BostonPirate
Ijubbinatti
naa
I have the noassital syndrome
No matter how much I gain or lose, the ass remains the same size
isn't that a Led Zeppelin song?
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NO Henny Penny, there is no impending depression
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naa
I have the noassital syndrome
No matter how much I gain or lose, the ass remains the same size
isn't that a Led Zeppelin song?
^ If BP really has a nice ass, I want a shot at it. 
BostonPirate
Ijubbinatti
^ If BP really has a nice ass, I want a shot at it.
noooo
Nines, YOU are supposed to be the power bottom. Throw me down and ride me, buddy
ABuse me, call me names...
just ride the pony while you're doing it
noooo
Nines, YOU are supposed to be the power bottom. Throw me down and ride me, buddy
ABuse me, call me names...
just ride the pony while you're doing it
Really, it could go either way!
BostonPirate
Ijubbinatti
Really, it could go either way!
I can work with that
And with that I will go to bed and let the thread get back on topic.
Nite guys.
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A double-dip recession wouldn't surprise me in the least.
I suspect that the Republicans/RNC (in cahoots with other powerful players), in discussions carefully kept entirely secret from the media, are figuring out the most effective way to make sure the economy is still sick, or possibly even on life support, late next year.
The Republicans are a far better and more effective Propaganda Factory than are the Democrats**, and they always know how to assign blame to Democrats and make it stick, when things go sour. After all, they influence much of the TV media and have a near-total monopoly on talk radio.
[**Not that the Democrats don't spew propaganda also, but the Republicans are far better at baring their fangs and extending their talons while doing so.]
I suspect that the Republicans/RNC (in cahoots with other powerful players), in discussions carefully kept entirely secret from the media, are figuring out the most effective way to make sure the economy is still sick, or possibly even on life support, late next year.
The Republicans are a far better and more effective Propaganda Factory than are the Democrats**, and they always know how to assign blame to Democrats and make it stick, when things go sour. After all, they influence much of the TV media and have a near-total monopoly on talk radio.
[**Not that the Democrats don't spew propaganda also, but the Republicans are far better at baring their fangs and extending their talons while doing so.]
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Yep, we added 62,000 new jobs last month at McDonald's! You want fries with that recovery?
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/05/06/no-mcdonalds-did-not-affect-april-jobs-numbers/
JayHawk
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^^ Jack that is exactly what i was thinking as i have at least four relatives or close friends in this shitty job market. Real jobs just arent really out there from my perspective.
But again i dont know nothing bout no E-CON-O-MEE.
I just know I can see suffering when it is is occurring in my own pocket and around me at shopping venues. Prices at the pump and cost of food. A freakin avocado cost 5$ a pound???? that is trash fruit from cali...i mean it literally litters the streets.... amazing.
anywho...have fun at work ya'll
But again i dont know nothing bout no E-CON-O-MEE.
I just know I can see suffering when it is is occurring in my own pocket and around me at shopping venues. Prices at the pump and cost of food. A freakin avocado cost 5$ a pound???? that is trash fruit from cali...i mean it literally litters the streets.... amazing.
anywho...have fun at work ya'll
I think that we've already established in this thread the perspective regarding the size of BP's ass (or the possible lack thereof) .
I'm not going to sugar coat it either!
In a thread that's not clearly marked "On-Topic" by the OP = Original Poster of this thread, you don't get to decide which points, opinions, or perspectives you don't want to entertain*.
*unless you're willing to ignore them and refrain from responding to them.
Prove it.
So far the only discussion that you seem to want to have is with anyone that agrees with you. I don't call that a discussion, I call that an echo chamber. Or as we say here in Texas "preachin' to the choir."
That's something else that you can prove!
I'm glad to see your public admission of this.
Now prove that by not engaging him, or mentioning him anywhere on the whole of JUB!
That's your perspective.
Here's another perspective!
Some members talk so many circles around their own argument, that after awhile it appears that they're arguing with themselves.
I'm just saying.
~
Now back to Chance1's post:
And JayHawk's post:
Economists!
The only profession less reliable than weathermen.
I read a quote somewhere that said you could lock three economists in a room, and they'd arrive at seven different opinions/conclusions.
Economists, with all of their charts, statistics, bean counting, and economic forecasts truly mean diddly squat to Average Americans.
Average Americans = Boots on the Ground!
We see everyday from our friends, our family, or neighbors, our coworkers, casual acquaintances, and strangers the toll that this economy is having on the rest of us.
If we travel like Chance1 does, I'd say that he gets a pretty good cross section of perspectives from people outside of his immediate circle, and I for one would be interested in hearing what they've shared with him.
JayHawk is Military, and he's just now readjusting from being "out of country" for awhile, so his take is a perspective that I'm interested in hearing.
He hasn't been like that frog that's been sitting in the water that's beginning to boil, but rather has been tossed into the pot.
And GiancarloC you may ask (or not), "Gee centexfarmer, how do you know all of that?"
And I would answer, BECAUSE I DON'T GO AROUND EXCLUDING OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS, just because my view of the world might be a little different from theirs.
So called "economists" have been known to "talk us into a down-turn," and now it just sounds like they're trying to talk us out of one.
How's that for bringing things back to topic?
So BP how was the Cape, didja get any?
BostonPirate
Ijubbinatti
I had fun, Centex. I got laid several times before my husband showed up. He is so unpredictable.
And finally someone who knows what the noassital syndrome is... HA.
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Just a little side note here....
I like the conservative guys more or less as much as the progressive ones..... That doesn't mean I can't try to rip their ideas that I don't like to shreds. As you can see in this thread, I like joking around ALOT and it takes a while to get used to my abrasive sense of humor.
I do make on topic threads when I want to talk about something serious and I think it needs close moderation, about one in five perhaps? otherwise, I invite and dispense a certain amount of jabs pokes and levity, as we can see in this thread.
The Hot topics snobs don't get why we think this is fun, but I find ANYONE who is engaged and informed in their nations workings admirable, even if I also think they are completely wrong. I try to read each post imagining that the poster is smiling as they write. It brings a certain relaxed quality that allows people to feel free to express themselves and follow tangents in discussions.
I like Giancarlos ideas, and in time as I get to know him, I'm sure I will like him personally as well. I don't always like JB's ideas, but he's honest in his beliefs, an educator, and educated, and he's a good man and kinda cute too.
A bit of a ramble there I know.
I have a hard time understanding chances posts, and to be honest, he often forgets that his opinion is just an opinion. In politics, thats all that really matters... perceptions, so he is not off base by expressing them.
Basing an economic opinion on observations on a road trip does not really further his cause. You can drive by a horse farm and look at it from a distance and still have no idea how it functions. If you want to simplify it and say they breed horses and from the looks of it, they do well, but it really doesn't mean the person has a clue as to how breeding and training horses is acheived on a day to day basis. I would love to hear what economists he has read up on, what school of economic thought he is part of and I would LOVE it if he would write that in a way that I can read clearly and answer thoughtfully.
I hope he can get to the point of sitting at a computer instead of an Iphone, and write out sentences and paragraphs on some substantive ideas that I could debate him on. Its an open invitation.
Jayhawk is a good man. Sometimes I agree with him and sometimes I don't.
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Now I can get to his point that centex mentioned and tie it into some of the data that I posted from articles and Jayhawks observations.
There is a big problem in the USA right now that exceeds unemployment. That problem is underemployment and its effects on the job market.
Couples that used to have one primary earner now earn less but have more bills. That means that the secondary household member needs to get work, and THAT is usually a mickeyD's kind of experience. This explains the phenomenon that is going on right now.
Americans need MORE jobs because they are earning less, even as corporations are posting record profits. That 35 percent of americans who do not work for one reason or another, are slowly returning to the job market, and it is stressing the system.
Lastly and in general on wallstreets spin. This time its balls to the wall. No more too big to fail. You either do well or you go away.
As these corporations have garnered huge untaxed profits and siphoned money out of the economy they have not in anyway affected the job market. I am not moved to believe that a reversal of the market for a week or a month, will cause them to start laying off people. They already did that two years ago, and they still haven't hired anyone back.
Once they figured out a way to run their business with less people, they decided to keep it that way.
We need new job sector development and we need the corporations to pay their taxes so that the poor people have money to buy stuff and give it back to the corporations. The Bush bailout of the banks was free money for anyone rich enough to own a mega bank. It helped the little guys who were holding devalued real estate in NO WAY. If the Gov't had used that same amount of money to pay back mortgages for people, the banks would still have gotten the cash for that, but the PEOPLE OF THE USA would have gotten something for it as well.
The logjam is not going to break in the job market until the working class that lives paycheck to paycheck and spends every dime weekly gets more to spend weekly.
The truth is no one really has a realistic or functional idea on how to accomplish that goal, so the idealogues of both sides rule the discussion.
Raise taxes on the wealthy, close all corporate loopholes, lower the corporate tax rate for small businesses struggling to survive, and end the expensive wars, is my approach to the fix. It is my opinion that this is the way out.
Most of all remember that there is NO depression looming, and we are on the verge of emerging from the recession. We have hit the summer doldrums and the conservatives are trying to score political points on that reality through the use of the politics of fear.
That above all else now defines the GOP. They need the americans to live in fear to stay in power. That also kills consumer confidence and fucks the economy.
And finally someone who knows what the noassital syndrome is... HA.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Just a little side note here....
I like the conservative guys more or less as much as the progressive ones..... That doesn't mean I can't try to rip their ideas that I don't like to shreds.
As you can see in this thread, I like joking around ALOT and it takes a while to get used to my abrasive sense of humor.I do make on topic threads when I want to talk about something serious and I think it needs close moderation, about one in five perhaps? otherwise, I invite and dispense a certain amount of jabs pokes and levity, as we can see in this thread.
The Hot topics snobs don't get why we think this is fun, but I find ANYONE who is engaged and informed in their nations workings admirable, even if I also think they are completely wrong. I try to read each post imagining that the poster is smiling as they write. It brings a certain relaxed quality that allows people to feel free to express themselves and follow tangents in discussions.
I like Giancarlos ideas, and in time as I get to know him, I'm sure I will like him personally as well. I don't always like JB's ideas, but he's honest in his beliefs, an educator, and educated, and he's a good man and kinda cute too.
A bit of a ramble there I know.
I have a hard time understanding chances posts, and to be honest, he often forgets that his opinion is just an opinion. In politics, thats all that really matters... perceptions, so he is not off base by expressing them.
Basing an economic opinion on observations on a road trip does not really further his cause. You can drive by a horse farm and look at it from a distance and still have no idea how it functions. If you want to simplify it and say they breed horses and from the looks of it, they do well, but it really doesn't mean the person has a clue as to how breeding and training horses is acheived on a day to day basis. I would love to hear what economists he has read up on, what school of economic thought he is part of and I would LOVE it if he would write that in a way that I can read clearly and answer thoughtfully.
I hope he can get to the point of sitting at a computer instead of an Iphone, and write out sentences and paragraphs on some substantive ideas that I could debate him on. Its an open invitation.
Jayhawk is a good man. Sometimes I agree with him and sometimes I don't.
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Now I can get to his point that centex mentioned and tie it into some of the data that I posted from articles and Jayhawks observations.
There is a big problem in the USA right now that exceeds unemployment. That problem is underemployment and its effects on the job market.
Couples that used to have one primary earner now earn less but have more bills. That means that the secondary household member needs to get work, and THAT is usually a mickeyD's kind of experience. This explains the phenomenon that is going on right now.
Americans need MORE jobs because they are earning less, even as corporations are posting record profits. That 35 percent of americans who do not work for one reason or another, are slowly returning to the job market, and it is stressing the system.
Lastly and in general on wallstreets spin. This time its balls to the wall. No more too big to fail. You either do well or you go away.
As these corporations have garnered huge untaxed profits and siphoned money out of the economy they have not in anyway affected the job market. I am not moved to believe that a reversal of the market for a week or a month, will cause them to start laying off people. They already did that two years ago, and they still haven't hired anyone back.
Once they figured out a way to run their business with less people, they decided to keep it that way.
We need new job sector development and we need the corporations to pay their taxes so that the poor people have money to buy stuff and give it back to the corporations. The Bush bailout of the banks was free money for anyone rich enough to own a mega bank. It helped the little guys who were holding devalued real estate in NO WAY. If the Gov't had used that same amount of money to pay back mortgages for people, the banks would still have gotten the cash for that, but the PEOPLE OF THE USA would have gotten something for it as well.
The logjam is not going to break in the job market until the working class that lives paycheck to paycheck and spends every dime weekly gets more to spend weekly.
The truth is no one really has a realistic or functional idea on how to accomplish that goal, so the idealogues of both sides rule the discussion.
Raise taxes on the wealthy, close all corporate loopholes, lower the corporate tax rate for small businesses struggling to survive, and end the expensive wars, is my approach to the fix. It is my opinion that this is the way out.
Most of all remember that there is NO depression looming, and we are on the verge of emerging from the recession. We have hit the summer doldrums and the conservatives are trying to score political points on that reality through the use of the politics of fear.
That above all else now defines the GOP. They need the americans to live in fear to stay in power. That also kills consumer confidence and fucks the economy.
Then perhaps, in this thread, you're being TOO serious.
Just a thought.
There are various opinions, perspectives, and ideas shared by most everyone who posts in this forum.
Those of us who share, I mean really share...something beyond "talking points" or one's level of education or expertise on a subject, but share something that each of us have in common beyond our attraction to the same "sex" builds common ground.
I'd rather that we find those things that unite us rather than divide us, so when someone offers a "personal perspective" as you put it, I welcome that, and I'm insulted that you clearly don't.
That you're not posting just to read your head rattle, or that you can "read" someone that doesn't share the same opinion as you.
Me neither, and I hope that I'm not doing so right now!
Hmmm....Fascinating.
The way that I personally viewed your posts in this thread thus far; is that you were attempting to engage others who shared your opinion, by belittling those members who are perceived to not represent the perceived majority of opinion here.
I'm just saying.
I shall not be shamed Sir.
Shame is for people who have guilt for something that someone or something else has told them to be shameful of.
I accept complete and sole responsibility for my comments, my perspective, and my post here thank you!
You have no idea!
Thank you!
You too!
So BP that whole noassital syndrome that you mentioned.....do you think that most Economists suffer from that?
BostonPirate
Ijubbinatti
Ha
right now in THIS political climate? we are lucky to have pants much less asses.
Economists are only popular when the economy is doing well.
Then we are voodoo priests and snake charmers when it goes to shit.
right now in THIS political climate? we are lucky to have pants much less asses.
Economists are only popular when the economy is doing well.
Then we are voodoo priests and snake charmers when it goes to shit.
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Um, Centex has made one post in this thread. It was "to" three or four different people at once. It was sometimes humorous, sometimes pointed. I can't see where it was making anything "into a huge mess and big deal", or why you should feel insulted, or where it's "shameful", or why you should feel disgusted.
You're looking more and more like CE & P's resident drama queen, feeling insulted when there's no insult, wailing about being attacked when there's been no attack, getting childish and putting people on ignore because they dare to challenge you.
There's a statement at the top of the forum, worth reading:
Strong opinions expressed here. Not for the faint of heart.
Let us meditate on this truth.
QFT!
Much like weathermen/meterologists when they say it's going to be a nice weekend, with no chance of rain, and it turns out to be true!
HEY!
Don't be lumping "snake charmers" up there with voodoo preists!
I don't know what voodoo that you do, but I'm willing to meet up in New Orleans to find out.
You nasty bastard!
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What "lie"? That in a thread not marked "ON TOPIC" you have to expect wild wandering? that your point of view is one of many?
If something's false, call it and give a cite to the contrary, don't just whine. And when something isn't about you, don't pretend it is.
You're quite quick to get emotional and to see things as directed at you personally, when they aren't at all. Those are two big marks of a drama queen.
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I just re-read this entire page three times. I can't find a single place where you stated he was wrong and gave reasons to back up your charge. I do see a bunch of emotional stuff from you.
What was he wrong about? Where did you counter it????
We've identified that type of response here before have we not?
Within voting blocks, political stances, "swift-boaters," "tea baggers," Democrats having to calm the dependant and elderly.
YES!
I honestly never heard of the word until I read it in this forum:
Wait for it!
Now I could get "emotive" for being called a "liar" but I won't because he's incapable of proving WHERE I lied and when.
He did state previously though:
GiancarloC said:
THEN STOP DOING THAT!
Walk your talk!
This isn't the first time that this type of behavior has been brought to your attention.
BostonPirate
Ijubbinatti
we all lose our temper once in a while
its all good
just remember that we are all friends here, even when we disagree. You have great ideas, you really do.
I used to overpersonalize things too much all the time when I first started posting and there are times when I still do. someone has to nudge me and let me know I am doing it.
There are alot of good people here and you are going to find friends in places you least expect them to be
we all lose our temper once in a while
its all good
just remember that we are all friends here, even when we disagree. You have great ideas, you really do.
I used to overpersonalize things too much all the time when I first started posting and there are times when I still do. someone has to nudge me and let me know I am doing it.
There are alot of good people here and you are going to find friends in places you least expect them to be
Like roller coasters, politics is not for the faint at heart. The moment you start taking it too seriously/personally is when your credibility will falter [insert scandalous politician here]. There are some arguments in CE&P I will deliberately avoid because it is like playing tennis against a brick wall. With that, I will only really respond to topics that I have knowledge in. There is nothing more stupid than sticking your head into a topic you know little or nothing about; especially in CE&P where they will chew on you and spit you out like a piece of gum. Most of us try to keep it civil here and not throw dung via personal attacks. I would rather attack someone's weak argument than their person unless the two are related.
