Is wrong for parents to assume their child is heterosexual?

[Sha-Rok]

By saying heterosexuality is more "natural" people are just making them believe that homosexuality isn't.

Both are natural occurrences but based on the odds your more likely to have a heterosexual child than a homosexual child. Even if you account for the closet case's there are more heterosexuals in our species. So it is not wrong to assume your child will be in the majority as opposed to the minority..this is simple shit.

 

[boxerdudeuk]

Yes, this is by far the most important part. But you also forget that this kid will live in a homophobic world, regardless of your love for him. Being straight is easier when you live in a straight world, that's all I mean. I'd like to have a non-color-blind kid - not because I wouldn't love him and support him, but because not being color-blind is easier than being color-blind.

i agree with you 100%. well said.

 

[Ryuusei Boy]

Ok, I think being gay is more difficult than being straight, but that's just me. And that's all I'm trying to say, really.

 

[Ryuusei Boy]

I just believe that the best thing a parent can do is hope their kids are happy no matter what.

Well, yes, it all comes down to that

 

[Ryuusei Boy]

Well, according to The Free Dictionary:

Normal: Conforming with, adhering to, or constituting a norm, standard, pattern, level, or type; typical

I'd say being straight is pretty normal Not that being gay is not... but being straight is much more normal, lol.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

attempts? to raise children

1800 to 2010 choose country attempts to raise (children<Not ma word ) tos what ( Adults?<not ma word> end product a word?

amazing selection of countrys manage do 1 thing is increase populations of course always with da nice help of da 'planet'

raise<still a word amazing selctions of countrys no idea and now raise ' Children what is children < this sentence of course ans obvious as is so much in world so not real needs a say> not included millions of children caught up in very not children things and not survive ta double digits

So children here baby what we do with it? say da playschool person
ans little children go say



to empty space

oh well

Hoe eternal

think it Hope dude!

oh thanks kind of ya

it KOOL!

 

[saymyname]

This debate is a perfect example of everything that's wrong with the gay community.

So because something is easier, we should automatically embrace that and perpetuate it? Elvin is right and you guys need to look at the root of problems instead of addressing the symptoms supposing they are the cause. It's pathetic and seriously shameful.

You know you're losing an argument when you have a closet case on your side. I suppose black people should choose to be white, if given the choice, because it's easier, right? So much for pride.

 

[saymyname]

The main reason it's easier is because we live in a heterosexist society, so perpetuating those conditions certainly doesn't seem like the best way of dealing with it. It'd be better to have just a leeeettle awareness of the possibilities.

Once again, well said. Why does everyone ignore the most blatant and well said statements?

 

[LoveIsNow]

You know you're losing an argument when you have a closet case on your side.

Quoted for truth and the smile it gave me.

Anyhow, you can't just tell your child their whole life that they're going to grow up to be some princess whose prince is going to come and carry her off, when there's a good chance she will want to be carried off by another princess. That's just like telling your child that they're going to grow up to be a star athlete, though they may find they want to be a scientist or an artist. (Come on; there's a million movies that tell you not to do that, and it's really much the same.)

Someone said they don't want to lay the cards on the table in terms of sexuality, when that's exactly what you should do. A simple "most people are attracted to people of the opposite sex, but some aren't; you won't know until you're older who you're attracted to, but no matter what we still love you and it's okay," is not going to sway them one way or the other, but won't give them the impression that they'll be letting you down if they turn out not to be a certain way.

I have nothing against assimilating into (and helping to reinvent) heterosexual society, but we shouldn't become it and make its mistakes.

 

[fetaby]

Not to get your panties in a bunch is a harmless phrase. Do you think calling someone a faggot or uncle tom is similar?



I was under the assumption that this was someone interjecting themselves in a conversation among two other people.

If it was intended to be harmless why did you say panties and not boxers or briefs? Aren't boxers and briefs what is assumed by the majority of people what MEN wear? Or were you trying to emasculate that poster?

Name calling is name calling to answer your question.

----------------------------------------------------

I've been reading the thread and I have to say that arguments of normalcy and natural hold no weight.

Cars aren't natural, and the pollution they create isn't a "normal" part of nature. But we have 'em.
Tell me a skyscraper is normal to nature.

What's rude is the suicide rate of gay youth.

Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning youth are up to four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers, according to the Massachusetts 2006 Youth Risk Survey.

http://gaylife.about.com/od/gayteens/a/gaysuicide.htm

So while your kid may be one of the 95% who is heterosexual, your increasing their risk of suicide by 400% if they aren't and you assume they are.

Cause honestly, this is what's happening right now. Say it isn't.

 

[BINOWGAYLATER]

Where the fuck is Chaz Bono when you need [STRIKE]him[/STRIKE] -- [STRIKE]her[/STRIKE] --- ummm him -- yeah - that ..

 

[saymyname]

LoveIsNow and fetaby took the words out of my mouth. Great posts, both of you.

 

[Ryuusei Boy]

Oh, well. JUB has been mostly nice and tolerant about my closet-ness, I'm not letting one angry, disrespectful person make me think otherwise. But that has nothing to do with the thread anyway.

 

[saymyname]

Oh, well. JUB has been mostly nice and tolerant about my closet-ness, I'm not letting one angry, disrespectful person make me think otherwise. But that has nothing to do with the thread anyway.

Yes it does. You never, ever cease to defend heterosexism because you yourself perpetuate it and take advantage of it.

 

[Ryuusei Boy]

I said right from the beginning (second post actually, lol) that assuming a kid is straight is stupid, but that's how it is and it's not changing.

 

[saymyname]

I said right from the beginning (second post actually, lol) that assuming a kid is straight is stupid, but that's how it is and it's not changing.

Well, no thanks to you, or people with your attitudes.

 

[MMMonsterBoy]

Of course it isn't wrong, just a little foolish. For some parents, it isn't even plausible for their child to be homosexual. The idea literally does not enter their mind. Some parents just know, and even through their denial just assume their child will be heterosexual. Perhaps it really is just human error based on society. Heterosexuals are in the majority. From day one, mainstream television/movies pretty much highlight hetero relations. Mainstream music from men will say lust after females, and vice versa. So maybe it is no wonder why people automatically assume everyone they encounter is straight. So pretty much more people should open up their minds and realize 'ah, perhaps not everyone is like me?'

 

[bulge]

Because being straight is normal. So is being right-handed. Nothing wrong with being gay or lefthanded though.

Who did tell you str8 is normal? This is the most stupid idea I ever heard.

 

[bulge]

Yes, this is by far the most important part. But you also forget that this kid will live in a homophobic world, regardless of your love for him. Being straight is easier when you live in a straight world, that's all I mean. I'd like to have a non-color-blind kid - not because I wouldn't love him and support him, but because not being color-blind is easier than being color-blind.

That's the way to concoct the most unhappy life ever for 50% of your children.

 

[bulge]

Both are natural occurrences but based on the odds your more likely to have a heterosexual child than a homosexual child. Even if you account for the closet case's there are more heterosexuals in our species. So it is not wrong to assume your child will be in the majority as opposed to the minority..this is simple shit.

Where have you seen "... more likely..."? Where have you seen "... the minority..."?