How many sexual partners have you had?

[Gentleheart]

I'm just going to go ahead and tell y'all (and no disrespect to you, eastofeden)...if you are going to try to win a debate/conversation, etc. against eastofeden about promiscuity...it won't work.

Just sayin'. Stop before you frustrate yourselves any further.

 

[Latimer]

38 years old.
Two long term relationships: the first, beginning when I was 22, lasted for about a year; the second, which has continued for fourteen years, began when both my partner and I were 24. Neither relationship would have lasted more than a few months if they had not been "open" ones, and included a fair amount of outside fucking.
Sexual partners?
I can't be sure, but...
16+ years or so of recreational sex (22 to present): 80 partners, with some repeats
10+ years (19 to 29+++) of professional sex: 200 partners with many repeats

 

[eastofeden]

I'm just going to go ahead and tell y'all (and no disrespect to you, eastofeden)...if you are going to try to win a debate/conversation, etc. against eastofeden about promiscuity...it won't work.

Just sayin'. Stop before you frustrate yourselves any further.

Well...shit...now you made me laugh...damnit....

I guess I should say one thing that I don't think I have ever said here before and I will not defend it for reasons of my own...and I most likely will never repeat it ....I think AIDS was intentionally introduced and nothing is ever going to change my mind about it.

So...the usual arguments against promiscuity and the usual slut shaming are just going to piss me off....forever...

 

[borg69unimatrix]

Well...shit...now you made me laugh...damnit....

I guess I should say one thing that I don't think I have ever said here before and I will not defend it for reasons of my own...and I most likely will never repeat it ....I think AIDS was intentionally introduced and nothing is ever going to change my mind about it.

So...the usual arguments against promiscuity and the usual slut shaming are just going to piss me off....forever...

I agree with you. I think the virus was man made. It's too clever and adaptable to be natural.

 

[bankside]

Well...shit...now you made me laugh...damnit....

I guess I should say one thing that I don't think I have ever said here before and I will not defend it for reasons of my own...and I most likely will never repeat it ....I think AIDS was intentionally introduced and nothing is ever going to change my mind about it.

So...the usual arguments against promiscuity and the usual slut shaming are just going to piss me off....forever...

I agree with you. I think the virus was man made. It's too clever and adaptable to be natural.

I think that's right out there and I can't imagine a greater tragedy for public health than the unfounded assumptions behind this belief, first of which being the complete fantasy that anyone in the 1980s was more clever than a couple of billion years of evolution.

gentleheart i see what you mean but I think sometimes the point of a conversation is to inform other people even if the point is lost on the person being replied to.

 

[ElmosToe]

^agreed, EOE, Borg.

From what I have learned, there is also a cure.
That's as far as I will go in discussing this as my view and opinion of HIV/AIDS is definitely in the minority.


How did this veer into a debate over monogamy?
Damn proud to be a slut at this time in my life. My dick gets hard too frequently and wants to do too many things (and people) to be monogamous yet.

 

[eastofeden]

I think that's right out there and I can't imagine a greater tragedy for public health than the unfounded assumptions behind this belief, first of which being the complete fantasy that anyone in the 1980s was more clever than a couple of billion years of evolution.

gentleheart i see what you mean but I think sometimes the point of a conversation is to inform other people even if the point is lost on the person being replied to.

Aw...gee...my opinion is now the greatest tragedy for public health...glad you figured out THAT was the problem

...and I am going to prove gentleheart wrong here...just this once...and let what I have already said stand. I have said everything I want to say...you may continue if you like "informing" the rest of them

 

[xbuzzerx]

How did this veer into a debate over monogamy?

Although my post didn't have that intention, my answer to this question would be: because the term slut shaming came up a dozen times in loose association with people who don't have huge numbers.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

I think that's right out there and I can't imagine a greater tragedy for public health than the unfounded assumptions behind this belief, first of which being the complete fantasy that anyone in the 1980s was more clever than a couple of billion years of evolution.

gentleheart i see what you mean but I think sometimes the point of a conversation is to inform other people even if the point is lost on the person being replied to.

Why is it so "out there"? The US, China, USSR ... have all been cooking up biological warfare virus' in secret labs for decades. That one got out, accidentally or intentionally isn't hard to believe. Do you really believe it came from fucking or eating monkeys?

 

[eastofeden]

Although my post didn't have that intention, my answer to this question would be: because the term slut shaming came up a dozen times in loose association with people who don't have huge numbers.

I don't really think you ever practice slut shaming and I don't think that people who practice monogamy with low numbers are in any way deficient. One of my favorite guys on here....ibill1...I LOVE his story. He was monogamous and with one guy from the beginning and I have nothing but respect for him and the life he led.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Agreed!



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I actually disagree. People buy acts all the time. You're not just paying for a cooked product, in this case a hamburger - you're paying others to grow and harvest your tiny bit of grain, tomatoes, onion, whatever, then there's the staff - the fry cook for cooking your fries, the dishwasher for cleaning your tray, the cashier whose also the janitorial staff that makes sure you're not stepping in piss. You're paying for acts whenever you buy something - it's common sense. People don't cater to others for free. In that vein, I see nothing wrong with consenting adults making their own transactions.

Damn, almost forgot the original Q - Age 30, #Low 20's

 

[luckynumbah7]

Dammit, pretend the bit in quotations was the guy Bankside responded to. Ugh, going to bed now, way past time.

 

[Alnitak]

Yeah...and alot of men and women got it from an unfaithful partner.

Are you intimating that someone whom has had one hundred partners experiences the same risk as someone whom has had one?

 

[eastofeden]

Are you intimating that someone whom has had one hundred partners experiences the same risk as someone whom has had one?

If the one partner has exposed their partner to AIDS due to infidelity the risk might even be greater as he/she will repeatedly infect the partner.

You do know that pretty much everyone promises to be faithful ....and...well....uh...that doesn't really work out so well for millions and millions of us.

I find honesty infinitely more valuable

 

[youngnihilist]

I think its odd when people with dozens or hundreds of random fucks assume someone else is missing out because they only have one or two guys in their history. I found someone who makes me horny, who still makes me horny after 16 years, and we have good fun sex a lot. We've also built a life together. I like that. I get that it's not important to everyone but I shake my head when this idea gets floated that somehow a guy's sex life is limited or not enjoyable or religiously constipated or whatever. You have noooo idea. I wouldn't be a better person if I started fucking hundreds of strangers. The only difference would be I'm trying something else to have a happy life, and I'd be at much greater risk of getting a disease and giving it to someone else.

It's whatever works for the person. If you fuck hundreds of strangers it can be an enlightening experience. It can also be great to share monogamy with one person for decades. It all depends.

There are pros and cons to both. There are "monogamous" people who are unhealthy and there are hundreds/thousands sleepers who are unhealthy. And both that are healthy. I think being with the same person for life is great if it's truly a working relationship... I think sleepign with 3000 men by the age of 60 like one person here is amazing too. 3000 different men to explore, experience, connect with...

 

[blackbeltninja]

Do you really believe it came from[STRIKE] fucking or [/STRIKE]eating monkeys?

Yes. I think it is a combination of that, and natural evolution as viruses mutate and become able to infect across different species.

Why is it so "out there"? The US, China, USSR ... have all been cooking up biological warfare virus' in secret labs for decades. That one got out, accidentally or intentionally isn't hard to believe.

I stand to be corrected here, but I don't think we knew enough about viruses back then when AIDS was first described to the public to have engineered something that good. I also don't think we were technically proficient enough to actually build one, even if someone had managed to design the virus.

-d-

 

[JohnnyAnger]

I don't think we have to have an open relationship to be happy, but we should really be open to the fact that people will sleep around. This does not mean they do not love you any more, it just meant they needed a release somewhere else - which can be upsetting of course, but we are humans and these things can happen.

I am not saying everyone does cheat, but if you demand monogamy from your partner you will never be told if/when he does go with someone else and it will hurt loads more. There has been research done on cheating and how it happens most among cultures that stigmatize open relationships (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-anderson-phd/cheating_b_1528890.html)
Me and my partner have both slept with other people during the course of our relationship, but we were upfront about it and its fine.

 

[borg69unimatrix]

Yes. I think it is a combination of that, and natural evolution as viruses mutate and become able to infect across different species.


I stand to be corrected here, but I don't think we knew enough about viruses back then when AIDS was first described to the public to have engineered something that good. I also don't think we were technically proficient enough to actually build one, even if someone had managed to design the virus.

-d-

No one intended to make Silly Putty, either.

 

[ibill1]

I do not ascribe to the idea that people's behavior over great swaths of time or a large period of their adult life do not indicate, in some manner, their desires or the way that they enjoy going about pursuing certain goals. Recognizing that and saying "the way they do those things is bad and immoral" is not the same thing. Likewise I don't assume that somebody who has gone on out of town trips every single weekend for the last 10 years "really" likes to be a homebody and have quiet dinners and watch TV. There's nothing wrong with that person being an active avid traveler, but we might be incompatible as far as what we want.

You shouldn't assume, you never know. My job requires me to go out of town every week for 3 or 4 days at a time unless I am on vacation. It has for 37 yrs. For 34 of those years my most treasured times were exactly that, quiet dinners at home with him watching TV and holding him in my arms. I might have just spent 2 or 3 days in Rome, Barcelona, Hawaii, etc., and had a great time, but I always couldn't wait to get home and hold him in my arms once again. See, you never know what is in a guys heart until you explore.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Although my post didn't have that intention, my answer to this question would be: because the term slut shaming came up a dozen times in loose association with people who don't have huge numbers.

Being one of those people, I would like to explain why I said. There are people who have a "nice" way of doing it on here and it bothers me. I am not way a "slut" but I just don't understand the problem with it and I do believe it isn't just because of the disease reasons that a lot of people give. I do think people carry a moral judgment over others who just don't do relations with other the same as they do.

In general talking about any kind of relationships on here bothers me because it is usually spoken by people who never experience or do such things speaking about other people as if they know how they feel and what they like.