News flash: It's possible tpo be ideologically conservative and not be Republican. In point of fact, to define oneself as ideologically conservative it is pretty much mandatory NOT to identify as Republican these days, as the party has demonstrated time and again that it only pays lip service to even what it defines as conservative values whilst doing the exact opposite. Also, the Republican party has totally lost sight of what it means to be classically conservative, i.e., small government and fiscal independence. They will use the language, but every single thing they actually do and advocate demonstrates opposite, unless it functions with regards to who the party defines as its tribal enemies.
Similarly, one can be ideologically liberal and not be democrat. Again, the party has lost sight of what that term means thanks to some bizarre troibal crystallisation of those notions within American culture. Believe it or not, one can function politically and ideologically outside of the moronically polar proscriptions of pervasive cultural preconception: One does not haveto automatically define as "liberal" or "conservative;" one can merely be CONSIDERED, in essence, define one's politics based on a technical, nuts and bolts appraisal of WHAT IS REQUIRED. This is what politics should be for: maintaining the flow and function of society, maintaining the freedom and dignity of those of which society is comprised. All else is frippery and nonsense.
The notion that you are even surprised that a U.S. "conservative" group rejects homosexuals even when they are in ideological agreement is laughable, utterly laughable given how entrenched homophobica has become in what your culture defines as ideologically "conservative" (even when it clearly isn't). Newsflash: the (post) modern, self defined "conservatives" of America are, for all intents and purpose, tribal lunatics; they have demonstrated time and again the proclivity to throw some of their most rabid supporters under the bus (or sacrifice them on the altar) when it suits their agendas. As for "small government," yeah; small government for us and our financialy interests, MASSIVE, invasive, bed-room dwelling, sex obsessed, privacy-corroding government when it comes to those we've defined as our tribal enemies.
From the outside, the U.S. comes off as culturaly schizophrenic. The out and out lunatics, anti-intellectuals, tribal demagogues and hypocritical charlatans the Republicans in particular allow to speak for them would be out of work in a heartbeat here in the U.K. if they dared spout one breath of the nonsense they seem to on a daily basis, regardless of what political party they represented. Those of you who define yourselves as conservative, and I mean GENUINELY conservative, rather than the tribal, hypocritical nonsense that the term is currently saddled with, need to stand the fuck up and stop these lunatics speaking on your behalf, unless you want U.S. conservatism to become synonymous with lunacy, idiocy and obstinate self destruction.
Similarly, one can be ideologically liberal and not be democrat. Again, the party has lost sight of what that term means thanks to some bizarre troibal crystallisation of those notions within American culture. Believe it or not, one can function politically and ideologically outside of the moronically polar proscriptions of pervasive cultural preconception: One does not haveto automatically define as "liberal" or "conservative;" one can merely be CONSIDERED, in essence, define one's politics based on a technical, nuts and bolts appraisal of WHAT IS REQUIRED. This is what politics should be for: maintaining the flow and function of society, maintaining the freedom and dignity of those of which society is comprised. All else is frippery and nonsense.
The notion that you are even surprised that a U.S. "conservative" group rejects homosexuals even when they are in ideological agreement is laughable, utterly laughable given how entrenched homophobica has become in what your culture defines as ideologically "conservative" (even when it clearly isn't). Newsflash: the (post) modern, self defined "conservatives" of America are, for all intents and purpose, tribal lunatics; they have demonstrated time and again the proclivity to throw some of their most rabid supporters under the bus (or sacrifice them on the altar) when it suits their agendas. As for "small government," yeah; small government for us and our financialy interests, MASSIVE, invasive, bed-room dwelling, sex obsessed, privacy-corroding government when it comes to those we've defined as our tribal enemies.
From the outside, the U.S. comes off as culturaly schizophrenic. The out and out lunatics, anti-intellectuals, tribal demagogues and hypocritical charlatans the Republicans in particular allow to speak for them would be out of work in a heartbeat here in the U.K. if they dared spout one breath of the nonsense they seem to on a daily basis, regardless of what political party they represented. Those of you who define yourselves as conservative, and I mean GENUINELY conservative, rather than the tribal, hypocritical nonsense that the term is currently saddled with, need to stand the fuck up and stop these lunatics speaking on your behalf, unless you want U.S. conservatism to become synonymous with lunacy, idiocy and obstinate self destruction.
