Britney Spears [Mega-Merged] Thread

[luvic405]

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ok, so mona lisa, sure, fine, she wrote it--but how many songs called 'mona lisa' have there been? but no--not generic...
everytime. she fairly nice there, but if it were gaga, they'd be better AND she'd be playing the piano...

touch of my hand, i bet you anything she's lip syncing there...

'let go' is that even her? sounds different....?

i've just begun...well maybe she wrote it, but it's generic and there's nothing special about it, no meaning. just shallow...

and then we kiss is all right. no big complaints there

mannequin--sounds just like everything else, no originality. and there are other songs that are about the same thing, called the same thing.

someday i will understand is nice.
and on wikipedia, she receives no credit for writing scary...so. and plus it's just another boring, stereotypical song..

i'm not trying to hate on her, i'm merely saying:
a) she's not as musically/artistically talented as gaga;
b) her recent stuff, she's trying too hard to fit in and sound like kesha--but she should leave it to kesha, because kesha's superior at that sound.

 

[JesseNYC]

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ok, so mona lisa, sure, fine, she wrote it--but how many songs called 'mona lisa' have there been? but no--not generic...
everytime. she fairly nice there, but if it were gaga, they'd be better AND she'd be playing the piano...

touch of my hand, i bet you anything she's lip syncing there...

'let go' is that even her? sounds different....?

i've just begun...well maybe she wrote it, but it's generic and there's nothing special about it, no meaning. just shallow...

and then we kiss is all right. no big complaints there

mannequin--sounds just like everything else, no originality. and there are other songs that are about the same thing, called the same thing.

someday i will understand is nice.
and on wikipedia, she receives no credit for writing scary...so. and plus it's just another boring, stereotypical song..

i'm not trying to hate on her, i'm merely saying:
a) she's not as musically/artistically talented as gaga;
b) her recent stuff, she's trying too hard to fit in and sound like kesha--but she should leave it to kesha, because kesha's superior at that sound.

That is your opinion and as biased as it is I respect it. So you should also respect that I think Gaga's management/production team is just as large or larger than Britney's.

And PS
Listen to Blackout. Gaga and Ke$ha built a lot of their music off that record. It is the most influential pop record of the past 5 years. And trust me... Femme Fatale is going to influence a lot of pop music in the next couple years.

 

[stephe24]

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ok, so mona lisa, sure, fine, she wrote it--but how many songs called 'mona lisa' have there been? but no--not generic...
everytime. she fairly nice there, but if it were gaga, they'd be better AND she'd be playing the piano...

touch of my hand, i bet you anything she's lip syncing there...

'let go' is that even her? sounds different....?

i've just begun...well maybe she wrote it, but it's generic and there's nothing special about it, no meaning. just shallow...

and then we kiss is all right. no big complaints there

mannequin--sounds just like everything else, no originality. and there are other songs that are about the same thing, called the same thing.

someday i will understand is nice.
and on wikipedia, she receives no credit for writing scary...so. and plus it's just another boring, stereotypical song..

i'm not trying to hate on her, i'm merely saying:
a) she's not as musically/artistically talented as gaga;
b) her recent stuff, she's trying too hard to fit in and sound like kesha--but she should leave it to kesha, because kesha's superior at that sound.

First, yes I got the Scary writing credits wrong...for some reason I thought I read she wrote it. Must have been something else so I apologize.

Second, She's not Gaga. You want Gaga? Watch a Gaga video. Gaga's songs are pop. How many of Gaga's songs have a deep meaning?

Bad Romance-relationship
Poker Face- relationship
Disco Stick- sex
Just Dance- dancing
Speechless- yes deep meaning.
Born This Way- fitting in and being gay is ok. Not a new concept. Firework? F***in Perfect? Beautiful?

Wow..those concepts are SOOOOOOO different from everything out there right now..really. So glad Gaga can invent relationships because I was wondering what to call 2 people in love.

Pop music is about sex and love. Stop trying to find deep meaning in stuff that isn't supposed to be that meaningful.

 

[innocentbychoice]

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PS - does anyone remember her rehearsal for Mannequin in For The Record documentary? back in 2008? It didn't look like like she was giving it her all (energy wise), but you can still see that FIRE in that rehearsal. Like, LEGIT fire. Like 2003 fire. But when she goes on stage, she hides it. I really don't understand why..

Do you have a link? I want to see that.

why is she praised so much?!
a) her voice is mediocre at best.
b) she writes none of her own songs
c) her songs are MEANINGless (let's dance til the world ends? been done too many times before. being attracted to someone at a club? WAY too overdone.
this album is the most generic, meaningless pop CRAP ever. i'm sorry. but how is this significant, in depth music? it's not, that's the point. it's honestly a disgrace. it sounds like she's trying to rip of kesha with this one, but kesha's better at making meaningless music.
idk. i used to love britney. but she's god awful now. i write better music than what she releases.

While I agree with most of what you say, I don't think point C is a problem. That's who Britney is, that's her identity as a performer and that's fine. We all need cool dance songs and not all songs need to be deep and meaningful. I for one don't expect her to sing anything besides hot club songs, and she's great at it.

This has always been one of my favorites from her. Everyone kept complaining about her not singing live at all on the tour and she just whipped this out as a surprise one day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm7xWiKlw5A

Now if she could do that more often, people who criticize her performances (like me) would back off.

Only criticism I had was TTWE had too much of an annoying Kesha influence (to the dumbass who said she was trying to bite off of Kesha, Kesha wrote the song, genius), and Will.i.am cannot rap, or produce. Good job making Britney sound like Fergie. Good job making Britney sound retarded. Transitive Property folks.

Will.i.am has a style. Britney wanted that style, so the song sound like a Will.i.am song...cuz it IS a Will.i.am song. No big deal there.

In any case most of the techno pop songs out there sound pretty much the same, hot beats with wayyy too computer-modified voices.

Someday I Will Understand - Is her best ballad ever

Steph there was a interview with a song writer where he mentioned that she is very much involved in the song writing process but does not care about getting writing credits... I wonder what interview was that and if you all view the videos I posted - Britney Spears - Mad Genius, y'all can see how very much involved in her career she is

That's bullshit. If she was really involved with the writing process she would be fighting for those rights believe me. Why? Because writers get money whenever a song they wrote is played on the radio (I think that's called writers royalty or something?) while performers don't get shit. That's why Beyonce's management always pushes for her to have writing credits in every song while some claim she doesn't write shit and just wants to get the royalties (look for the articles online).

 

[innocentbychoice]

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LOL Um, when did you and I start agreeing with each other on something, Innocent? Now I KNOW this is a sign of the apocalypse! Oh LAWD, we-all-gon-die! LOL

Did we ever have a problem? I don't remember lol. But I'm sure it has to do with me criticizing Gaga lol.

Personally I'd say it's paranoid delusion brought on by post-traumatic stress in witnessing the 2007 headshaving, paparazzi umbrella attacking, rehab stint requiring breakdown.

Makes sense.

This just shows you how limited she is under her conservatorship. Fuck her management. She would be a better performer without those restraints she has.

Makes me think that she really isn't a 100% well. She must be on meds or something and that might explain her lazy performances.

 

[stephe24]

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innocentbychoice-

Here is the mannequin rehearsal vid from 2008

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnSXW7CwGEw[/ame]

 

[innocentbychoice]

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Seems like most on here either like Britney or Gaga, but not both. Any other Lady Gaga & Britney fans out there? I like them both. Also a fan of Beyonce, Katy Perry, Rihanna, P!nk, Nicki Minaj and Ke...I just have a thing for these divas I guess.

I'm here!! I like them all, Christina, Britney, Gaga and others but specially them 3. But I am by no means a stan, so I criticize the fuck out of them when I feel they're doing something wrong.

 

[innocentbychoice]

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innocentbychoice-

Here is the mannequin rehearsal vid from 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnSXW7CwGEw

Looks good! A lot more closer to the classic Britney. So what the heck happens to her when she's on stage and videos?? I insist, there must be something else, I'm not buying the knee excuse anymore, look how she works it in that video! maybe she gets to anxious and takes pills that make her a bit drowsy?? I don't know I'm just guessing really.

 

[luvic405]

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That is your opinion and as biased as it is I respect it. So you should also respect that I think Gaga's management/production team is just as large or larger than Britney's.

And PS
Listen to Blackout. Gaga and Ke built a lot of their music off that record. It is the most influential pop record of the past 5 years. And trust me... Femme Fatale is going to influence a lot of pop music in the next couple years.

what do you mean her production team is as large as britney's, though? and
yes, but so will gaga's born this way album.

 

[luvic405]

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First, yes I got the Scary writing credits wrong...for some reason I thought I read she wrote it. Must have been something else so I apologize.

Second, She's not Gaga. You want Gaga? Watch a Gaga video. Gaga's songs are pop. How many of Gaga's songs have a deep meaning?

Bad Romance-relationship
Poker Face- relationship
Disco Stick- sex
Just Dance- dancing
Speechless- yes deep meaning.
Born This Way- fitting in and being gay is ok. Not a new concept. Firework? F***in Perfect? Beautiful?

Wow..those concepts are SOOOOOOO different from everything out there right now..really. So glad Gaga can invent relationships because I was wondering what to call 2 people in love.

Pop music is about sex and love. Stop trying to find deep meaning in stuff that isn't supposed to be that meaningful.

yes, gaga is pop, but her music is a whole lot deeper/more meaningful than britney's--because she writes it herself.
let's go down the list...
lovegame, yes--it's about a relationship, but it's also unique because it asks the question "can she/one have love AND fame, or does one have to be sacrificed for the other?
paparazzi--absolutely meaningful
pokerface--yes, a relationship, but still it's about her sexuality and it's about real things that have happened.
BDR--meaningful, yes, because it details her life in the lower east side
boys boys boys--includes events that have happened to her and details a real life relationship she had.
brown eyes--extremely meaningful.
bad romance--another relationship song, BUT you can't tell me it's not unique
alejandro--arguably the deepest on her album.
monster--definitely deep...?
speechless--about her father and his operation
dance in the dark--about her fear of sex/self
telephone--meaningful not on the literal meaning, but the figurative meaning (but it was written for britney, so of course it wouldn't be deep).
teeth--her fear of the truth and how she struggles between desiring and hiding from the truth.
and ok, born this way wasn't the first song of its category. but do you notice how she says she's going to release a song like that...and then kesha, katy, and pink all do after? not saying they copied--i like them all--but still. no it's not new, but she includes references of her past, which make it deeper than the average "love yourself" song.
so you 100% can't tell me gaga is generic and shallow like britney.

sure, most pop music is sex and love, yes. but gaga adds SO much more to it than britney...

 

[JesseNYC]

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what do you mean her production team is as large as britney's, though? and
yes, but so will gaga's born this way album.

I'm saying Gaga is just as much a product as Britney is. Her management makes just as many decisions and controls her.

That is my opinion.

And if "Born This Way" the single is any inclination of the rest of the album then no, no it won't.

 

[stephe24]

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yes, gaga is pop, but her music is a whole lot deeper/more meaningful than britney's--because she writes it herself.
let's go down the list...
lovegame, yes--it's about a relationship, but it's also unique because it asks the question "can she/one have love AND fame, or does one have to be sacrificed for the other?
paparazzi--absolutely meaningful
pokerface--yes, a relationship, but still it's about her sexuality and it's about real things that have happened.
BDR--meaningful, yes, because it details her life in the lower east side
boys boys boys--includes events that have happened to her and details a real life relationship she had.
brown eyes--extremely meaningful.
bad romance--another relationship song, BUT you can't tell me it's not unique
alejandro--arguably the deepest on her album.
monster--definitely deep...?
speechless--about her father and his operation
dance in the dark--about her fear of sex/self
telephone--meaningful not on the literal meaning, but the figurative meaning (but it was written for britney, so of course it wouldn't be deep).
teeth--her fear of the truth and how she struggles between desiring and hiding from the truth.
and ok, born this way wasn't the first song of its category. but do you notice how she says she's going to release a song like that...and then kesha, katy, and pink all do after? not saying they copied--i like them all--but still. no it's not new, but she includes references of her past, which make it deeper than the average "love yourself" song.
so you 100% can't tell me gaga is generic and shallow like britney.

sure, most pop music is sex and love, yes. but gaga adds SO much more to it than britney...

Woowwwww. Oky doky. Keep on telling yourself these pop songs about sex have very deep meanings. I know that when I'm drunk/dancing my ass off at a bar these things mean nothing to me but having a great rhythmic beat. So...you have fun with your deep interpretations of pop...

Innocentbychoice-I guess she just could be really nervous and thinking she's going to fail? I have no idea. She's not up to par with herself but rehearsals clips she's always full out with no inhibitions. For The Record also shows her dancing full out in rehearsals. Maybe it's a psychological thing now for her and she keeps holding back for some reason. I thin her confidence has been battered to hell. No clue...Hopefully one day we'll see her come back out. I think she's gaining confidence so we'll see...

 

[AndrewC88]

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Do you have a link? I want to see that.



While I agree with most of what you say, I don't think point C is a problem. That's who Britney is, that's her identity as a performer and that's fine. We all need cool dance songs and not all songs need to be deep and meaningful. I for one don't expect her to sing anything besides hot club songs, and she's great at it.



Now if she could do that more often, people who criticize her performances (like me) would back off.




Will.i.am has a style. Britney wanted that style, so the song sound like a Will.i.am song...cuz it IS a Will.i.am song. No big deal there.

In any case most of the techno pop songs out there sound pretty much the same, hot beats with wayyy too computer-modified voices.




That's bullshit. If she was really involved with the writing process she would be fighting for those rights believe me. Why? Because writers get money whenever a song they wrote is played on the radio (I think that's called writers royalty or something?) while performers don't get shit. That's why Beyonce's management always pushes for her to have writing credits in every song while some claim she doesn't write shit and just wants to get the royalties (look for the articles online).

Britney is very humble and down to earth. She is not money hungry like Beyonce and others....clearly.
Britney made $64 Million last year...doing nothing but recording and going to Starbucks...... Girl don't need her name on credits

 

[TennisFan07]

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I'm saying Gaga is just as much a product as Britney is. Her management makes just as many decisions and controls her.

That is my opinion.

And if "Born This Way" the single is any inclination of the rest of the album then no, no it won't.

Gaga has made it pretty clear that BTW was meant to be a simple song about just loving yourself and that the rest of her album gets back to the Gaga we know. The lyrics for Judas have been posted, a remix of Government Hooker, and she has performed "You and I" multiple times...none are like BTW.

I really like Femme Fatale and Britney, but some of you are in fantasy land if you don't think Born This Way is going to be a much bigger hit.

It really appears that Britney is just going through the motions anymore while you know Gaga will promote the hell out of her album and actually look excited about it.

 

[Nocturnal]

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hi, i'm the dumbass. and i KNOW kesha wrote the song, dumbass, i'm saying it's way too kesha-like--obviously since kesha wrote it. but if you'd read my post, dumbass, i was saying that britney shouldn't try to sound like kesha (HIAM and TTWE) because kesha does it better than she.

and gaga has nothing on this album?? >.< that's sort of funny. if you think cliched, boring, auto-tuned songs that she didn't write are no match for gaga's meaningful, different and written her self songs...then fine. but gaga is not generic in the slightest. BTW has references to her childhood (her mother and her childhood, her NYC upbringing)...what personal information does britney have in any of her songs? none? right--because she doesn't write them. another song on gaga's new album will be called edge of glory--written about her grandfather's death. another, marry the night, about her life as a celebrity and how it's changed her but how she is still the same. another, you and i, about meeting with an old boyfriend for one more amazing time. judas, about her conflict with the past and present and how her past mistakes can't form he rpresent character.

if you think GAGA is generic, you probably have never heard a britney spears song--
DUMBASS

LOL BAM! Oh you get an Oh Snap! Award for that!

Oh you go boy!

Mad genius is a great watch into how much input Britney actually has in her career. But people would rather just say she does nothing instead of actually taking the time to research all she really does.

Spears just along for the ride — all the way to the bank​

It takes a village to keep Britney Spears doing what she does best: selling stuff.

No fewer than 28 songwriters and 13 producers manicured the 12 songs on "Femme Fatale" (Jive), Spears' seventh studio album. In that respect, it is scarcely different from most of her albums, committee efforts that position Spears as a brand rather than an artist with potentially dangerous thoughts of her own.

In a world where Lady Gaga aspires to turn dance-pop "entertainment" into an art form, Spears is perfectly happy to let her collaborators do the heavy lifting and the heavy thinking.

To her credit, she has never pretended to approach it any other way, and it has turned her into a very wealthy icon, with more than 100 million album sales worldwide since her 1999 debut. On "Femme Fatale" she doesn't even bother to shake down a songwriting credit, preferring to let the highly paid professionals do it instead.

If nothing else it only adds to her aura: that of a teen-pop heiress entrusting the hired guns to do her bidding — or to use her any way they choose so long as they keep her in the Top 10.

She's smart that way. "Femme Fatale" dispenses with the messy personal baggage and real-life subtext attached to two previous albums, "Blackout" (2007) and "Circus" (2008), and simply goes for the dance-floor gusto. It succeeds as pure escapism, a testament to the ability of producers such as Dr. Luke, Max Martin and, especially, Bloodshy and Avant to jack up jam-packed discos.

Spears allows herself to be treated like another passenger in these rhythm trains. Her nasal, pinched voice has never been particularly astonishing, and now it's mashed and distorted into another texture, a wall of Auto-Tuned bleeps and bionic loops.

It's just as well when given lyrics such as "Your body's so sick I think I caught the flu" and metaphors that assert her libido is "steaming like a pot full of vegetables." Pass the asparagus.[/B]

She cheerfully submits because Spears prefers pop immediacy to revelation. If "Blackout" and "Circus" showed evidence of self-reflection, a Gaga-like ability to comment on herself as a Pop Object, "Femme Fatale" reduces Spears' world to lusting bodies and lustier music.

Though larded with filler (Spears, after all, has always been about singles, not albums), "Femme Fatale" contains enough slammers to ensure that the celebrity-singer's place on the pop charts will be secure for at least the next year. And that's really all that matters. "Till the World Ends" sets the tone with its steady climb into Euro-disco ebullience, with stuttering, wordless vocals and grand washes of synthesizers. "Keep on dancing till the world ends," Spears chirps, and several songs follow her command: "I Wanna Go," in which a whistled melody answers a springy bass line; the arcade-game fireworks of "How I Roll"; the wicked grind of "Hold It Against Me," easily the hardest-edged Spears single yet despite a chorus that resurrects a Groucho Marx joke.

There's also a flash of avant-pop in a more subdued vein: "Trip to Your Heart," produced by the Swedish team of Christian Karlsson (Bloodshy) and Pontus Winnberg (Avant). Over a clipped backdrop that at times sounds like white-noise static, bell-like notes accent an airy, almost vaporous vocal. The voice belongs to Spears, but it could be anyone's — an anonymous ghost in the dance machine. Source

Did we ever have a problem? I don't remember lol. But I'm sure it has to do with me criticizing Gaga lol.

LOL I think we had a brawl at some point! LOL

I'm saying Gaga is just as much a product as Britney is. Her management makes just as many decisions and controls her.

That is my opinion.

And if "Born This Way" the single is any inclination of the rest of the album then no, no it won't.

Sorry cutie, both of those statements only prove you know nothing about Lady Gaga.

In numerous interviews Gaga has stated that the 'Born This Way' single has a completely different vibe from the rest of the album, which is very dark.
She likened 'BTW' as the gateway drug to the rest of the album's harder, more intense songs.

Gets me so fucking excited reading that article!!!!

 

[stephe24]

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Just found this and the ending choreo looks much tighter..she still turned wrong but it looks much more energetic to me. She's been improving with each performance so I hope she'll keep rehearsing and hopefully the energy will keep picking up.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OgnfjVcjVM[/ame]

 

[stephe24]

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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJQLkIldgt8[/ame]

 

[luvic405]

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I'm saying Gaga is just as much a product as Britney is. Her management makes just as many decisions and controls her.

That is my opinion.

And if "Born This Way" the single is any inclination of the rest of the album then no, no it won't.

oh. well, i disagree with you on that. gaga is quite certainly her own person and i definitely believe she's wise enough to make her own decisions. britney? err....not so much. just my opinion.
and i'm terrified for you if you think HIAM is better than BTW
X)
i mean HIAM has a mediocre-to-average beat (though cliched and recylced), but the lyrics are the epitome of regurgated foulness.
BTW, the album, is going to be 100% epic. and if you looked into gaga's plans for the album, you'd know that she's stated on numerous occasions BTW is like nothing else on the album

 

[luvic405]

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Woowwwww. Oky doky. Keep on telling yourself these pop songs about sex have very deep meanings. I know that when I'm drunk/dancing my ass off at a bar these things mean nothing to me but having a great rhythmic beat. So...you have fun with your deep interpretations of pop... QUOTE]

with all due respect, who the fuck declared that you decide whether a song is meaningful or not when you're drunk and dancing?! O_O lmao
seriously. maybe they're not the most deep songs out there, but like you said--pop isn't SUPPOSED to be deep and meaningful. britney's follows that normal, obvious standard--because she can't be anything special or unique. she prefers to be like everyone else. gaga doesn't follow that standard though, so, that's the difference

 

[luvic405]

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LOL BAM! Oh you get an Oh Snap! Award for that!

Oh you go boy!

Spears just along for the ride — all the way to the bank​

LOL I think we had a brawl at some point! LOL

Sorry cutie, both of those statements only prove you know nothing about Lady Gaga.

In numerous interviews Gaga has stated that the 'Born This Way' single has a completely different vibe from the rest of the album, which is very dark.
She likened 'BTW' as the gateway drug to the rest of the album's harder, more intense songs.

Gets me so fucking excited reading that article!!!!

>_< i guess i was a drag, not a queen XD
<3

and THANK YOU. these people obviously know NOTHING about gaga because they just really sound silly here. aha. i didn't mean to come here and stir havoc in the britney department; but i just had to share my opinion with how disappointed in her i was.

p.s. sorry for all my posts. i don't know how to do all these quotes in one post