Do JUBbers ever get tired of seeing boys who look like 15 or 16 in the Porn forum? (rant)

[palbert]

....Get lost.

Don't think I can oblige. Truly sorry. Oh, there's the bell... .

 

[Mr-Brooding]

I thought this thread was done, but I guess not.
Can't we all agree to disagree? I mean really, people from different ages groups are definitely going to see 18 year olds differently. When you're a Freshmen in high school, all of the seniors seem like giant adults, but once you're 23 they all look like babies. As we grow, our perceptions grow as well.
Let's just let adults do whatever they want. It's legal and that's all that matters in this specific case.

 

[palbert]

@ Mr-Brooding: Motion seconded.

 

[HunterM]

This is an online forum. It is an open forum. This thread or any thread is not done until it is closed.

 

[DigitalFudge]

I am tired of looking at ugly people. Let's ban ugly people from this forum. I don't care how old they are. If they don't look like 6 foot 1 male model with a wide shoulder, a six pack abs and a 9 inch dick, between the age of 25 to 35 at top physical peak. They should not be here.

Let's vote on this eh?

Couldn't even pass the first test

 

[BFizzle]

I am tired of looking at ugly people. Let's ban ugly people from this forum. I don't care how old they are. If they don't look like 6 foot 1 male model with a wide shoulder, a six pack abs and a 9 inch dick, between the age of 25 to 35 at top physical peak. They should not be here.

Whelp. Let me deactivate my account.

 

[ChickenGuy]

Why is everyone suddenly throwing the word paedophilia around? I never used the word, nor do I equate what I'm talking about with paedophilia. More deflecting and twisting of my words to try to nullify my point.

But let me say this, since you seem determined to draw a line you think none of us dare cross,

I'm fine with barely-legal porn.
If a 50-year-old wants to fuck an 18-year-old who looks like a 12-year-old, that's fine with me.
If a 50-year-old fucks an 18-year-old who looks like a 12-year-old, that's fine with me if it's fine with them.

We'll have to agree to disagree. It certainly ISN'T fine with me, and it never will be.

Although I at least acknowledge that you said it plainly and didn't try to duck round it (unlike a few on here)

Barely-legal porn promotes pedophilia like bondage porn promotes kidnapping.

Actually, you're probably correct there. Again, it's only others, not me, who are now injecting paedophilia into this debate. (No doubt ANOTHER deflection tactic)

Stop and consider what you're saying. Yes you're entitled to not enjoying this particular group of guys. But some of us as legal, consenting adults enjoy younger legal consenting adults. There is no exploitation, no molestation, no pedophile tendency. Just Consensual LEGAL interaction.

I'm fully willing to say I am attracted to younger appearing legal adults. Is that wrong?

No that's not wrong. For one thing I'm only talking about what is sold in porn pics not what you do in your private life, and for another you're 21 and so there isn't really a big age gap there. As I said before I'd probably feel much the same way were I that age again. Were I completely convinced that ALL and EVERY person getting off on said pics were your age or younger, I dare say I'd have less of a problem with it. Regrettably that isn't the case.

No one is sexualising 15-16 year olds.

Bullshit.

So porn companies chasing after boys who look that age is....? what then?

When pics like that are posted, that's EXACTLY what we ARE doing.

Or let me put it another way....

You could conceivably show a REAL 16-year-old in amongst some of them, and no-one would be able to tell the difference, or identify the younger one.

We ARE sexualising 15-16 year olds, and once again I WILL SAY THAT IT'S WRONG.

I totally get where CG is coming from, but imagine you're 18 and you have that look. Imagine you're into guys who are a bit older. Not even "daddy" age, just like 25-30.

Wouldn't you hate it if everyone made it taboo for someone to want you?

You're one of the few around here who makes a pertinent and reasonable point, and I accept it. I'm only concerned here with porn images in the public domain, and what is shown on the internet. What any normal 18-year-old does in his everyday life isn't what I'm getting at.

There is no "issue" to be deflected, there's just your closed-mindedness.

Oh, so if I raise ANY concerns about the seemingly under-age appearance of some porn models, and the questionable pursuit of them for sexual purposes, then I'm being closed-minded am I? I suppose you think I should just 'go with the flow' and pretend to condone it?

This has to be one of the dumbest things ever wrote on the internet.

The issue is an 18 year old looks like an 18 year old. It is only your opinion that they look like a 15 or 16 year old. Frankly it says more about you CG and your supporters than it does us.

It's my opinion based on fact, that a few of them I saw yesterday bear a startling resemblance in facial features to my cousin when he was 14-15. I've no idea about body, but I doubt it. I never saw my cousin naked, lol.

And far from being dumb, I say that a few JUBbers on here are turning a blind eye to it and sweeping it under the carpet. I will say however that I'd probably replace my phrase 'obviously plenty of you' with 'apparently some of you' if that makes you feel better.

So stop trying to impose your own ideals onto everyone else.

LOL! So first I was closed-minded and now I'm imposing ideals am I?

And what massively controversial 'ideal' am I 'imposing' .... that 18-years-olds should look 18. It's a shocker. How terribly authoritarian and oppressive of me. Guess I should just 'go with the flow' again, eh?

This thread is a virtual celebration of outright ignorance and intolerance.

I will say what I like. It's at best a highly questionable practice, and at worst morally wrong and disgraceful. Put THAT it your oh-so socially liberal, boundary-pushing, 'progressive' left-wing pipe and smoke it.

 

[hungkee]

a few others who understand the point I'm making.

...THE ISSUE IS whether it is right or healthy to be sexualising 15 and 16 year olds. I say it isn't, but obviously plenty of you are fine with it and choose instead to HIDE BEHIND the blatant EXCUSE that his age is 18, so it doesn't matter.


...Either you're OK with constant images of boys who DON'T LOOK 18 or you're not.

Your comments here are not, shall we say, "accurate". Your own subject line is: Do JUBbers ever get tired of seeing boys who look like 15 or 16 in the Porn forum? (rant), just to remind you.

Then you say in this comment its about sexualizing actual 15 and 16 year olds. But your original rant was about all of the barely legal sorts of porn you find here at JustUsBoys (and other places on the 'net, too, I would suspect).

Also your observation as to what LOOKS to be 15 or 16 years of age is a bit subjective. Since we're discussing 18+ year olds in porn , they are the physiques and faces of 18 year olds. That's what some of them look like. So perhaps some of this "debate" is rooted in what people BELIEVE or perceive to be a certain age or another rather than the REALITY of the matter.

If one walked into an Army physicals room on a military base and saw the YOUTHFUL frames and faces of many of the 18 yr olds going off to war...we'd all wonder how we can send some KIDS to war at all.

Think of the big, brawny officers looking over those kids - and knowing they look like their own 15 & 16 year old sons at home.

But they aren't 15 or 16. They're 18 (and 19 and 20) and willingly signed up. Because they're of legal age to do so.

So you don't deny a baby-faced, lanky, smooth, nearly hairless kid with a 9 inch dick and tiny ass entry to the army just because he could still play a high schooler on t.v.. If he's 18 and rearin' to find action in the battlefield, well, its just the sort of kid the military wants.

And does that make the barracks shower room a pedo hose down playspace? I mean, if older soldiers all gang shower with such fellow soldiers, are the hairier, bigger-muscled soldiers all pedos for sharing the same shower head with one of these recruits who LOOKS 15 or 16? They know he isn't 15 or 16. He's one of their comrades and equals. And he might even have a bigger dick than they do.

Now had your original post been about the actual sexualization of actual 15 & 16 year-old boys (or young, under-aged teens in general), then that would have been a whole different "debate". And I hate to say it but I think the boat has sailed on that one especially since the advent of the Internet. Boys that age are already sexualized within their own circles. I mean, to be a parent of 13-16 yr old boys when it comes to sex must be a major challenge. But then, even the kids as young as 8 and 12 are highly sexualized today.

We live in a highly sexualized - even hyper-sexualized - culture.

But its not the same "debate" as saying that jacking to a physical type WHO IS 18-PLUS is somehow pedophile.

No moreso than straight men who like their women to look youthful and without any effects of aging, anyway.

YOUTHFUL appearance is a major factor in attraction for many straight people - as it seems to denote health & fertility. Old men go after girls young enough LOOKING to be their granddaughters. GOLD DIGGING girls use their youth to entice older men. Its NOT pedophilia, though. Not if the girl is 18+.

And such goes on EVERY DAY in straight circles.

And as such, it also goes on ALL THE TIME in gay circles, too. But guys have some weird PARANOIA about the whole subject or phenomenon. I think because they've so often - for decades -feared being lumped into those hate categories which call everyone a pedo, etc.

But its 2012. There is too much understanding of factors which make for pedophilia. And they are not at all synonymous with homosexuality.

And just to be really simplistic, you seem more concerned about the issue than would even be the government. I mean, let's just say some 40 year-old man was SEEN galavanting around (sexually) with some "youth" who LOOKED to be 15 or 16. And let's say the (big, burly, sexually-curious) cops followed that couple to their sleazy motel room. And let's say those cops peeped in through an opening in the window curtains to see the older man wolfing down on the "kid's" cock. And let's say the cops then thought it WISE to bust in on them (sure the man is a PEDO).

But the moment that the "kid" shows the cops he is actually 18 (let alone maybe 20), the cops, well, smile, and LEAVE. They might even get their department and the town sued for wrongful entry.

But the point would be that even the COPS wouldn't care so long as the smooth, baby-cheeked guy they perceived to be a boy was actually of legal age.

So I have to ask why YOU care more than the cops or the entire legal system would?

 

[SilverWolf]

Chickenguy I don't understand how you can say JUB allows guys who look underage to be posted, when you can always report the post and let the mods handle it.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

Funny thread.

No, I am not into twinks - in most situations. I'm not into many guys that are of twinkish variety. When I see a "so and so just turned 18, so it's okay for me to shoot cum on his pictures now!" thread in the celeb forum, most of my reaction is slowly shaking my head. And, add to that, that most twink on twink porn bores me to tears, and I deal accordingly by not giving them my money or time in viewing. Now. Throw a daddy in there and i'm ready with lube. Yet, i'd never fuck my own father(the very thought makes me want to sew my ass shut with my dickhead sewn inside so I could never have sex again). The paradox is not lost on me. I have no desire for actual incest but i'll watch an incest porn or two; most of them aren't real - i've only seen a couple that are.

I don't find it creepy to look at guys that are legal age but look younger - in CERTAIN situations(there are things that take it way too far, like the whole diaper and pacifier fetish... that's absolutely whacked out in my opinion), mainly because it would seem like people don't care about a 35 year old that still gets carded for looking younger than 21, but 18 seems to be that magic number where you "need to look like a MAN" or it's considered too creepy to exist on the interwebs or otherwise. We have QUITE A FEW members on here that fit the bill of being of legal age but looking like teenagers(without trying, btw, so any allusion to an existing member with the diaper story shouldn't be called upon), and to date, all those few guys have gotten are praise. A couple when they post get whole pages dedicated to them. Of course this doesn't even go into the shw yourself off section, which I skip because the overwhelming majority are of guys that "just turned 18/19" or "straight/bi-curious, just want your opinions". Hardly anyone my age or older posts their pics in there; hardly any of the established members i'd like to see do either.

I find it creepy for someone to use that as an excuse to pursue guys under the legal age of consent. That's wrong.

TL ; DR version: Long as its' legal I don't give two flying 747-filled fucks, so long as you don't expect me to watch it with you and you're not using it to actually pursue guys under the legal age.

 

[pat grimshaw]

...Of course this doesn't even go into the shw yourself off section, which I skip because the overwhelming majority are of guys that "just turned 18/19" or "straight/bi-curious, just want your opinions". Hardly anyone my age or older posts their pics in there; hardly any of the established members i'd like to see do either...

I so agree!
There's lots of guys in Hot Topics that I'd like to see with their pants down in the show yourself off section.

 

[G-Lexington]

For one thing I'm only talking about what is sold in porn pics not what you do in your private life, and for another you're 21 and so there isn't really a big age gap there. As I said before I'd probably feel much the same way were I that age again. Were I completely convinced that ALL and EVERY person getting off on said pics were your age or younger, I dare say I'd have less of a problem with it. Regrettably that isn't the case.

OK, let's change the age to 18. An 18-year-old who looks 18. And a 21-year-old gets off on it. You're assumedly cool with it. Now a 50-year-old gets off on it. Still OK with it? Because now he's of legal age, and looks like he's of legal age. So it's all good, right?

...my guess is, for you, it isn't.

Lex

 

[pat grimshaw]

But they're not actually showing 16 year olds. …

The porn companies claim they don't employ kids under 18. But I don't believe too many claims from an industry which sells fantasy.

 

[Telstra]

I learned a lesson. Complaining about others on here will bite you in the ass.
And there are too many issues popping up you won't be able to handle it.

 

[Cafe69]

The porn companies claim they don't employ kids under 18. But I don't believe too many claims from an industry which sells fantasy.

Example: Cobra Video.

 

[altlover85]

Personally, if I don't like an image, I simply move on.

If the issue for you CG, is the sexualization of actual 15 or 16 year olds, I ask you this question, do you think that the promotion of these barely legal boys, would actually make someone go after someone underage? Why would they need to do this if there exist people out there who do look like they are 15 and 16, but aren't and instead are legal? Unless someone is a pedophile, I'm pretty sure that he or she could find young looking people of ages and would seek that out as opposed to going to jail.

If this younger looking porn isn't making guys go out and have sex with actual underage people, then why is it an issue? As long as no one is getting hurt, I really don't see the issue.

 

[SilverWolf]

Now now, we must be considerate here! It certainly hurts CG because he has to click a few more times to find the "right" kind of porn to jack off to.

Those few clicks can be agony if you are viewing the porn section on a phone in the bathroom and you only have 2 minutes of privacy

 

[Telstra]

That Jake Hamilton looks like he's 13-14. Seeing guys like that on J.U.B admittedly creeps me out, I don't care if he's 18.

Talking about in public places like shopping malls, crowded streets .. etc,
seeing young kids creep you out? That is creepy by it self.

 

[hungkee]

One thing I notice - because its glaringly obvious - in this thread is that it seems to be the guys most offended who seem to look at the most of this barely legal stuff. I mean, so many of you know the names of all the models and who their bfs might be. The amount of specific detail tells me that many of you MAY be simply struggling with your own worries or guilt feelings.

Because I would suspect that men only jerking off to 18+ or not into it at all don't even know the name of one model in most instances.

 

[zoltanspawn]

Barely-legal porn promotes pedophilia like bondage porn promotes kidnapping.

Lex

Some adults merely enjoy fantasies about fucking young people and raping children. I'm sure we could even say the vast majority of people who enjoy fantasies about kids and young teenagers falls into this category.

I don't know if it's really, fully clear that such fantasies do not promote pedophilia. For a minority, I suspect that pornography that appears to be about children may play a sustaining and encouraging role in actual abuse. I find this worrisome.