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French Presidential Election : I need to move to another country...

belamy said:
Et qui a dit le contraire, gros pied marron ;) ?
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"Pied Noir", please...:rolleyes: ;)

I only said that you should know how is France and how do their people´s minds work... They elected Chirac with is joke about the "fracture sociale": TWICE!.
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Well... ok for the first time : he got the voices with a big lie (elected for his ideas from the left, and then extreme right politics...). The second time was just because he had a nazi against him... the new one IS the nazi...:(

They kicked and therefore deeply upset... no... pissed a man (Jospin) who was willing to actually do things for the country: TWICE! ...
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Yes... poor old thing... he was so boring but so efficient... not enough PR... we miss him now... :(

so you are willing to leave France, even for a shitty country which happens to be in a brilliant period like Spain, and then you write that... :rolleyes:
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Thank you, Europa ! We can travel anywhere !... even to countries being in a brilliant period... :D

Please, if you are considering walking the path of involution in the history of your family by emigrating to Spain, it´s not me who you should accuser of not knowing anything about France and/or Spain.
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My family is fine, thanks ! :rolleyes: ... Maybe YOU don't know enough this hideous character they voted for (not my family : the others old angry french people...), and that's why you say that. Some people compare him to Bonaparte or Hitler... he scares a lot of people... really... he's addicted to control and power, violent by his words (we'll see about his acts), has got the reputation of being a sad little traitor... he's been invested as a Minister of State for 5 years now (and in France, that means something), and did nothing good...

I definitely prefered our old dumby giant with all his money scandals : totally unefficient in his job, but at least we knew what we had as a "leader"... and thanks to God, he did ONE good thing in his life : he said NO to Dumber about Irak...
 
trebs said:
AH! Pour ça, cependant, je dois absolument recommandé le Québec! Depuis environ 15 ans nous produisons parmi les meilleurs fromages du monde(mon tour de taille s'en ressens, malheureusement) et importons les meilleurs vins de tous les pays du monde (et en produisons quelques uns tout de même agréables mais qu'on ne peut se procurer que directement du producteur...

Ah! For that, though, I absolutely have to recommend Québec! For approximately the last 15 years we've been producing some of the world's best cheeses (I have the gut to prove it, sadly) and importing the best wines from all over the world (and do produce some good ones you can only get from the producer, though...
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Je ne sais pas si les meilleurs fromages canadiens peuvent se comparer aux fromages français... Ils sont certainement très bons, mais sentent-ils aussi bon qu'ici ?... :D

I don't know if the best canadian cheeses can be compared to french cheeses... they are certainly very good... but do they smell as good as they do here ?... lol !
 
coco2006 said:
(...)Maybe YOU don't know enough this hideous character they voted for (not my family : the others old angry french people...), and that's why you say that. Some people compare him to Bonaparte or Hitler... he scares a lot of people... really... he's addicted to control and power, violent by his words (we'll see about his acts), has got the reputation of being a sad little traitor... he's been invested as a Minister of State for 5 years now (and in France, that means something), and did nothing good...

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I know perfectly well the sort of arriviste racaille that Sarko is, and that´s exactly why he has all the chances of being elected: that´s how you get to power in that demagogic system called democracy (the good of democracy, Western democracy, that is, doesn´t lie in the "greatness" of a stupid having the right to vote, but in the fact that its system allows that nonsense without being destroyed).

Besides, France has succeeded in a way similar to the Austrian with the German to make their neighbour appear to the eyes of the world as the monster of their own defects.

France is the most classist country in the world, but what they make others believe is that they are the "classiest", and use the monarchic appearance of Britain to make them appear as some sort of anachronic feudal state, while Britain is the closest thing you can be to the USA without actually being the USA, a country that learnt how to be itself with the lessons taken from the British.

France is also a more racist and male chauvinist country than their "revolutionary tradition" and the 200-day a year strike activities may make you think: the fact that they are revolutionary "by tradition" and that they are always on strike is a proof of how it has essentially remained the same aristocratic mandarinate under the appearance of democracy and republicanism because they didn´t fundamentally change anything... heck, they are always giving pervy sidelong glances at the Spanish Bourbons (I said Bourbons, not Bourbon :rolleyes: ), and the truly Jacobin ones are always pissed that the French state honours more the monarchic than the republican tradition of France.

All of which doesn´t mean I would object having born a French :mrgreen: For all its "defects", France is, along with Britain and the USA, and maybe Germany too, the only Western nation with solid achievements and truly deserving the adjective "great": "great" nations are those who make both the worst and the best things AND CAN SURVIVE TO BOTH OF THEM.
 
coco2006 said:
Je ne sais pas si les meilleurs fromages canadiens peuvent se comparer aux fromages français... Ils sont certainement très bons, mais sentent-ils aussi bon qu'ici ?... :D

I don't know if the best canadian cheeses can be compared to french cheeses... they are certainly very good... but do they smell as good as they do here ?... lol !
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Oh! T'inquiètes, certains des meilleurs puent presque autant que les meilleurs fromages corses et d'autres rappellent la finesse des meilleurs "lait cru" hexagonaux...

Sans vouloir faire de controverse, les producteurs québécois ont appris de leurs cousins français et certains ont dépassé le maitre: imagine le lait des meilleures vaches ou chèvres québécoises qui broutent la superbe campagne que nous avons. Nous avons de plus en plus de pâturages biologiques et produisent du lait hors pairs! On gagne de plus en plus de médailles même chez vous, chers Cousins!


Oh! Don't worry, some of the best stink almost as much as some of the best corsican chesses and, others, have the finesse of the best "lait crus" from the Hexagon...

Without wanting to start a controversy, Quebec producers have learned from their French cousins and some have surpassed them: imagine the milk from our best cows or goats grazing through our incomparable countryside. More and more of our pastures are certified organic and produce phenomenal milk! We win more and more medals even in France, dear cousin!
 
what are you all worried about anyway...in another 5 years or so the muslims will overthrow your elected government and install an islamic state. then you'll have something to bitch about...

you should be grateful. your right-wing lunatics in france are considred left-wingers here...you'd all lose your minds if true conservative lunatics like our republicans were elected over there.
 
belamy said:
I know perfectly well the sort of arriviste racaille that Sarko is, and that´s exactly why he has all the chances of being elected: that´s how you get to power in that demagogic system called democracy (the good of democracy, Western democracy, that is, doesn´t lie in the "greatness" of a stupid having the right to vote, but in the fact that its system allows that nonsense without being destroyed).

Besides, France has succeeded in a way similar to the Austrian with the German to make their neighbour appear to the eyes of the world as the monster of their own defects.

France is the most classist country in the world, but what they make others believe is that they are the "classiest", and use the monarchic appearance of Britain to make them appear as some sort of anachronic feudal state, while Britain is the closest thing you can be to the USA without actually being the USA, a country that learnt how to be itself with the lessons taken from the British.

France is also a more racist and male chauvinist country than their "revolutionary tradition" and the 200-day a year strike activities may make you think: the fact that they are revolutionary "by tradition" and that they are always on strike is a proof of how it has essentially remained the same aristocratic mandarinate under the appearance of democracy and republicanism because they didn´t fundamentally change anything... heck, they are always giving pervy sidelong glances at the Spanish Bourbons (I said Bourbons, not Bourbon :rolleyes: ), and the truly Jacobin ones are always pissed that the French state honours more the monarchic than the republican tradition of France.

All of which doesn´t mean I would object having born a French :mrgreen: For all its "defects", France is, along with Britain and the USA, and maybe Germany too, the only Western nation with solid achievements and truly deserving the adjective "great": "great" nations are those who make both the worst and the best things AND CAN SURVIVE TO BOTH OF THEM.
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Amen, hermano mio !.... ite missa est !... :didisay:
 
trebs said:
Oh! T'inquiètes, certains des meilleurs puent presque autant que les meilleurs fromages corses et d'autres rappellent la finesse des meilleurs "lait cru" hexagonaux...

Sans vouloir faire de controverse, les producteurs québécois ont appris de leurs cousins français et certains ont dépassé le maitre: imagine le lait des meilleures vaches ou chèvres québécoises qui broutent la superbe campagne que nous avons. Nous avons de plus en plus de pâturages biologiques et produisent du lait hors pairs! On gagne de plus en plus de médailles même chez vous, chers Cousins!


Oh! Don't worry, some of the best stink almost as much as some of the best corsican chesses and, others, have the finesse of the best "lait crus" from the Hexagon...

Without wanting to start a controversy, Quebec producers have learned from their French cousins and some have surpassed them: imagine the milk from our best cows or goats grazing through our incomparable countryside. More and more of our pastures are certified organic and produce phenomenal milk! We win more and more medals even in France, dear cousin!
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Il va falloir que je me renseigne... ce n'est pas avec les trois fromages espagnols et les quatre italiens que je vais varier les plaisirs... :badgrin:
 
coco2006 said:
Il va falloir que je me renseigne... ce n'est pas avec les trois fromages espagnols et les quatre italiens que je vais varier les plaisirs... :badgrin:
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T'y connais rien aux fromages espagnols, on le voit bien :mrgreen:
 
james1200 said:
what are you all worried about anyway...in another 5 years or so the muslims will overthrow your elected government and install an islamic state. then you'll have something to bitch about...

you should be grateful. your right-wing lunatics in france are considred left-wingers here...you'd all lose your minds if true conservative lunatics like our republicans were elected over there.
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Thanks James... I like how you relativize things.... well, I guess you would have voted for de Villiers, then, lol !!!!...

You're right, but the little slutty bitch is a big fan of GWB's... I'm scared, really... we're not yet prepared for a new fascist regim (the last one was in the 40s...)
 
Jory said:
Sorry about your problem we have are own problems here but hopefully by January 20, 2008 it will be as it should be
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Jory, I wish it were that soon. The election of a new president and vice president (if that is what you were referring to) will be held on the first Tuesday in November, 2008. The newly elected president will move into the White House on or about January 20, 2009.
 
je m'applle james. voulez vous couchez avec moi, ce soir?

and who says i can't speak french?
 
 
I read the following article a few days ago. I wonder if our French friends here agree with the Liberal (Left-Wing) American assessment.

Sarko, Ségo, or Bayrou?What you need to know about the French elections.
By Amanda Watson-Boles
Posted Friday, April 13, 2007, at 4:50 PM ET

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Segolene Royal

France is about to enter a new era. With 74-year-old President Jacques Chirac—the last of Charles de Gaulle's protégés—retiring after 12 years in office, a new generation is set to take over. The first round of voting, on April 22, will be a three-way tussle involving Socialist Ségolène Royal, conservative former Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, and moderate François Bayrou. (Far-right candidate Jean-Marie Le Pen is currently polling at about 15 percent.)

Eight other candidates—including Communists Olivier Besancenout and Marie-George Buffet, Green Dominique Voynet, and anti-globalization activist José Bové—will join the four front-runners in Round 1. If no candidate gets 50 percent or more, the top two vote-getters will advance to Round 2 in May.

More than ever before, this campaign is long on style and short on substance. All three main candidates have attempted to boost their popularity with puffy, best-selling manifestos. Bayrou hawked Project of Hope, which is almost exactly like that other book, except Bayrou is not black, not American, and not running for president … of the United States. Royal wrote Now, while Sarkozy laid out his personal and political agenda in Together.

Sarkozy has also taken advantage of his country's current—and très American—obsession with its politicians' love lives by publishing Testimony, which details, among other topics, his stormy relationship with his unfaithful wife, Cécilia. (Testimony is the only one of the main candidates' books available in English.) A few romans à clef delving into the Sarkozys' marriage have also become best sellers in France.

Meanwhile, rumors are flying that Royal has broken with her longtime love (but not hubby), Socialist Party Secretary General François Hollande. Since she has already been plagued by some laughable gaffes—such as seeming to call for Quebec's independence and believing the Taliban still rule Afghanistan—more personal revelations can only reinforce the media's perception that Royal is not a "serious" candidate.

This election cycle, French voters seem to be turning to the Internet in greater numbers. You can find YouTube videos full of "macaca" moments à la française. Smart blogs, including one written by the smoldering grandson of former Prime Minister Pierre Mendès-France, cleverly call out the candidates' faux pas, while this silly time-waster makes an animated Sarkozy disco on your command.

French musicians are jumping in as well, joining together in a sort of "Rap the Vote" initiative designed to increase political involvement among France's disaffected youth. The effort seems to be working: Voter registration is up in depressed areas most affected by last year's violent riots, double the national average.

But beyond the campaign fluff of best sellers, blogs, and blunders, something deeper is happening in French politics.

Every night, Les Guignols de l'Info (picture The Daily Show performed by puppets) lampoons the increasingly polarized and vicious tone of the election and the fact that politicians are playing nonstop to voters' baser instincts.

contd. here...
http://www.slate.com/id/2164175/pagenum/2/
 
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