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On Topic Discussion Monkeypox Outbreak

Re: Monkeypox in London

nycguydowntown said:
You [STRIKE]can't[/STRIKE] are not likley to get it from a hand shake or breathing on someone
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More accurate that way. You know how news and "normal" people like to focus on and cling to those 0.01% cases.
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

Peloso said:
then the joke's on them.
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It will be on US when the ChristFascists start putting US in their concentration camps for Jesus.

Der Trumpenführer is already calling for putting homeless people in "tent cities" out in the desert, otherwise called camps. All his "America First" ChristoFascists applauded that.
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

cityboy-stl said:
It will be on US when the ChristFascists start putting US in their concentration camps for Jesus.

Der Trumpenführer is already calling for putting homeless people in "tent cities" out in the desert, otherwise called camps. All his "America First" ChristoFascists applauded that.
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I don't dispute that.

Kansas proves that voting still counts.

If anyone knows anyone between 18 and 25, get them to vote. Don't just tell them to vote, they won't. Find out what causes are important to them and explain it to them. Do this on facebook (or some other pit of banality) with bad grammar and spelling errors galore so they can understand it.
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

nycguydowntown said:
yup circuit parties was mentioned ---was actually a really informative show---METRO FOCUS---a PBS program in NYC. Also said disease needed a name change.
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These viruses - horsepox, cowpox, smallpox, monkeypox - were named before people really knew about viruses. The virus is so old that it is actually named "monkeypox virus"! They'll probably do genetic studies on it and figure out what it is now that it is affecting the "first world".

The virus will probably get an official genus/species name. I don't know what they're going to call it when people get infected with it. We might be stuck with "monkeypox" for a while.

It's perfectly timed- got established in the US men who have sex with men population just in time for Gay Pride celebrations. The estimate was that 2 million people were in NYC for Gay Pride. And there's Fire Island, Provincetown, Rehoboth, et al... Within a couple of weeks after Pride, it was showing up all over the US.


nycguydowntown said:
You can't get it from a hand shake or breathing on someone ---it's not an STD per se but gay men are getting it on their ass hole and cocks and mouths more then cases seen in Africa. Once the sores dry up it's not contagious anymore. It is Very very painful and you need pain medication--doc mentioned a nerve pain treatment .:##:
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It's a bit like the scarlet letter. The initial lesions are showing up where the skin to skin contact happened, so guys are showing up with it all around their mouths and in/around their anus.

I had someone describe it in the way that people describe shingles- a burning pain that hurts day and night. And like shingles, the pain is difficult to treat.

It's also taking about 3-4 weeks to clear up.


purina said:
As Monkeypox Spread in New York, 300,000 Vaccine Doses Sat in Denmark
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/nyregion/nyc-monkeypox-vaccine-doses-denmark.html
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Discussed back in post #43.

The 300,000 doses (which is only enough for 150,000 people) is the entire stockpile of the vaccine for the entire world. The plant that makes the monkey pox immunization is in Denmark, it's the only plant that made it and it was shut down for maintenance, so they weren't prepared to ramp up production to meet the demand.

We're not going to be able to vaccinate our way out of this on the short term. It's going to be here for a while.

The CDC did have a stockpile of a new antiviral drug that was developed to treat smallpox that they are sending out to people who end up hospitalized but supplies are limited.

One thing that I have noticed is that the US cases are really in the age 20-40 group. The over 40 age group were the ones who still received smallpox vaccines, so there may be some partial immunity at play with those who received vaccination as a child, although there's not enough evidence yet to know.
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

KaraBulut said:
Update on the US: now over 7,500 cases. Over 400 new cases are diagnosed every day. The current rate of infection is that cases double every 7 days.
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The US infection rate has slowed. As of last week, there were 11,174 cases.

States with most new cases in the past 2 weeks:
  1. California: +1,146
  2. New York: +950
  3. Florida: +712
  4. Georgia: +500
  5. Texas: +464
  6. Illinois: +352
  7. New Jersey: +175
  8. Pennsylvania: +173
  9. Maryland: +158
  10. Washington: +131
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

I was watching the game show 'Catch 21' the other day. One of the questions was about Jennifer Lopez and Mark Anthony. That gives you an idea of how old the tv show. On the same show, an answer for one of the questions was 'monkeypox'. So it was that far back when it was mentioned.

I didnt even know it was a thing back then

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Re: Monkeypox in London

m1thousand said:
I was watching the game show 'Catch 21' the other day. One of the questions was about Jennifer Lopez and Mark Anthony. That gives you an idea of how old the tv show. On the same show, an answer for one of the questions was 'monkeypox'. So it was that far back when it was mentioned.

I didnt even know it was a thing back then.
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A little googling tells me that the Monkeypox virus was first identified in 1958.
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

unloadonme said:
Seems that vaccinations in the UK are to be paused because of a lack of stock:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62551821
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In the US, the demand has been so high for vaccines that they're either delaying second doses or giving a smaller dose. The smaller dose is administered under the top layers of skin (intradermally instead of subcutaneous). By reducing the dose, they're able to give vaccine to 4 additional patients.
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

As of last Friday, the US had 15,906 total cases of monkeypox. That was an increase of 5,988 cases in one week.

New Cases: Top 10 States
  • New York - new cases: +724 - total cases: 3,019
  • California - new cases: +718 - total cases: 2,663
  • Florida - new cases: +553 - total cases: 1,638
  • Texas - new cases: +525 - total cases: 1,340
  • Georgia - new cases: +369 - total cases: 1,220
  • Illinois - new cases: +199 - total cases: 970
  • Maryland - new cases: +156 - total cases: 431
  • Pennsylvania - new cases: +145 - total cases: 443
  • New Jersey - new cases: +127 - total cases: 420
  • North Carolina - new cases: +123 - total cases: 261


One additional thing that we've discovered in the past month. After 9/11, the US stockpiled vaccines, including vaccines that would cover smallpox and monkeypox. In total, the US bought 20 million doses of the smallpox/monkeypox vaccine. Those vaccines expired during the Trump Administration and were not replaced.

Currently, with the intradermal injections of the monkeypox vaccine, we estimate that there is enough to vaccinate about 470,000 Americans. Hopefully, we will be getting more vaccine in the future - by 2023, HHS estimates there will be enough vaccine to administer to 3 million Americans.
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

I actually got a recorded message from my doctor's office today. This office has mostly gay patients and the doctors are gay or gay-friendly. They have the vaccine and are signing people up to come in and get it. You are supposed to fill out a risk assessment form online, and they will schedule you. I am not going to, though, since I am like zero risk. I have been six feet away from the rest of the world for the past 2 and a half years, and I still am. There are others who need this vaccine way more than I do at the moment.

One thing that scares the crap out of me is this - if monkeypox gets into wildlife or pets, we will never be rid of it.
What do you bet, every attempt to aggressively stamp out monkeypox with a proper vaccination campaign will be opposed by the far-reich morons, which will then let it happen?

A dog caught monkeypox from one of its owners [Phys.org]

A dog caught monkeypox from one of its owners, highlighting risk of the virus infecting pets and wild animals.

With monkeypox spreading in humans throughout the world, my colleagues and I have begun to worry about the increased risk of monkeypox spreading from humans to animals. If monkeypox spreads to wildlife species in the U.S. and Europe, the virus could become endemic in these places—where it has historically been absent—resulting in more frequent outbreaks. The report of the infected dog shows that there is a decent chance these fears could become a reality.
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Re: Monkeypox in London

cityboy-stl said:
I actually got a recorded message from my doctor's office today. This office has mostly gay patients and the doctors are gay or gay-friendly. They have the vaccine and are signing people up to come in and get it. You are supposed to fill out a risk assessment form online, and they will schedule you. I am not going to, though, since I am like zero risk. I have been six feet away from the rest of the world for the past 2 and a half years, and I still am. There are others who need this vaccine way more than I do at the moment.
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The demographics on the current cases skews heavily toward people who are under age 40 and had multiple sexual partners. It's also particularly hit people who are HIV+.


cityboy-stl said:
One thing that scares the crap out of me is this - if monkeypox gets into wildlife or pets, we will never be rid of it.
What do you bet, every attempt to aggressively stamp out monkeypox with a proper vaccination campaign will be opposed by the far-reich morons, which will then let it happen?
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These "pox" viruses have been around for millennia- in our cattle, horses and other animals that we are in contact with quite frequently.

Monkeypox is a terrible name for this particular virus because it gives the impression that this virus came from monkeys.

Monkeypox is an orthopoxvirus. This is a family of viruses, some of which may be the same virus that has mutated to have a preference for specific animals, which is why they were given those old names like cowpox, horsepox, buffalopox, rabbitpox, smallpox, monkeypox, etc.

The original smallpox vaccine came about because a physician noticed that milkmaids were contracting cowpox from cattle and afterward, they were less likely to contract smallpox. Cowpox in humans is mild but it produced enough immune response to create immunity to smallpox.

The smallpox vaccine that you likely received if you are over age 40 (it's the one that created a small scar on the upper arm), was actually a virus that is similar to horsepox. The vaccine that is being given for monkeypox - JYNNEOS - doesn't contain monkeypox. JYNNEOS contains weakened vaccinia, which is another orthopox virus. JYNNEOS was originally developed for smallpox vaccination.

Because the antibodies that we develop in response to smallpox vaccination also react with other orthopox viruses, we don't have to worry about monkeypox jumping species and infecting humans en masse. Humans have been getting exposed to those animinal orthopox viruses for millennial and with the exception of smallpox, they don't make healthy humans severely ill. I also suspect that we are going to determine that the problem we're having with monkeypox is connected to the cessation of smallpox vaccination in 1980.
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

I live in a large gay city in Florida and the health department has rolled out mobile units for mass vaccines - no appointment necessary - I got both my monkeypox and Meneghettis vaxxes yesterday - free - not even an insurance card was necessary - I go back in 2 weeks for a monkeypox booster
 
Re: Monkeypox in London

DepravedMuscleFTL said:
I live in a large gay city in Florida and the health department has rolled out mobile units for mass vaccines - no appointment necessary - I got both my monkeypox and Meneghettis vaxxes yesterday - free - not even an insurance card was necessary - I go back in 2 weeks for a monkeypox booster
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The unsung heroes in public health. They got treated like crap during the COVID-19 pandemic but they're still at work.
 
As of last Friday, the US had 21,891 total cases of monkeypox. That was an increase of 1,932 cases in one week.

US Weekly New Cases:
  • 13-Aug: +5,988
  • 20-Aug: +4,732
  • 27-Aug: +2,508
  • 03-Sep: +1,545
  • 10-Sep: +1,932

New Cases: Top 10 States
  • California - new cases: +467 - total cases:4,300
  • Florida - new cases: +202 - total cases:2,193
  • Texas - new cases: +199 - total cases:1,929
  • New York - new cases: +188 - total cases:3,591
  • Georgia - new cases: +112 - total cases:1,557
  • Pennsylvania - new cases: +59 - total cases:631
  • Illinois - new cases: +54 - total cases:1,141
  • Nevada - new cases: +50 - total cases:204
  • New Jersey - new cases: +49 - total cases:610
  • Arizona - new cases: +41 - total cases:374

US Weekly Cases By Age/Gender:
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US Weekly Cases By Ethnic Group:
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