Mueller Submits his Report.

[rareboy]

The deal has been cut for Mueller to appear before Congress though.

Hopefully he uses the opportunity to undo some of the tremendous damage that Barr has done.

 

[gsdx]

Barr made his choice to show the American people who he works for and it's Trump.

And we all know what happens to Trump's 'employees' who do the right thing.

 

[smokeshadow]

Now the DOJ is trying to censor Mr. Mueller prior to his upcoming testimony before Congress

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmoveme...f-highly-anticipated-congressional-testimony/

 

[rareboy]

^ His testimony is going to be a huge disappointment.

Mueller is going to go to every length to avoid opinion or to comment on the background of the report. They might as well just make him sit there and read it for all that they are going to get out of him.

If he is at all a great man, he will tell Congress that it is up to them to do their job and impeach.

But I think we've seen that he is not a great man.

He is just someone who will not do anything to endanger the GOP chances of getting a stranglehold on the government in 2020.

 

[eddielee]

I'm afraid I saw only the first half hour of the hearing, but Mueller did make it very clear that his report did not find the president innocent of obstruction of justice.

 

[rareboy]

Although the Republicans predictably just sat there and flung their shit at him from their enclosure, he made those two critical statements.

Trump could be charged with a crime when he leaves office and the report did not exonerate him.

 

[luckynumbah7]

I'm afraid I saw only the first half hour of the hearing, but Mueller did make it very clear that his report did not find the president innocent of obstruction of justice.

If anything, I thought he seemed confused that people weren't taking the report in a more literal manner.

 

[frankfrank]

He confirmed that there was Russian interference in the election, targeted for the election of Agent Orange. The Republican reaction?...CRICKETS.

If the DNC gave Russia even something as trivial as $1,600 or knowingly and enthusiastically accepted election interference from an ENEMY country, it would be all over the front page news and splashed in our faces for MONTHS. So, eat my shorts. Bite me.

 

[Sausy]

If there is a real enemy of the people, it is the GOP members of the House and Senate... other than a very rare pointed interest and concern taken by Rep William Hurd of Texas regarding the scope and gravity of the Russian involvement in the 2016 Presidential election and going forward (who yet still can't go all out and hold Trump to account here) there was NOTHING but pushback, lies and utter disrespect towards Robert Mueller by the Republican "questioners". We know where they stand. And it's not with us. I loathed the sight of that contemptible Trump accommodationist Devin Nunes... wanted to spit at the screen at a whole lot of them, him in particular for his reprehensible conduct and utter lack of seriousness.

 

[eddielee]

Now it's even more clear that President Trump is a crook who makes Richard Nixon look like Mother Teresa. President Nixon did have good qualities. I can think of no good qualities in our current President. I do not understand why so many people are deceived, but then again, consider the Nazis.

 

[eddielee]

If there is a real enemy of the people, it is the GOP members of the House and Senate... other than a very rare pointed interest taken by Rep William Hurd of Texas(who yet still can't go all out and hold Trump to account here) there was NOTHING but pushback, lies and utter disrespect towards Robert Mueller by the Republican "questioners". We know where they stand. And it's not with us.

It was very shameful to see they way Mueller was treated by some of the Republicans.

 

[Dystopian]

Take Home Message:
LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!

 

[Dystopian]

Now it's even more clear that President Trump is a crook who makes Richard Nixon look like Mother Teresa. President Nixon did have good qualities. I can think of no good qualities in our current President. I do not understand why so many people are deceived, but then again, consider the Nazis.

Great point about Nixon vs. him. Nixon opened the door to China. Dump is shutting it down, and our economy with it. And I think Nixon was in touch with reality and knew the difference between right and wrong, although he didn't always practice it. But then, Nixon was an adult.

 

[frankfrank]

^ And...REMEMBER who it was who enthusiastically signed the legislation that created the EPA. Yup.

Indeed, though he was vile, he also had some VERY good and redeeming qualities. THIS one is vile, without any redeeming qualities.

 

[Returnofbigchicken]

A lot of people had given up watching befuddled old Mueller and had gone to lunch when he walked back his previous statement, essentially admitting the whole report was a nothing burger...

"

“Now, before we go to questions, I want to add a correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller said Wednesday afternoon. “I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, ‘You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.’”


Mueller, who had agreed with Rep. Ted Lieu in the first hearing, said he now disagreed with that framing.

“That is not the correct way to say it,” Mueller said. “As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime.”

Source Link: Robert Mueller provides 'correction' to testimony about not charging Trump (Washington Examiner; July 24, 2019)

 

[rareboy]

Peddle backwards all you want.

He said they didn't clear Trump and that he could be indicted after leaving office.

The words of the report are clear.

 

[luckynumbah7]

A lot of people had given up watching befuddled old Mueller and had gone to lunch when he walked back his previous statement, essentially admitting the whole report was a nothing burger...

"“Now, before we go to questions, I want to add a correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller said Wednesday afternoon. “I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, ‘You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.’”


Mueller, who had agreed with Rep. Ted Lieu in the first hearing, said he now disagreed with that framing.

“That is not the correct way to say it,” Mueller said. “As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime.”

Ooooh, you tryin', aintcha. Geeze. it isn't Mueller's job to include advice stemming from personal belief, while it is his office's job to report. You are conflating the two.

Even so, I think his personal belief snuck in there anyway - he was quick enough to point out he believes (and he would know) that the president may be charged after leaving office even tho he cannot be charged while in it. He had little-to-no reason to make that statement, hanging out there on the tail-end of another questioning, all lonesome-like.

 

[luckynumbah7]

-Well, might be misremembering. I thought he pointed that out on the tail-end of another question but when I look online the clip involved the specific question being asked. Anyone know if that bit of information said more than once?

 

[opinterph]

[Mueller] was quick enough to point out he believes (and he would know) that the president may be charged after leaving office even tho he cannot be charged while in it. He had little-to-no reason to make that statement, hanging out there on the tail-end of another questioning, all lonesome-like.

-Well, might be misremembering. I thought he pointed that out on the tail-end of another question but when I look online the clip involved the specific question being asked. Anyone know if that bit of information said more than once?

I only find the one statement where Mueller indicated that the president could be charged after leaving office. It was at the end of a time segment allotted for questioning by Representative Ken Buck of Colorado.

BUCK:
OK but let me just stop, you made the decision on the Russian interference, you couldn't have indicted the president on that and you made the decision on that. But when it came to obstruction, you threw a bunch of stuff up against the wall to see what would stick, and that is fundamentally unfair.

MUELLER:
I would not agree to -- I would not agree to that characterization at all. What we did is provide to the attorney general in the form of a confidential memorandum our understanding of the case. Those cases that were brought, those cases that were declined and the -- that one case where the president cannot be charged with a crime.

BUCK:
OK, but the -- could you charge the president with a crime after he left office?

MUELLER:
Yes.

BUCK:
You believe that he committed -- you could charge the president of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office.

MUELLER:
Yes.

BUCK:
Ethically, under the ethical standards.

MUELLER:
Well I am -- I'm not certain because I haven't looked at the ethical standards, but the OLC opinion says that the prosecutor while he cannot bring a charge against a sitting president, nonetheless he continue the investigation to see if there are any other person to might be drawn into the conspiracy.

NADLER:
Time of the gentleman has expired. The gentleman from Rhode Island.

Full transcript: Mueller testimony before House Judiciary, Intelligence committees (NBC News; July 25, 2019)

 

[Returnofbigchicken]

Peddle backwards all you want.

He said they didn't clear Trump and that he could be indicted after leaving office.

The words of the report are clear.

By the time Trump leaves office in January 2025, and then president Pence is in office, no one will bother going after Trump.

With current far left candidates the Democrats are running, that's what will happen. Trump will never see a jail cell.