False, educate yourself cuz now you're embarrassing yourself with miseducation and misinformation. Gay marriage was legal in South Africa before it was legal in my home state of Illinois.
		
		
	 
South Africa is just a little tiny part of the continent, and you can argue it's not really technically Africa, as majority of Australian whites, and other races live there. In simple terms, it's very much homophobic. lol. It's just one of the areas where people don't give a fuck, but you will still be harassed for being gay as it's very un African.
You go anywhere else in Africa and try to be gay, it's your funeral. 
	
	
		
		
			Ancient kings in Africa had same-sex and cross-gender lovers
		
		
	 
If you were a member of royalty, (king, prince, etc.) or a witch doctor or healer, you were allowed to be gay without punishment. 
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Plus even though there are a lot of problems with both race and homosexuality, there is a point where you are only being self defeating and using these issues as a means to never do anything about them or yourself.
		
		
	 
How am I being self defeating? I'm not that depressed or suicidal.
I'm still living and breathing right? I go out and attempt to ask guys out all the time online and in the real world with fail. I'm not giving up anytime soon. The fuck you mean self defeating? 
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Breh, self hate is unhealthy.  Hate is something you learn to do.  No one grows up to hate themselves or hate other people.
		
		
	 
I'm not self hating. I don't hate being gay. I just notice all the negativity around it. Negativity isn't always hate.  
	
	
		
		
			I would also like to say as a gay person, we also learn that we basically need other people to approve of us instead of just going about life without caring about what others think as long as we are comfortable with ourselves.  It's not just folks finding their niche but wanting to be "the one" among other gay people.  Sorry but this type of thinking is not healthy.  It's not.  It's a codependent type of mentality.  That's negative as hell.  
It's actually pathetic to be honest when you look at how many gay men who are in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s and up that think like that.
		
		
	 
Because that's not enough. We want to be smiled back at when we walk down the street. We want to find romance, we want to make network opportunities. We want to not get fired for being ourselves at work. We want to be able live life as first class citizens. 
If we just ignored all those issues, it's not solving anything. My goal is hopefully this thread wakes people the fuck up and we start to work issues in our own fucking community first. Bears don't hang with twinks. Masc guys don't like fems. Just ugh. 
	
	
		
		
			The reality is...  it really doesn't benefit a gay man to basically stay confined in the gay community.  It's ass backwards.  As an adult, you supposed to be doing your own thing.  Why you need how many people to tell you what you should be doing with your life and freedom?  I think the gay community and gayborhoods serves it purpose for people who are coming out or need support in building themselves up.  Back then, it served it's purpose when gay people had nowhere to go.  Now, its like useless once you get to the point where you have found your base and can do whatever you please embracing who you are.
		
		
	 
Because like a fem gay guy like myself, it's hard to assimilate with the straight culture. Most of my friends are my co-workers which are old straight white men. They don't understand the gay lifestyle, but they support me as a friend. We go out to places and sports games and I pretend to be their adopted black son because I do look twinkish and childish lol. 
I would just like to hang with my gay brothers sometime and it's hard when this community is so divisive and unwelcoming. I would just like that extra support. Not that I have an issue hanging with straight guys, there is a fine line I can't cross with them. 
	
	
		
		
			Like personally, I really don't care about having a clique of gay friends simply because we are gay.  I would want to be able to connect with them personally for who they are as individuals. As long as I have people around me whether they are gay, straight, black, white, old, young, man, woman or whoever that are willing to understand me and accept me for who I am and i would do the same for them.  That's what counts.
		
		
	 
I see what you mean. But as I said before. Majority if not all of my real life friends are straight guys and I can only do so much with them. They won't go to any gay bars or events with me. I feel like I'm their son or younger brother in some cases, and friendships shouldn't be like that. We go on fishing and hunting trips, and I like it. 
I just wish I could be around gay men like that and network and socialize with them, but I just can't and it sucks.   
I mean, I feel who could understand you better than gay men themselves. Not married older white guys which comprise of most of my friends.
	
	
		
		
			And it's always good to watch the company you keep.  Half of these gay guys are self destructing so what are they going to teach you or encourage you to do?  Self destruct too.  It's a crab in a barrel mentality.  I got love for my community, will ride for the cause and will stand up against discrimination and bullshit BUT that doesn't mean that I have to limit myself by only socializing and interacting with only gay people.
		
		
	 
I see. But it's not about the community. It's just about society in whole.
You're ideal is, spend time with people who are not gay, and my main thesis is that society in a whole has this negative impact on homosexuality in general. So it's makes things more difficult.
Not to mention if you don't already have something against you that it makes it harder to socialize, like in my case I'm black.