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On Topic Discussion Monkeypox Outbreak
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Re: Monkeypox in London
^ He made an interesting comment about vaccination. Is there a specific monkeypox vaccine in development, or is the US using the smallpox vaccine which has been around for some time?
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/monkeypox-outbreak-vaccination-strategy
^ He made an interesting comment about vaccination. Is there a specific monkeypox vaccine in development, or is the US using the smallpox vaccine which has been around for some time?
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/monkeypox-outbreak-vaccination-strategy
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There is a monkeypox vaccine that is approved (Jynneos) but because monkeypox hasn't been an issue in western countries until 2022, there's a limited stockpile of it. And... because Murphy has those laws... the manufacturing facilities that would normally produce Jynneos are off-line for repairs, so it will be some time before there's an adequate supply of Jynneos to administer to high-risk groups.
There are also some newer technology vaccines (e.g. mRNA) which are in development but just like the COVID-19 vaccines, they would need to go through clinical trials before they cna be approved for the larger population.
In the US, NYC did obtain a supply of monkeypox vaccine to offer MSM... just in time for Pride and the summers on Fire Island/Provincetown that bring in millions of tourists.
Will There Be Enough Monkeypox Vaccine? [NY Times]
There is a monkeypox vaccine that is approved (Jynneos) but because monkeypox hasn't been an issue in western countries until 2022, there's a limited stockpile of it. And... because Murphy has those laws... the manufacturing facilities that would normally produce Jynneos are off-line for repairs, so it will be some time before there's an adequate supply of Jynneos to administer to high-risk groups.
There are also some newer technology vaccines (e.g. mRNA) which are in development but just like the COVID-19 vaccines, they would need to go through clinical trials before they cna be approved for the larger population.
In the US, NYC did obtain a supply of monkeypox vaccine to offer MSM... just in time for Pride and the summers on Fire Island/Provincetown that bring in millions of tourists.
Will There Be Enough Monkeypox Vaccine? [NY Times]
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Re: Monkeypox in London
They already ARE saying it. Not yet in English perhaps, but as usual, Persian and Arabic lead the way. Urdu won't be far behind.
They already ARE saying it. Not yet in English perhaps, but as usual, Persian and Arabic lead the way. Urdu won't be far behind.
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That may certainly be true for people growing up in extreme poverty in the poorest parts of war-torn countries in Africa.
But I think they were referring to people who lead what those Africans would consider a life of privilege, with public education, public housing projects, and perhaps even something approaching health-care, with a bare-knuckles public pension system in old age as well. Countries like Venezuela, the USA, or Russia.
That may certainly be true for people growing up in extreme poverty in the poorest parts of war-torn countries in Africa.
But I think they were referring to people who lead what those Africans would consider a life of privilege, with public education, public housing projects, and perhaps even something approaching health-care, with a bare-knuckles public pension system in old age as well. Countries like Venezuela, the USA, or Russia.
Re: Monkeypox in London
An update on the vaccination position in London:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62244435
What I don't quite get is the statement that eligible people (by which I assume they mean gay and bisexual men) should wait to be contacted. The NHS knows who's over-60 or whatever when it comes to Covid-19 vaccinations, but there's no central register of gay and bisexual men as far as I'm aware.
An update on the vaccination position in London:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62244435
What I don't quite get is the statement that eligible people (by which I assume they mean gay and bisexual men) should wait to be contacted. The NHS knows who's over-60 or whatever when it comes to Covid-19 vaccinations, but there's no central register of gay and bisexual men as far as I'm aware.
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A hunch? They're going to vaccinated immunocompromised and HIV+ people first since they are the group most at risk.
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You're probably right, although immunocompromised and HIV+ people on the one hand and gay and bisexual men on the other are not entirely the same thing.
You're probably right, although immunocompromised and HIV+ people on the one hand and gay and bisexual men on the other are not entirely the same thing.
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I took a look at one of the NHS websites and they were more specific.
In population health, we have registries of patients with certain conditions that we can pull into list for campaigns. My guess is that patients who are male, HIV+, on HIV meds, on immunosuppressive meds or who have had a recent STI diagnosis wouldn't be a hard report to put together.
I took a look at one of the NHS websites and they were more specific.
In population health, we have registries of patients with certain conditions that we can pull into list for campaigns. My guess is that patients who are male, HIV+, on HIV meds, on immunosuppressive meds or who have had a recent STI diagnosis wouldn't be a hard report to put together.
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That makes complete sense. They're not likely to be the sort of men who are spreading the virus though. How do we reach them with the vaccine?
That makes complete sense. They're not likely to be the sort of men who are spreading the virus though. How do we reach them with the vaccine?
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Re: Monkeypox in London
Ahhh Viruses.
always there to re-emerge at any time.
and of course while the religious right will be wanting to imbue infections with moral weight...biology will quickly make short shrift and eventually, when MP makes its way around the blonde, hetero-inclined set, then it will be recognized as a real public health threat...
fortunately for all... doesn't seem as though this one will fill the morgues...so it will just be relegated to libertines' dirty secret.
Oh wait. I see it has appeared among the children?
Now the world will wake up.
Ahhh Viruses.
always there to re-emerge at any time.
and of course while the religious right will be wanting to imbue infections with moral weight...biology will quickly make short shrift and eventually, when MP makes its way around the blonde, hetero-inclined set, then it will be recognized as a real public health threat...
fortunately for all... doesn't seem as though this one will fill the morgues...so it will just be relegated to libertines' dirty secret.
Oh wait. I see it has appeared among the children?
Now the world will wake up.
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Re: Monkeypox in London
Now [strike]the world[/strike] QAnon will wake up.
Hillary is somehow connected, no doubt.
Now [strike]the world[/strike] QAnon will wake up.
Hillary is somehow connected, no doubt.
Re: Monkeypox in London
You mean on the news... because they are, literally, common as shit-.
You mean on the news... because they are, literally, common as shit-.
Re: Monkeypox in London
The US has now taken the lead in monkeypox numbers:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62308455
The US has now taken the lead in monkeypox numbers:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62308455
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#1 again.
We've switched from giving people vaccines after they had possible exposures to now offering it to anyone in a high risk group.
Now... if there were only enough vaccine...
#1 again.
We've switched from giving people vaccines after they had possible exposures to now offering it to anyone in a high risk group.
Now... if there were only enough vaccine...
Re: Monkeypox in London
The other day I made a comment on a prestigious Spanish news brief about Americans undoubtedly going to name this "Spanish pox"
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Since,as of July 31, the US stands now at the top of that classification
The other day I made a comment on a prestigious Spanish news brief about Americans undoubtedly going to name this "Spanish pox"
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Since,as of July 31, the US stands now at the top of that classification
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Blame it on the Bossa Nova.
I think we're going to see reported cases for July put the US back in the lead because of the Pride celebrations in June. Several people in my social circle (all under age 40) returned from trips to Pride celebrations with a case of monkeypox. It's 3-4 weeks of pretty miserable existence.
There's a mad scramble going on to get the limited number of monkeypox vaccines that are available in the US.
Blame it on the Bossa Nova.
I think we're going to see reported cases for July put the US back in the lead because of the Pride celebrations in June. Several people in my social circle (all under age 40) returned from trips to Pride celebrations with a case of monkeypox. It's 3-4 weeks of pretty miserable existence.
There's a mad scramble going on to get the limited number of monkeypox vaccines that are available in the US.
Re: Monkeypox cases as per July 27th 2022
if you break it down to the number of citizens in each country - Spain has 8 times more cases per 100k inhabitants than the US...
Re: Monkeypox cases as per July 27th 2022
Exactly: like when covid started and it was nothing in America, just some Asian or European thing, and it would disappear like a miracle; the cases of "the US" are mainly today those in SF and NYC, which has declared public health emergency, unlike anywhere in Spain (Madrid or Barcelona, their equivalent, to which you might be more right to compare, instead of pitting a 9M km2 "country" of wide deserted plains against a 0.5M km2 nation of one single deserted plain).
Like with covid-19, the US is a bigger pond that would need more time and exposure for cases to start really showing up.
Exactly: like when covid started and it was nothing in America, just some Asian or European thing, and it would disappear like a miracle; the cases of "the US" are mainly today those in SF and NYC, which has declared public health emergency, unlike anywhere in Spain (Madrid or Barcelona, their equivalent, to which you might be more right to compare, instead of pitting a 9M km2 "country" of wide deserted plains against a 0.5M km2 nation of one single deserted plain).
Like with covid-19, the US is a bigger pond that would need more time and exposure for cases to start really showing up.
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