Dear White Gays: Stop Stealing Black Female Culture

[blackbeltninja]

there's definitely some intellectual dishonesty goin on in here... "oh black women don't have a patent on sass." no, they don't, but to pretend like there isn't an intentional parodying of this typecast is absolutely silly.

^One wonders exactly who perpetuates the typecast, and why it is so prevalent that it has become a typecast.

-d-

 

[luckynumbah7]

It's....all elephants are grey, but not all grey things are elephants. All black women are getting mocked by Shirley Q Liqour, fer instance, but only a subset of poor black women are getting their clothing and hair extensions used as a specific joke.

 

[eastofeden]

Google Shirley Q Liqour, for a start. And they don't 'act' like anything in particular - what's being mocked is their appearance and the fact that women aren't supposed to say "Boo". Which seems to be getting lost. There's no shortage of racist drag queens, let alone sexist drag queens. Drag culture on the gay men's side is often incredibly sexist.

Uh...I have yet to hear any of the black women...or anyone else I know...say "Boo"...and none of them look alike so the appearance thing is lost on me.

IF she is referring to drag queens..they are a miniscule segment of the gay population ..but she didn't say drag queens...she said GAY MEN...lumping us all together as one unit.

I am exiting though..I know better than to discuss race with you or most of the people here by now. I don't need anyone telling me who I am or what I think and that is where it always ends.....

see ya...

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

^One wonders exactly who perpetuates the typecast, and why it is so prevalent that it has become a typecast.

-d-

Gerl huh????

 

[Gentleheart]

Taking a post without reading any of this crapfest.

because 101k+ isn't enough?

 

[luckynumbah7]

Uh...I have yet to hear any of the black women...or anyone else I know...say "Boo"...and none of them look alike so the appearance thing is lost on me.

IF she is referring to drag queens..they are a miniscule segment of the gay population ..but she didn't say drag queens...she said GAY MEN...lumping us all together as one unit.

I am exiting though..I know better than to discuss race with you or most of the people here by now. I don't need anyone telling me who I am or what I think and that is where it always ends.....

see ya...

Oh please, I didn't say jack shit about who you were. I don't give a shit about the purity of your soul and the flowing love for all therein. For that matter, neither does the article. And here's the proof for the curious because your post is an excellent, nay, a perfect example.

You ain't everyone, let alone every gay man or the Grand Poobah of what Gay Male Culture Contains; therefore, if there's a problem and you're not encouraging it along, like Shirley Q. Liqour up there, then feel free to be quiet and back out because the conversation isn't about you and the attitude of "Not gay men, No!" (which is really "I'm All Gay Men, Though Shalt Not Say A Negative Word About Gay Men As A Whole Unless I Don't Like Something About Gay Men As Well" is derailing at best.

Not surprised you haven't heard anyone say "Boo" though - women generally aren't encouraged to voice disagreement, that was the whole point. And if white women aren't encouraged to voice opinions you can be doubly sure black women aren't. You voice an opinion and you get called a bitch. Or get called hostile, or uppity, or sassy, that ever popular term.

 

[eastofeden]

Oh please, I didn't say jack shit about who you were. Neither did the article. And here's the proof for the curious because your post is an excellent, nay, a perfect example.

You ain't everyone, let alone every gay man or the Grand Poobah of what Gay Male Culture Contains; therefore, if there's a problem and you're not encouraging it along, like Shirley Q. Liqour up there, then feel free to be quiet and back out because the conversation isn't about you and the attitude of "Not gay men, No!" (which is really "I'm All Gay Men, Though Shalt Not Say A Negative Word About Gay Men As A Whole Unless I Don't Like Something About Gay Men As Well" is derailing at best.

Not surprised you haven't heard anyone say "Boo" though - women generally aren't encouraged to voice disagreement, that was the whole point. And if white women aren't encouraged to voice opinions you can be doubly sure black women aren't. You voice an opinion and you get called a bitch. Or get called hostile, or uppity, or sassy, that ever popular term.

Yeah..fuck you too...

 

[luckynumbah7]

http://time.com/79357/not-all-men-a-brief-history-of-every-dudes-favorite-argument/

http://www.derailingfordummies.com/

 

[mikemizanin729]

Yeah..fuck you too...

Just put (luckynumbah7) on ignore it's a nasty piece of work that ruined my Disney art and has a ghastly tongue you will feel much better if you just remove his tripe from your screen and flush it down the bowl where all crap belongs.

Stop feeding the troll its dinner.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Dear Mike,

You accidentally put 'his' to go with your first 'it', thus making me seem more human and less Other - might want to rectify that immediately.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Dear Mike,

You accidentally put 'his' to go with your first 'it', thus making me seem more human and less Other - might want to rectify that immediately.

No, I meant to put 'it' there now i shall take my own advice and remove you from my screen.
Have a nice life.

 

[xbuzzerx]

they seem to ignore the fact that they are still white men living in america.

This could practically be the summary line for half of JUB whenever a thread remotely touches on any issue of social inequality that isn't about being a gay male, whether it's gender or race or whatever else. You nailed it Refuji. Being one or any flavor of minority (i.e., a gay male) doesn't mean you are now in an "other" category that is absolutely equally treated as every single other minority in every way conceivable. It also doesn't make you an expert on the totality of any minority group's experience-- even the gay one. A gay male disavowing that there's much privilege in whiteness, or maleness in our society, were he to claim being gay as his shield or qualification to say so, is on no firmer footing than a black reverend denouncing gay people en masse in front of cameras and claiming his blackness or the experience of black America as a shield for saying it-- something, incidentally, that JUB would be quite rapid to shoot down as misguided and hateful.

It's amazing how quickly people who can be dedicated, vigilant stalwarts over the issue of social inequality which impacts them or their life can be so quick to default to mainstream attitudes in their dismissing how social inequality affects anyone else whose experiences they can't possibly speak for.

 

[xbuzzerx]

^One wonders exactly who perpetuates the typecast, and why it is so prevalent that it has become a typecast.

-d-

Largely movies and television made primarily for white mainstream consumption with the entertaining, sassy black sidekick or best friend character who's always there to call out the nonsense or blurt out something amusingly blunt and inappropriate or go "mm MMM" at critical moments.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

This could practically be the summary line for half of JUB whenever a thread remotely touches on any issue of social inequality that isn't about being a gay male

/endthread

 

[mikemizanin729]

Better clean this thread before it gets any worse.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Why is that forehead riding in a limousine?

 

[luckynumbah7]

Why is that forehead riding in a limousine?

Hey now, that forehead runs in my family! Drives my sister nuts, actually, but works really well with a shaved head.

*although on closer inspection, she's got at least 3/4 of an inch on me, which - Damn, just damn.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Hey now, that forehead runs in my family! Drives my sister nuts, actually, but works really well with a shaved head.

My apologies, that was rude of me.

Why is that overpaid stripper masquerading as a pop star riding in a limousine?

 

[luckynumbah7]

I've no idea who she is - maybe she's someone's double? I hear they get paid quite a bit o'funds to lure paparazzi away.

 

[bankside]

Largely movies and television made primarily for white mainstream consumption with the entertaining, sassy black sidekick or best friend character who's always there to call out the nonsense or blurt out something amusingly blunt and inappropriate or go "mm MMM" at critical moments.

Ahh. The original essay was not about gay people appropriating condescending stereotypes of black women. It was about appropriating the culture of black women.