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Gaydar point system

Lube

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"Nobody knows I'm gay": we hear this from closeted guys all the time.

But after they come out, we often hear "I was surprised that [x person] knew". we think we're so good at acting straight, but we give away a million clues.

I thought I'd put down some of my personal gaydar points that I sort of mentally tally as I get to know someone. Contrary to what some may think, I don't feel that one thing alone makes someone gay; rather it's more like a system of points. Evidently other people (knowingly or not) do the same thing, since often friends or relatives "always knew", they are essentially doing the same thing. :). I'd love to hear other people's point systems.

I am not posting this in order to out people. I'm posting this so closeted guys can realize that we're never as good at hiding it as we think: we give off clues all the time. It's probably a lot subtler than you think.

Obviously, these clues apply to mainstream, middle class America. I hope some of them make you smile. :)

Has more female friends than male friends: + 20
Drives a European car, Subaru, or Saturn: +20
Drives a convertible:+50
Drives a convertible European car, Subaru, or Saturn:+150 ;)
Names his car: +30
Talks about sports: -20
Talks way too much about sports to the exclusion of smalltalk: +20
Has a team t-shirt: -30
Has a team t-shirt with a player's name on it: 0
Has a complete set of team decorated bobble heads and a ceramic village in team colors: +50
Does not talk about private life at work: +50
Has a "girlfriend in Canada" (e.g., out of town): +30
Never talks about his wife, but constantly talks about how wonderful his kids are:+10
Has photos in his cubicle of him and his kids and wife: -30
Has same photo, but no wife (and is married): +100
Can dance and prance like the hot stud in the military video remake of lady GaGa's song "Telephone": +100
Adores Lady GaGa: +50
Plays video games or reads comic books to the exclusion of dating women: +10
Knows more about most movies than the local paper's movie reviewer: +25
Orders syrupy sweet drinks at the bar: +20
Orders foreign beer or hand-crafted local beers at the bar:+20
Gets into a heated discussion about the best local hand-crafted beer: +30
Is easily offended: +50
Tells his out gay friends "no one knows I'm gay at work":+20
Believes it:+60
When directly asked if he is gay, answers "I don't believe in labels": +1,000
 
is sexually attracted to other men: +∞
everything else: +whatever

not that i didnt find your list amusing. maybe its in the wrong sub-forum, though.
 
Wow, that's very detailed :=D:

I liked this one:
When directly asked if he is gay, answers "I don't believe in labels": +1,000

Wondering, how many points he earns if he answers "Indeed I am" ? :-)
edit: hmm, +∞ sounds a good answer
 
is sexually attracted to other men: +∞
everything else: +whatever

not that i didnt find your list amusing. maybe its in the wrong sub-forum, though.

Not really; as I said in the original post:
I'm posting this so closeted guys can realize that we're never as good at hiding it as we think: we give off clues all the time.
It's the perfect forum. The humor is just a side benefit. :)
 
hot: +200 .. cause every hottie must be gay .. right?
 
-Into making lists +100
 
Funny.

The only thing that really applies to me is that I don't talk about my private life at work. Soooo...... what?

Starts Dildo threads on JUB: +200 :mrgreen:
 
I get a zero.

When directly asked if he is gay, answers "I don't believe in labels": +1,000

If you say you don't do labels, you're also saying you're not straight. I don't think that's being in the closet. OH BUT NO STRAIGHT GUY WOULD SAY THAT!!!! Right, that's the point.

I put up Gore Vidal as my profile pic yesterday and how timely. He said something along the lines of "There are no homosexuals, just homosexual acts." He said his first and only love in life was a friend from high school who died in WWII. He slept with lots of men and lived with a man for decades until he died (albeit no sex was involved). He doesn't do labels either.

So he must be some bitter old closet case? Not quite. He wrote the first novel that explicitly portrayed a same-sex relationship, in 1948. Forty years ago, when professional opinion portrayed homosexuality as some disease ([ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AXAOT_swIE"]see Youtube video[/ame]), he was speaking against such repressed sexual ethics (see same video).
 
You're right, Lube, about how easy it is to detect closeted guys. I mean I've met guys that are like "dude, I'm totally DL and no one should know and ever know" then they talk just as much if not more flamboyant than the gay scene boys out at the clubs! Even if they're undetectable, their eyes give it away. It's human instinct. We hunt and we know when we find prey...
 
>>>seems like every straight guy I know only owns ratty old white sneakers.

I do. Which makes it +100.

You left off the two biggest ones, though.

* is friends with you +500
* you wonder if he's gay +5000

Lex
 
>>>I didn't get ANY points...

Oops - missed one.

* Claiming you scored less than 250 on this: +1000

Lex
 
plucks his eyebrows +30
is a JUBBER +50
Yeah, I love the "I'm a straight guy with questions" posts. I just wanna give 'em a (*8*)
hot: +200 .. cause every hottie must be gay .. right?
unfortunately not. :(
-Into making lists +100
Totally. Like those "5 reasons I don't think I'm gay" threads. ;-)
What about cheerleading?
+∞ Good one.
I get a zero.
"There are no homosexuals, just homosexual acts."
"I'm not like *them*". Denial. You don't have to get 1,000 points to be gay. We *are* all different and everyone will get a unique score. But the more points you get, the more likely you are. And it's not a comprehensive list. There are tons of other clues. This is just the beginning. :)

And I don't understand that quote at all.
 
I thought your list was amusing, even if others didn't. Contrary to what most guys think in these forums, I think you can tell whether a guy is gay if you work with him for long enough. I'd say if you spend a few months together, chatting and getting to know the guy you'll get a good idea of his sexuality in 90% of cases.

To add to your list :P ... (all jokes obviously)

- A hot woman walks past the lunch table. The guys all stare and comment.
- He comments too -20
- He stays silent but looks -10
- He changes the topic +10
- He stays silent and looks at you +20

- He texts you ...
- His texts are short and oversimplified, and his answers trite -30
- His texts have tons of smilies and are detailed and emotive +30

Someone mentions gays ...
- He's unaffected or indifferent -20
- He's ominously quiet and distracted +10
- He's furious and murderous +30

He's not overweight but talks about losing weight +50
He dresses too well even for a metrosexual +30

;)
Add those to the list. Love them--I wish I wrote that!
You're right, Lube, about how easy it is to detect closeted guys. I mean I've met guys that are like "dude, I'm totally DL and no one should know and ever know" then they talk just as much if not more flamboyant than the gay scene boys out at the clubs! Even if they're undetectable, their eyes give it away. It's human instinct. We hunt and we know when we find prey...
I think back to when I was in denial and gay guys caught me checking them out then glancing away. Oh, the eye rolls I must've induced! LOL. I was so pathetic. *sigh*
You left off the two biggest ones, though.

* is friends with you +500
* you wonder if he's gay +5000

Lex
How right you are (even though my facetiousness detector is on 100 ;) ). There was a Harvard study very recently showing a correlation between Facebook friends and whether you were gay.
I didn't get ANY points... :(

And I'm not even in the closet... :lol:

Interesting observations though...

:):):)
Well that's sorta the point, Swerve--it's all about closeted (and in-denial) men. If you've never been in that mindset, you might not be able to see the clues so easily.
* Claiming you scored less than 250 on this: +1000

Lex
+∞
 
Just saw South Pacific live on stage. It was so funny watching a dozen obviously gay guys sing "Nothing Like a Dame".

I don't care how buff they are or how deep their voices are.

Oh, and if your facebook page says you're into unicycling and acrobatics? +50. It seems to me that gays and lesbians like to be different and unique.

Does your Facebook profile photo show only half your face, or is photoshopped artistically? +40.

You have a web site ostensibly about you & your wife, but it's really all about (you and) your kids? +5000 that you're a closet case.
 
Has a really goofy pasted-on smile all the time +10

tries hard to suppress laughs or giggles about obscure gay memes +30

doesn't know the original use for leather chaps, leading to strange conversations +40

spends more than 20 seconds expressing opinion about Lady Gaga or Adam Lambert +15

overly eager to pick the gay option in video games +50

moves head a lot when talking +15

never comments about girls in commercials but notices things about guys nobody else does +15

owns a sex toy +0

owns a phallic sex toy +80

owns a vagina sex toy -60
 
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