journey-home-1.2069186

 

[pat grimshaw]

Slightly off-topic

... distorting our society through fear. I like his remarks at 3:30….

His remarks about Canada being tainted remind me of this great scene from an English/Canadian movie. The first half is a rant; the second is a lovely rebuttal—

 

[Sausy]

Just a very sad day for Canada... it's a very heartening tradition for Canadians to remember the fallen, with young corporal Nathan Cirillo the most recent honored. From all accounts a really fine young man, my heart goes to his family. I do think young Mr. Trudeau has the right tone, realistic and determined to protect Canada but not at the risk of turning to fear and letting the extremists win by destroying what Canada's essence is from within.

 

[mikey3000]

And lets not forget the two soldiers in Montreal who were run down, one killed, in another terrorist attack just two days prior to this event. I think that is part of the shock, that three of our boys were attacked on home turf by our own.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/apparent-terrorist-attack-kills-canadian-soldier-in-montreal/

 

[Cormac135]

And lets not forget the two soldiers in Montreal who were run down, one killed, in another terrorist attack just two days prior to this event. I think that is part of the shock, that three of our boys were attacked on home turf by our own.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/apparent-terrorist-attack-kills-canadian-soldier-in-montreal/

Our prayers are with them all.

 

[Kulindahr]

IS is Islam to the n'th degree
Like all extreme religious groups they have parsed the very worst of their religious teachings to their own ends

I'd say that IS is f(Islam)^n, where f is defined as taking the most violent and prejudiced and narrow aspects and crossing that with barbaric machismo and the narrowest tribalism.

 

[Kulindahr]

That is fair if it is also true that the Inquisition or the Crusades were Christianity to the Nth degree, or the Holocaust was Germany to the nth degree, or the Reign of Terror was France to the nth degree, or the Amritsar Massacre was Imperial England to the nth degree, or that Perez Hilton is out-and-loud homosexuality to the nth degree.

If the nadir of each group is a fair representation of its name, then yes, ISiS is an Islamic group.

Nutters like these are going to be nutters no matter what; religion is just their justification of their nuttery. The nutterism doesn't come from the religion, but infects it with whatever Nietschian will-to-power elements exist in the society that produced them.

 

[Kulindahr]

Islamic state fight and die for Islam.
Which part of it is not Islam ?

I know most Muslims reject Islamic state BUT they are still Islamic.

IS is Islam spiced with tribalism, uber-machismo, and a hefty dose of barbarism, along with a preference for not thinking; it isn't pure Islam, but a very tainted version. OTOH they are more like their Prophet than most Muslims, given that the big M himself was a terrorist and brigand.

 

[Kulindahr]

I saw this tribute on another site this morning.
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I found it to be very moving.

How about a statue of the guy, permanently "on duty" there?