Gay Republicans Are Self-Loathing And Don't Care About Gay Rights

[hungrybrownbear]

^its not exactly life or death.

 

[DiamondSkin]

^its not exactly life or death.

It's not life or death.

It's about human equality which the country was founded upon.

I'm sure your ancestors who fought for civil rights clearly had same mindset during the civil rights movement.

After all it wasn't life or death.

Clearly you don't care about gay rights and write it off which just confirms my theory.

I just think that there are way more important issues facing this country than whether or not Jack can marry Joe.

No issue should be more 'important' than equality for gay citizens including YOU, ya self-loathing....

Who in the world said that we should just focus on lower taxes and keep gay rights at the back of the bus?

 

[DiamondSkin]

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1. Rights? Oh, about thousands or so that straight married couples enjoy.

2. I thought the American way was "Life, Love And The Pursuit of Happiness".
And how about "All Men Are Created Equal"?

Clearly hungrybrownbear and darkcap2008 just prove that gay Republicans don't care about gay rights and are apathetic about it.

Nothing should be more 'important' than equality for gay citizens.

How could anyone rank on the same scale as taxes and property rights?

It's human rights. It should be at the top of every gay person's political agenda.

I'm VERY passionate about the bad economy. But it doesn't mean I throw gay rights to the back of the bus and focus on unemployment.

It continues to remain at the top of my priorities as with every other major issue that I hold to, regardless of the political climate or what's happening the world.

 

[Telstra]

^its not exactly life or death.

American government is big enough to deal with not life or death issues as well.

 

[Semirhage666]

Give me a f*cking break!

I've voted for more than one Democrat in the past who stabbed me in the back, breaking every promise he/she made to the gay community, promises that had "won" my vote.

Clinton, with DADT. My two US Senators from WA (at the time) who later supported DOMA.

They got my vote 'cuz they were on "my" side, then threw gays under the bus.

A lot like Obama, our "fierce advocate", and the progress he's implemented so far.

Ok, but what do you think McCain would have done for us? Nothing more than and probably less than Obama.

Even if the Dem candidate doesn't do THAT much for gay issues, it's the lesser of two fucking evils and that should be obvious to anyone with more than half a brain.

I find the first post in this thread to be right on the money.

 

[hungrybrownbear]

Clearly hungrybrownbear and darkcap2008 just prove that gay Republicans don't care about gay rights and are apathetic about it.

Nothing should be more 'important' than equality for gay citizens.

How could anyone rank on the same scale as taxes and property rights?

It's human rights. It should be at the top of every gay person's political agenda.

I'm VERY passionate about the bad economy. But it doesn't mean I throw gay rights to the back of the bus and focus on unemployment.

It continues to remain at the top of my priorities as with every other major issue that I hold to, regardless of the political climate or what's happening the world.

I was just stating that it wasn't life or death (because it isn't), not that I don't care about it.

Good God, I've never encountered anyone so judgmental and bigoted in my life. You call for open-mindedness but in a real sense, its you who can't accept other peoples opinions when they give them. There is only ONE correct way a gay should behave himself, and you apparently decide that. Just because my priorities and my political socialization are different than the stereotypical gay male, I must be self loathing, and I must not care about gay rights.

You should learn a little bit from the philosopher Voltaire.

 

[Joshua_me]

He probably knows you love him anyway.

Oh, well THAT would be a comfort.

Honestly, what a horseshit thing to say. I hope you never find yourself in that position, it happens a lot more than you probably know.

 

[DiamondSkin]

I was just stating that it wasn't life or death (because it isn't), not that I don't care about it.

Except as Elvin1 stated, when your spouse or boyfriend has been hit by a car and you lack the medical rights a heterosexual couple would have.

You would know that if you were in a relationship with someone.

Good God, I've never encountered anyone so judgmental and bigoted in my life. You call for open-mindedness but in a real sense, its you who can't accept other peoples opinions when they give them. There is only ONE correct way a gay should behave himself, and you apparently decide that.

There is one acceptable way a gay person should act irregardless of their political party, nationality, race or gender:

1) They should give a damn about gay rights.

2) They shouldn't vote for politicians with anti-gay agendas.

I could give a hoo-haa about anything else.

You should learn a little bit from the philosopher Voltaire.

I've read him and like most philosophers they use too much verbiage to get to the bloody point.

 

[DiamondSkin]

Very narrow minded of you. When your country is in the toilet and flat broke, what good is a marriage certificate?

How in the world are gay rights and conservative fiscal policy at opposite points of the spectrum?

Are you seriously saying if you vote for a gay-friendly politician you automatically vote for a politician who will spend into oblivion?

And you think it's okay to vote for a politician who has a fierce anti-gay agenda as long as he likes lower taxes.

You ever think, I don't know, that you could vote for a politician that's gay-friendly AND fiscal conservative....

You know BOTH. Very narrow-minded of you.

THERE are more important things going on that you can not seem to comprehend.

Nothing is more 'important' than human equality.

This isn't a barter-trade system. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Gay rights should ALWAYS be important regardless of political climate and current events...

You have EVERY right that any one else has except marriage. Bashing gays with a different point of view will not help your cause.

Gays can't adopt. That's one right.

Gays can be fired for being gay. That's another.

Gays can be discriminated for housing. That's three.

Gays can be denied insurance benefits. That's four.

There's tons of others.

Thank you come again....

You are fighting your battle backwards.

You're running in bloody circles...

 

[DiamondSkin]

It's so hard to find a liberal that's not upset about something.

It's hard to find a conservative who's not trying deny rights to some minority cause Jesus said so...

My God, liberals are even upset when they do win. You guys won. You have it all and you're still complaining.

What on Earth are you talking about?

We just lost Maine.

Where have you been?

 

[DiamondSkin]

Just because my priorities and my political socialization are different than the stereotypical gay male, I must be self loathing, and I must not care about gay rights.

You stated the phrase 'stereotypical gay male'.

This infers to me that you may have some....misgivings about the gay community.

Perhaps you don't care about gay rights and don't feel gay as other gays because you don't like gay people?

 

[hungrybrownbear]

^A prime example of what I mean. You read into my posts and then judge me on your own personal standards of what you THINK I'm talking about. Infer all you want, its a fact that most gays are liberal and democrats. Did I say that was bad? No. Did I say I don't like them? No. I'm merely saying its not a crime to have different opinions.
Oh whoops, I must be a homophobe now.


I mean just look at the title. What do you want, all Republicans to disappear? You want everyone to agree with you? Because here you are telling people what they SHOULD and SHOULDN'T do, who died and made you our leader?

Oh wait that sounds a bit like, erm, Leninism, fascism, nationalism...

If you actually read Voltaire you would know what I am referring to, actually, people that haven't read Voltaire should know what I am referring to. It is a basis of the American Constitution.

 

[DiamondSkin]

@DimondSkin

Just because my priorities and my political socialization are different than the stereotypical gay male, I must be self loathing, and I must not care about gay rights.

Again, this infers to me that you have misgivings about the gay community.

Anyone who has ever uttered the phrase 'stereotypical gay man' has always had some sort of self-loathing about being gay. They don't really consider themselves a part of the gay community and feel apart from them even though they're gay themselves.

I mean just look at the title. What do you want, all Republicans to disappear? You want everyone to agree with you? Because here you are telling people what they SHOULD and SHOULDN'T do, who died and made you our leader?

Morgan Freeman did.

In all seriousness, I would hope that gay persons (yes, you too) would have the self-respect and self-esteem to keep gay rights at the top of their priorities regardless of the political climate or political inclination.

It's about YOUR right as an INDIVIDUAL.

As of now, you are a second-class citizen.

If you care about taxes and healthcare in a conservative manner, fine whatever.

But to say, it's more 'important' than YOUR own rights as a gay person and an individual just speaks of lack of self-respect.

Nothing is more important than your rights as an individual in America. That's what makes you an American citizen.

 

[hungrybrownbear]

Again, this infers to me that you have misgivings about the gay community.

Anyone who has ever uttered the phrase 'stereotypical gay man' has always had some sort of self-loathing about being gay. They don't really consider themselves a part of the gay community and feel apart from them even though they're gay themselves.



Morgan Freeman did.

In all seriousness, I would hope that gay persons (yes, you too) would have the self-respect and self-esteem to keep gay rights at the top of their priorities regardless of the political climate or political inclination.

It's about YOUR right as an INDIVIDUAL.

As of now, you are a second-class citizen.

If you care about taxes and healthcare in a conservative manner, fine whatever.

But to say, it's more 'important' than YOUR own rights as a gay person and an individual just speaks of lack of self-respect.

Nothing is more important than your rights as an individual in America. That's what makes you an American citizen.

I edited my post.

 

[DiamondSkin]

^A prime example of what I mean. You read into my posts and then judge me on your own personal standards of what you THINK I'm talking about.

I'm reading into what you post and what you write.

I don't see you denying it and you post below just seems to support what I say.

Infer all you want, its a fact that most gays are democrats. Did I say that was bad? No. Did I say I don't like them? No. I'm merely saying its not a crime to have different opinions.

Most gays are Democrats for the same reason most African-Americans are.

It's kinda hard to be Republican when they're always launching some sort of anti-gay Proposition every damn month.

 

[nolanthomas]

Give me a f*cking break!

I've voted for more than one Democrat in the past who stabbed me in the back, breaking every promise he/she made to the gay community, promises that had "won" my vote.

Clinton, with DADT. My two US Senators from WA (at the time) who later supported DOMA.

They got my vote 'cuz they were on "my" side, then threw gays under the bus.

A lot like Obama, our "fierce advocate", and the progress he's implemented so far.

I don't know, If you ask me, I think NineOfClubs makes some valid points here.

What's worse, those who out right deny you your rights or those who say they support gay issues and then do nothing?

Maybe we just need more openly proud gays in politics, who are willing to address all the issues, in both parties, instead of always trying to insult each other!

 

[DiamondSkin]

They're worried about the far left turning America into Cuba....but they're not worried about the far right burning them at stake for the Bibical crime of homosexuality?

Talk about priorities...

Who said that gay rights and fiscal conservatism were mutually exclusive. You can only have one not the other?

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

I'm a gay man who supports the Republicans because they fight for me and most middle class people in other ways. Such as keeping big government out of our lives, keeping our taxes low, not trying to take away our freedoms and liberties, destroy our health care system, they're not trying to take my money away from me and giving it to someone doesn't want to work or do anything.

are you high?

Republicans have always legislated our private lives. They want to tell us who we can marry, many of them would love to stop inter-racial marriages, they passed laws that allow you to by spied on by your own government, they want to arrest gay people for having sex in the privacy of their own homes.

Republicans don't keep your taxes low. All those Tea Party freaks are all protesting how they're "Taxed Enough Already" and none of them have noticed that under Obama their taxes haven't gone up and many of them have done DOWN.

TAke away our freedoms? How about my right to marry my husband? How about the right to have him as my next of kin? Maybe a woman's right to her own body? How about he right for a rape victim to charge her rapist? Because Republicans are against that.

Destroy health care? Are you nuts? The Republican plan is to allow insurance companies to screw you over every chance they get.

And take your money and give it away to people who don't work? Um... the Blue States are he ones who pay more than their fair share because the Red States don't pull their own weight.

Be conservative all you want, but don't be an idiot.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Oh please. As if.

To say that gay republicans "hate" gays is a stretch.

Um.. no. No it's not. It's "accurate."