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Could you be friends with someone who opposed gay marriage?

Would you be friends with someone who opposed gay marriage?

  • Yes

    Votes: 106 54.9%

  • No

    Votes: 87 45.1%
  • Total voters
    193
Yes, and there are plenty of straight people out there who respect me and my family. My best friend is a straight guy, let's not forget. Many of my friends are straight and they all agree that I should have equal rights to them.

Because I would only ever be friends with people who think of me as equal to them. Why would I want to be friends with a person who looked down on me?
 
Or maybe he'd be able to say "Some of my best friends are gay and they accept that I don't agree they deserve to be equal." Maybe he'd take my friendship as a validation of his... attitude.

Marjorie what's her name from El Coyote worked with gay people for her whole life... met their partners... was their "friend." she still didn't understand why they were annoyed when she donated money to Prop 8. She thought they were friends.

Either way, why waste time with someone like that?
 
Unclean said:
With so many gay/bi guys saying they don't see this as an issue of discrimination on the part of their "friends," it's no wonder such a large percentage of the general population feels it's ok to grant special rights to straight people.
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I was thinking the same thing.

No wonder they feel it's alright to discriminate or punish us for not being... them. We shrug it off.

I wonder if you told a Christian that you didn't think they should have rights that you have.. if they'd feel the same.
 
1big14me said:
Marriage is a Religious and a social issue, and the State should have no perogatives in the issue. Now, Civil unions is a state matter, therefore, all rights across the board aught to be given equally as in a man and woman civil union.

My older Brother's Gay, and is in a civil union with his partner and is happy where he's at at the moment. They have been together for almost 19 years. The key to their sucess is communication. Is that happening with the rest of you guys who want marriage? are you serious about commitment to each other? will you still be together when your respective bodies began to look unattractive?
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OK, that's probably the most obnoxious thing you've ever posted.

My husband and I have been together for 17 years. I think it's pretty cheap to suggest that gay people don't deserve marriage because they're only interested as long as you're young and hot.

Have all the opinions you want about how the state shouldn't sanction marriage.. the truth is that they do. My husband is a Canadian citizen and we live under the specter that he could be refused a work visa any year and we'd have to leave our life here. A straight couple would just run to Vegas and get married and the foreign spouse would be rewarded with a green card. A gay couple doesn't have that.

A straight couple has about 1000 rights, protections and privileges that civil unions don't offer and no.. you can't just get them with legal paperwork. You say your brother is happy with having less. Well bully for him.

Call me kooky but I think that after 17 years together, we deserve what Britney Spears can get by staggering drunk into a chapel in Vegas.

Don't you?
 
Governments have been setting the rules for marriage for centuries now. Religious groups lost the stranglehold on marriage a long long time ago.
 
1big14me said:
You are making a very bad judgement here.
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Yeah, well there you go. Tell you what...

You don't want me to judge your friends (who work for an organization with a history of protecting child molesters)? Don't suggest that my 17-year relationship is based on being young and hot or suggest that I should be "happy" with less rights since I'm only in it for my husbands looks, ok?
 
1big14me said:
and what is the percentages of the priests and Bishops are actually guilty of molesting children? Google Cardinal Joseph Bernadine of Chicago and see how he is found to be innocent. You cannot fault the entire institution for the errors and mistakes of a few. That is plain stupidity.
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The people who are actually guilty of molesting children are the tip of the iceberg. The people who covered up the problem, protected the molesters and moved them around, and intimidated the victims and their parents, are at least equally culpable, and THEIR number is far greater. In fact I would speculate that a majority of bishops and above had some involvement.

The Roman Catholic Church is an unbelievably corrupt organization. Anyone who looks to it for moral guidance of any kind would be well advised to look elsewhere.
 
It seems to me that those who are okay with anti-gay-marriage friends don't understand that the issue of gay marriage isn't just political; It's a manifestation of how society regards its glbt people.

Denying us gay marraige means that our society doesn't believe that glbt families or couple aren't as deserving of recognition and legal protection those of straights.

To me: it's insane and infuriating that so many of us in this thread don't understand this concept.

Maybe the breeders aren't the only ones that need to be educated on why denying glbt people legal priveleges, rights and protections is a bad thing. (Even though it sounds like a complete no-brainer).
 
1big14me said:
Regardless, The Catholic Church has survived far worse persecution in its History.
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And been the cause of a lot more.

But we're getting off topic.

The point is that you seemed to say that we should be "happy" with civil unions since your brother is willing to settle for it and besides, we're all going to get divorced once one of us get fat (although I guess your brother is exempt from that part.)

It was a VERY cheap shot, totally uncalled for and just plain rude.

Not unlike the people who told Rosa Parks "Oh, the back of the bus is much more comfortable, anyway."
 
davy said:
Maybe the breeders aren't the only ones that need to be educated on why denying glbt people legal priveleges, rights and protections is a bad thing. (Even though it sounds like a complete no-brainer).
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you'd think.

But this is just another symptom of the inferiority complex that gay men seem to have. Please, they don't even want other gay men, the majority of them only want straight men... They're all over every detail of the private lives of straight movie stars... the moment a gay one comes out it's "Oh who cares? It's none of anyone's business? EVeryone knew anyway.. why does he have to talk about it?"

Gay people, sadly we can see from this thread, also are more likely to think less of gay people.
 
1big14me said:
Same can be said of many Protestant Churches, and possibly many public institutions then.
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Do you have any evidence of this? Present it. And yes, all the institutions who are as corrupt and culpable for decades of child rape should be subjected to the same treatment the RCC deserves but will not get.

1big14me said:
But you still cannot blame an entire institution for the faults of a few corrupt individuals.
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It's not "a few corrupt individuals," and the people who control the Church are neck-deep in it. For the institution to be cleansed of it would require much of its leadership to be expelled and replaced. You know the habits of the Church...are they going to do that? I think not.

When the people who control an institution are corrupt, the institution is corrupt.

1big14me said:
Regardless, The Catholic Church has survived far worse persecution in its History.
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Oh, give me a fucking BREAK. "Persecution," my ass! It's not persecution to hold an organization responsible for its actual vile behavior, especially when that behavior has gone on for decades worldwide. Playing the persecution card is just reprehensible. I had thought better of you, honestly.
 
I just asked my mom if she thought we should honor Jewish marriages because we're Christian. I mean, we should discriminate against them too right?

The real question is, would you suck the cock of someone who would vote for a ban on gay marriage?
 
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